povertystruck
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Originally posted by: etech
Originally posted by: povertystruck
Because the super power of the world is Israel's minion, dog, shield, etc. The real question is, why is this so?
Are you really that stupid. Israel does not control the US. Some Arabs like to portray it as such because the US does not like terrorists, religious fantatics and countries that sided with the communists during the Cold War.
As it is, the Arabs need to get their act together if the want the same respect from the US that Israel has.
Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
Originally posted by: etech
Originally posted by: povertystruck
Because the super power of the world is Israel's minion, dog, shield, etc. The real question is, why is this so?
Are you really that stupid. Israel does not control the US. Some Arabs like to portray it as such because the US does not like terrorists, religious fantatics and countries that sided with the communists during the Cold War.
As it is, the Arabs need to get their act together if the want the same respect from the US that Israel has.
it blows some peoples little minds that others can disagree with them. thus the conspiracy theories. its pathetic really.
maybe its true that antisemitism will never die
Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
considering chomsky defends holocaust deniers. i think he more or less fits the definition(contemporary definiton-don't even try to split hairs).
and when you make unsupported claims about world wide conspiracies in which a minority controls the world... yes, that fits the definition. its called scape goating too.. and it led to the pogroms, holocaust, and general oppression/genocidal killing in the middle east.
http://www-tech.mit.edu/V122/N25/col25dersh.25c.htmlMy next encounter with Chomsky revolved around his writing an introduction to a book by an anti-Semite named Robert Faurisson who denied that the Holocaust took place, that Hitler?s gas chambers existed, that the diary of Anne Frank was authentic, and that there were death camps in Nazi occupied Europe. He claimed that the ?massive lie? about genocide was a deliberate concoction initiated by ?American Zionists? ?and that ?the Jews? were responsible for World War II. Chomsky described these and other conclusions as ?findings? and said that they were based on ?extensive historical research.? He also wrote that ?I see no anti-Semitic implication in the denial of the existence in gas chambers or even in the denial of the Holocaust.? He said he saw ?no hint of anti-Semitic implications in Faurisson?s work,? including his claim that ?the Jews? were responsible for World War II. He wrote an introduction to one of Faurisson?s book which was used to market his anti-Semitic lies.
I see no anti-Semitic implication in the denial of the existence in gas chambers or even in the denial of the Holocaust.? He said he saw ?no hint of anti-Semitic implications in Faurisson?s work,? including his claim that ?the Jews? were responsible for World War II.
Originally posted by: Zebo
I see no anti-Semitic implication in the denial of the existence in gas chambers or even in the denial of the Holocaust.? He said he saw ?no hint of anti-Semitic implications in Faurisson?s work,? including his claim that ?the Jews? were responsible for World War II.
He was not defending a holocaust denier. Sounds like what he said. I would have to read the book in reference though to be certain. Your author is obviously very anti-Chomsky and could be fabricating lies to discredit him. I'l have to go with things I've read from Chomsky which is a fair IMO solution for the ME not an anti-semite..
Originally posted by: povertystruck
I like the theory that the jews(not just Israel) have a very strong influence over the U.S. It makes sense to me. Hollywood is 'obviously' run by them. I dont mind that, just an observation. Im not even american, im canadian, and I see evidence of a strong jewish media presence. My local newspaper's editor is jewish at least one of the two national newspapers is run by a jew. The largest newspaper for Toronto(biggest city in Canada) is run by a jew etc.etc.
sure someone on these forums knows the name 'Wolfowitz' he is just below Rumsfeld. Wolfowitz came up with the policy of a pre-emptive strike. Wofowitz is obviously a jewish name, Rumsfeld(maybe), Colin Powell (definitely), Arie Fliecher(definitely).
S. sells alot of military hardware to Israel, most likely a low low prices. Low prices? Well it only makes sense due to the fact that the U.S. government pays Israel 2-3 billion dollars every year.
I mentioned about Wolfowitz, his policy influenced the decision to go to war with Iraq. So?
Well part of Iraq is the target for future zionist expansion. Wait a minute what's a zionist? A jewish extremist with lots of ambition and big goals( I wish I had a better definition but I don't, I sure someone else does), they are trouble makers, they start illegal settlements.
Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
arab news have also said the jews mix palestinians childrens blood into their sabbath? bread arab news doesn't have much credibility.
the fact is, the israeli government has no intentions of going into iraq.
official palestinian charter denies existence of israel. palestinian groups with power like hamas and islamic jihad officially want genocide.
and in the end, only one side has been implimenting mass murder evil as you think the zionists might be.
Originally posted by: BOK
When even some people on this forum (from the USA) are brainwashed into thinking the Palestinian campaign of terror is justified, can you blame the Palestinian children for being so easily brainwashed? Sheesh!
You pro-Palestinian people need to brush up on some facts & history BEFORE contributing your garbage in this thread.
Thanks for all the facts...Boy, I'm convinced.
Originally posted by: BOK
Thanks for all the facts...Boy, I'm convinced.
I wasn't offering facts. I was simply stating that you (and your kind) don't have the facts. I do. Why don't you go pick up some books and you will too.
Originally posted by: BOK
Thanks for all the facts...Boy, I'm convinced.
I wasn't offering facts. I was simply stating that you (and your kind) don't have the facts. I do. Why don't you go pick up some books and you will too.
Originally posted by: shuan24
I dont know much about the conflict, but here are my 2 cents:
First, I can clearly see why US is friends with Israel. They are democratic, they share somewhat the same ideals as we, and they are consistently terrorized. I'll admit, I never knew how much Jew influence there is in the states, but I give sympathy to anybody who gets terrorized. (Or maybe, the Jew media has us believing that they're being terrorized....who knows? ) Then again, maybe the Jew media has us believe that a man walked on the moon.
I cant really blame the US for aiding Israel so. We aided ol' Bin Laden himself in the eighties, that was a mistake. The point is, we aid ANY country that we sympathize too. We've probably (too lazy to look up) aided every single country in the world by now.
Like I said in another thread, I call it as I see it, and if it happened to the US, then Palestine would be history, i.e. Afghanistan. IMHO, if Israel declares war on Palestine, then I'll have to sympathize with Israel, NOT because I'm Jew (which I'm not) but because we, as Americans, can not be hypocritical when it comes to our actions and polices towards terrorism when compared to another country.
If Israel did Palestine wrong (which I'm sure they did somehow), then Palestinians need to resolve it through peaceful measures, or face the consequences of violence. The US does not OWN the world or U.N. (although it does have a major part in it).