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Why was I circumsized?!?!

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<< << Is it just me? or does Epsil0n00 care a little bit too much about what my wang looks like.
epsil0n00: Its nice that you have an opinion, but its not proper to push it onto other ppl. >>

Especially people that didn't have a choice about it. Would you go around and say, "you know, you really should have been my race, it's much better"? >>



Hey, I don't give a damn what your wanker looks like, and I don't care if you like being circumcised. I believe I have stated clearly above what my intentions here are. I will even quote myself for your conveinience:


<< What I am really fighting for here is to educate people about it and hopefully make them think things through so that when they have children, or know someone who is having a baby, they will not hurt their sons. Maybe they will even pass on this knowledge to others and we can stop this cruel and highly unnecessary practice. >>


Other people's ignorance affects us all, and in this specific case it could potentially affect our future sons quite dramatically. I really appreciate that my father took the time to think this issue through prior to my birth instead of letting the doctors do what they normally do (snip snip).

READ THIS: If you are cut I think that you should be happy about your penis and be happy with what you've got. However, I think that it is the job of every male in American to be aware of this issue, especially if they are considering ever having a child.

Does that clear things up?
 
I am sure that most of you use soap and will probably continue to do so... however, you might want to think about stopping. I was worried at first that I wouldn't be as clean as when I used soap, but in the years since then I have noticed no difference (exept the lack of irritation from strong soaps). Think about it is all I am saying--maybe ask your doctor what they think

I have really sensitive skin anyway, so I have to wash with really gentle body wash. That works well on the genitals as it is nice and gentle 🙂
 


<< How do you tell if you're circumsized or not? 😱 >>




if you got chopped your penis looks like a mushshroom...sorta.
 
This is the part that really steams my clams:



<< This could also be said as the following: "I'd choose to be circumsized so that I would lose the ability to feel all of the pleasure that my foreskin and frenulum provide me, as well as cause the head of my penis to become dry and calused, thus making it so that I can't orgasm as easily." Well, guess what, it might not be an issue now... but guess who will have difficulty reaching orgasm once they get old? Yep, you, those who are cut will have a more difficult time reaching orgasm (in general) when you get older. Now how do you feel? Happy to be mutilated? Thought not. >>

 
It is not true that circ'ed men have bigger orgasms. Ask the question over there and they will even give you measurements of the amount of liquid shot out, as proof.


Bigger orgasm DOES NOT equal more "fluid". I guess if you'd ever had one you'd know its also about physical and mental pleasure, not just the stuff that comes out.
 


<< Is it just me? or does Epsil0n00 care a little bit too much about what my wang looks like.

epsil0n00: Its nice that you have an opinion, but its not proper to push it onto other ppl. >>





You are correct, but its obvious why he do so. And why pretty much any man will defend what they think: Because usually their views mirror if they are uncircumsized or not. He's defending his penis as natural, and others, along with me, will defend our circumcision. You dont slam your penis or else the bad luck will come back to haunt you when your 60. 😉
 


<< just watch some european pron😉 i'm surprised you guys havn't seen more pron🙂


that or baise moi
:Qthats one freaky film. >>




the only foreign port I watch is asian, and in the video's I like (😉) they often blur/censor the penis. 🙂
 


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<< just watch some european pron😉 i'm surprised you guys havn't seen more pron🙂


that or baise moi
:Qthats one freaky film. >>




the only foreign port I watch is asian, and in the video's I like (😉) they often blur/censor the penis. 🙂 >>



baise moi is a french film that came out last year. it breaks the barrier between porn and film. lets just say they go all the way.
 
i think they played that on our movie channel at school. I turned it to channel 11 and some girl was giving head and I was like that's new.
 


<< There is a trend now to avoid circumcision since it is felt that it is unneccessary and provides unneccessary trama to the child (I don't really buy this argument since I don't remember being circumsized at all and therefore it must not have been that tramatic an experience for me). >>

The "trend" is limited to a few disproportionately noisy and obnoxious fruits who give the appearance of being much larger group than they really are. Clinically and statistically, there is NO measurable decrease in the number of circumcisions performed in the U.S. thus there couldn't possibly be a "trend" to not circumcise.

<< here are some examples of methods used to perform circumcisions and what can go wrong with a circumcision. NOTE* The links below contains pictures of penises and surgery. >>

This is no different than an anti-abortion organization presenting the most grotesque and disturbing pictures they can find of 'abortion' and portraying them as 'routine'.

<< There is a book about this topic called "Sex as nature intended it." I haven't read it yet, but plan to soon. Here is some info about it that I copied from the above linked forum...Great new book reveals the benefits of being INTACT. www.SexAsNatureIntendedIt.com...Afterword by George C. Denniston, MD, President of D.O.C. (Doctors Opposing Circumcision). >>

For goodness sakes, at least make an effort to APPEAR as if you're giving unbiased information from NEUTRAL sources on the issue. Not only are your "Doctors Opposing Circumcision" about as neutral and unbiased on circumcision as Handgun Control Incorporated is on gun control, but your 'Puritanism' explanation of why circumcision became an accepted practice in the U.S. is a laughable crock. You sure claim to have done a lot of "research", yet you cannot provide a single link to anything but ACTIVIST or ADVOCACY groups? lol! That's not 'research'.

Hey, two can play your game...I've done a lot of research on the merits of legalizing marijuana, too! If you want to know "the truth" about marijuana and educate yourself, go to the following "unbiased" sources and do your "research":

The Department of Justice

Drug Enforcement Agency

Federal Bureau of Investigation

These sources will give you the straight dope (pun intended) on the issue of medical marijuana or legalization.
 
what?

I had no idea that almost all males in the US had had their foreskin cut off

are all people over there jews or why do you cut it off?

noone I know here has been cut and that's the same for the rest of Sweden and rest of europe too I think

just a question, how do you guys masturbate? I can't imagine masturbating without a foreskin?? Do you have to use oils or lubricants? I cant imagine pulling my hand up and down the penis /penis head, that must be extremely dry?

and for the cleanliness thing.. don't you people ever shower? Here at least most people shower every/every other day and part of showering is cleaning your penis. And if you are not around showers for weeks, such as being in the army for awhile you clean yourself anyway. Don't you?

Doesn't it hurt to walk around, I mean your underwear must really rub hard on your penis head? Or maybe you get used to it?

As you can see I am very uninformed but to me it sounds very weird that you would want to cut off the masturbation-tool on your body?

Answers please!
 


<< just a question, how do you guys masturbate? I can't imagine masturbating without a foreskin?? Do you have to use oils or lubricants? I cant imagine pulling my hand up and down the penis /penis head, that must be extremely dry? >>

For some reason, I don't see there being any problem between men and masturbation, regardless of the presence of foreskin. Where there's a will...

<< and for the cleanliness thing.. don't you people ever shower? Here at least most people shower every/every other day and part of showering is cleaning your penis. And if you are not around showers for weeks, such as being in the army for awhile you clean yourself anyway. Don't you? >>

Smegma, sweat, and skin oils are known to build-up under the foreskin at a greater rate than daily showering can remediate. That's the stuff which, as you say, provides your lubrication for masturbation. So, unless you're cleaning your penis three times a day, you cannot possibly be as hygienic as a circumcized male who showers only once per day.

Uncircumcized males don't know this, obviously, because they think they're relatively clean, and a daily shower with attention to one's foreskin is usually sufficient to prevent problems or infections due to poor hygiene. But, comparatively speaking, ask any woman who has had a fair amount of experience with both. Two males, comparable hygiene practices (daily showering), one cut the other not. More times than not, a woman will admit the cut dinky is more hygienic. As uncircumsized males report, when they feel like taking matters 'into their own hands', there is always sufficient lubrication there. That's because that stuff starts to build-up again within a couple hours of showering, if not immediately after.

<< Doesn't it hurt to walk around, I mean your underwear must really rub hard on your penis head? Or maybe you get used to it? >>

Its a b-tch when your Johnson stands at attention for no apparent reason while you're wearing jeans or something, but I suspect that's not an issue that is unique to circumcized men. Its an issue of simple physics (something about mass increasing while the volume it fills remains constant or something)

<< As you can see I am very uninformed but to me it sounds very weird that you would want to cut off the masturbation-tool on your body? >>

Damn, I don't what they told you, but they don't cut people's hands off here in the states! ;-)
 
but how do you do it if it's totally dry?

I mean since there obviously is natrual lubrication of some sort when you are not cut that stays in place more or less thanks to the foreskin but since you don't have either the lubricating stuff OR anything to keep it there, it must be very dry?

what kinds of risks do you think a man poses such as infections or the likes by not removing the foreskin? It seems very unlikely to me that you'd need to be perfectly clean all the time, I mean people pee with the very same dong without cleaning your penis so the penis is not totally clean anyways. Well maybe you rub the urine off onto your underwear but how hygenic is that?

sounds odd to me
 


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<< just watch some european pron😉 i'm surprised you guys havn't seen more pron🙂


that or baise moi
:Qthats one freaky film. >>




the only foreign port I watch is asian, and in the video's I like (😉) they often blur/censor the penis. 🙂 >>



baise moi is a french film that came out last year. it breaks the barrier between porn and film. lets just say they go all the way. >>


isn't that the film with people dressed up as animals?

 
There are a lot of reasons why to get rid of the foreskin. One, is for better sex - without the foreskin the rest of the skin stays tight during an erection, also the head membrane doesn't stay moist so it develops a large thick skin, creates more friction for the lady.

Another reason is that on occasion the foreskin could develop an infection, if men weren't properly taught how to keep it cleaned out. Also, if the foreskin mesh isn't broken at some point during puberty, the tissue can actually become permanent and you end up with a disfigured penis.

This is the first I heard about the cancer for ladies, but that is now another added bonus for circumcision.

There is also a religious element to it.

There are some organizations that are against circumcisions, because they think it's unnecessary and tramautic to infants. Babies have been known to turn blue from it - they can't use a strong anesthetic because of how young they are. Also, when you cut off the foreskin it's not just skin that's coming off, there are also glands within the membrane that let's men create their own lubrication. Also, without the ability for the loose skin to move back and forth, women that don't create enough of their own lubration get kind of roughed up. When the penis isn't circumsized, the head stayed smaller and softer, during excitement get's lubricated by the foreskin glands, and makes for easy penetration.

Circumcision = Benefits for both partners, also spiritual in nature (if you're a believer in God)

Non-circumcision = Small benefit for virgin girl

I almost forgot - I read an article from one of those pro-noncircumsized groups, where there is a stretching technique that can get men without foreskins to recreate their foreskins. One of their arguments is that there is a degree of sensitivity that gets lost to those that are circumsized, but when you have your foreskin sex feels much better. I don't know how anyone can confirm that unless you take someone uncircumsized in their 30's, and get them circumsized and document what changes they've noticed.
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It is not true that circ'ed men have bigger orgasms. Ask the question over there and they will even give you measurements of the amount of liquid shot out, as proof.
>>



Um... I think you are confusing "ejaculation" for "orgasm". I was giving you a lot of credit for your posts until I read this. 😱
 
interesting there is a artical on yahoo about this today

Foreskins, Cervix Cancer Linked
Wed Apr 10, 5:02 PM ET
By JANET McCONNAUGHEY, Associated Press Writer

Women whose sex partners are circumcised may be less likely to get cervical cancer, a study suggests.


Cervical cancer is caused by the same virus responsible for genital warts.

The study in Thursday's New England Journal of Medicine (news - web sites) found that men with intact foreskins were three times more likely than circumcised men to be infected with the human papillomavirus. That, in turn, may increase the risk of passing the virus on to their sex partners.

The theory is that the skin in the inner lining of the foreskin is especially vulnerable to the virus.

"It will certainly fuel the ongoing debate about the merits of circumcision," said Dr. Michael Thun, an American Cancer Society (news - web sites) epidemiologist not involved in the study. He said it raises the question of whether circumcision can reduce the spread of AIDS (news - web sites), too.

Studies dating back to at least 1988 have suggested that circumcision offers some protection against AIDS, but the research does not prove it and more definitive studies are under way.

The cervical cancer study, conducted by researchers in Spain and four other countries, looked at nearly 3,800 women, half of whom had cervical cancer, half of whom were cancer-free.

There was only a slight overall difference between the two groups in how many had circumcised partners and how many had uncircumcised ones.

But the researchers found a strong difference in the risk of cervical cancer when it came to women whose partners were especially active sexually. Women whose high-risk partners were not circumcised were five times more likely to get cancer than those whose partners were circumcised.

High-risk men were defined as those who had at least six sex partners and started having sex before 17.

One of the researchers, Dr. Xavier Castellsague of the Catalan Institute for Oncology in Barcelona, Spain, said it would not make sense to promote circumcision as a way to control cervical cancer in the United States, where Pap smears usually detect it at a treatable stage.

However, he said circumcision could make a big difference in developing countries where there is no regular screening for cervical cancer.

"If it is shown in trials to be effective, it could be a relatively simple and safe procedure to prevent these life-threatening infections," he said.

Ronald Goldman, executive director of the Circumcision Resource Center, an anti-circumcision group, said the study, supported by the International Agency for Research on Cancer in France, is unreliable because it pools data from seven studies in five countries.

He added: "Cutting off a normal healthy functioning body part to prevent an unlikely disease or infection would be like pulling healthy teeth to prevent tooth decay."

Dr. Stephen Moses of the medical microbiology department at the University of Manitoba said he and other researchers have begun recruiting patients in AIDS-ravaged Kenya for a two-year study of whether circumcision can reduce the spread of the virus.

 
Smegma, sweat, and skin oils are known to build-up under the foreskin at a greater rate than daily showering can remediate. That's the stuff which, as you say, provides your lubrication for masturbation. So, unless you're cleaning your penis three times a day, you cannot possibly be as hygienic as a circumcized male who showers only once per day.

Not if your asian. We're clean all day long. 🙂

Anyways having uncut penis does have advantages. For instance when having sex you can just pull the skin over the head before inserting making it much pleasureable for your partner and also masterbation. 🙂

I am uncut but now Asian's started to cut theirs too.
 


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<< so if ur uncut and your cleaning, you only pull the foreskin back to where it would be if you were circumsized, right? I'm kinda scared that the foreskin will get stuck if I pull it any further than that. >>


Yep. Go ahead and pull it back... be gentle, you'll know when you can't pull it back any further. Just pull it back to the point where you can see all of the skin; that will do.

As for the line... yep, its the one going all the way along the underside (if you're looking down at your penis) of the penis. I am trying to figure out right now what it is called. >>



AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

This is the problem, that poor guy is just now learning how to cleaning his uncircumsized penis on ATOT!!!! Not about hygiene? yea right
 


<< just watch some european pron😉 i'm surprised you guys havn't seen more pron🙂


that or baise moi
:Qthats one freaky film. >>



doesn't that translate to "f**k me" in french? 😀
 


<< what?

I had no idea that almost all males in the US had had their foreskin cut off

are all people over there jews or why do you cut it off?

noone I know here has been cut and that's the same for the rest of Sweden and rest of europe too I think

just a question, how do you guys masturbate? I can't imagine masturbating without a foreskin?? Do you have to use oils or lubricants? I cant imagine pulling my hand up and down the penis /penis head, that must be extremely dry?

and for the cleanliness thing.. don't you people ever shower? Here at least most people shower every/every other day and part of showering is cleaning your penis. And if you are not around showers for weeks, such as being in the army for awhile you clean yourself anyway. Don't you?

Doesn't it hurt to walk around, I mean your underwear must really rub hard on your penis head? Or maybe you get used to it?

As you can see I am very uninformed but to me it sounds very weird that you would want to cut off the masturbation-tool on your body?

Answers please! >>



Okay, here are some answers:

1. Circumcision is not just for Jews, but for Catholics and Protestants as well.

2. You can use oils, lotions, spit, whaterver, it can be done dry too - as long as you're not too rough.

3. I shower every day, most people do. A lot of women don't "touch themselves down there" in the shower, I can only guess that this is the case for uncircumsized men - maybe they touch their outer skin but maybe they don't like to pull their foreskin back to clean it?


If you look at just about every dildo replica of a penis, that is what a circumsized penis looks like. Of course I guess it would be impossible to make a dildo with a moving foreskin :Q
 
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