why there are so many suicide bombers

[etech]

Originally posted by: hagbard
Ghandi? No. What is needed is a US political system that isn't so much under the control of Israeli interests. Cut off Israel's supply of US cash, hang the neocons (seriously), and the problem will end.

The Arabs have been attacking Israel since 1948. Do you really mean that the so called "neo-cons" have been in control of the US since then.

Your hate is showing.

 

[hagbard]

Originally posted by: etech

Originally posted by: hagbard
Ghandi? No. What is needed is a US political system that isn't so much under the control of Israeli interests. Cut off Israel's supply of US cash, hang the neocons (seriously), and the problem will end.

The Arabs have been attacking Israel since 1948. Do you really mean that the so called "neo-cons" have been in control of the US since then.

Guess you'd like it if they just took in the back it like the American Indians did?

Your hate is showing.

Never tried to hide it.

 

[etech]

Originally posted by: hagbard

Originally posted by: etech

Originally posted by: hagbard
Ghandi? No. What is needed is a US political system that isn't so much under the control of Israeli interests. Cut off Israel's supply of US cash, hang the neocons (seriously), and the problem will end.

The Arabs have been attacking Israel since 1948. Do you really mean that the so called "neo-cons" have been in control of the US since then.

Guess you'd like it if they just took in the back it like the American Indians did?

Your hate is showing.

Never tried to hide it.

Hagbard, that was a nice try on your part to divert the discussion.

The question which you ignored is, "The Arabs have been attacking Israel since 1948. Do you really mean that the so called "neo-cons" have been in control of the US since then. "

You've been caught in your lie.
I also find is quite sad that you are delighted with your hate. You have my sympathy.

 

[Aimster]

Don't play the Palestinian people. Blame the British for putting them all there.

 

[Dari]

If the palestinians don't consolidate power and choose a single leader as their only representative for peace talks, there won't be any progress. Suicide bombers are nothing more than a newer version of Voltaire's bug.

If the arabs can't decide which way they want to go, perhaps others should decide for them. Permanent occupation may be their final choice.

 

[hagbard]

Originally posted by: etech

Originally posted by: hagbard

Originally posted by: etech

Originally posted by: hagbard
Ghandi? No. What is needed is a US political system that isn't so much under the control of Israeli interests. Cut off Israel's supply of US cash, hang the neocons (seriously), and the problem will end.

The Arabs have been attacking Israel since 1948. Do you really mean that the so called "neo-cons" have been in control of the US since then.

Guess you'd like it if they just took in the back it like the American Indians did?

Your hate is showing.

Never tried to hide it.

Hagbard, that was a nice try on your part to divert the discussion.

The question which you ignored is, "The Arabs have been attacking Israel since 1948. Do you really mean that the so called "neo-cons" have been in control of the US since then. "

No, but people with the same attitude have...Americans.

You've been caught in your lie.

I'll leave the lying to the experts such as yourself.

I also find is quite sad that you are delighted with your hate. You have my sympathy.

I hate "evil doers". The US is number #1 evil doer.

 

[Czar]

Originally posted by: Dari
If the palestinians don't consolidate power and choose a single leader as their only representative for peace talks, there won't be any progress. Suicide bombers are nothing more than a newer version of Voltaire's bug.

If the arabs can't decide which way they want to go, perhaps others should decide for them. Permanent occupation may be their final choice.

man you realy love China dont you

 

[magomago]

Originally posted by: CaptnKirk
Arab Culture

Being a Jew, Mr. Roddenberry knew first hand what it was like to be persecuted by such a filthy, backward race of warmongers

Star Trek even accurately depicts the Arab language as something that sounds more like a baboon trying to hack up a ball of phlegm than it does someone trying to communicate using words

No offense, but if you beleive and actively read stuff like that you are the one that might have a problem...

I'm literally looking around the site hoping this is some lame spoof or something like that...but to actually beleive crap like that - and crap that isn't even based on facts...it goes to talk about how "they don't speak civilized"! GOOD LORD what kind of racist propaganda are you reading? To even post a link like that takes guts on a board like this where everyone atleast has some kinda of clue...


I'm personally STILL not convinced that this is real....someone say its a parody because for some reason I just can't shake that outta my head

 

[Czar]

magomago,
check out the link

 

[magomago]

I'll take it it isn't real but beyond the fact everything is ridiculous (stone your children? WTF?) I'll hope that some Anti-Christian made it or something

 

[Czar]

landoverbabtist is a religous satire site, a very good one that that

 

[CaptnKirk]

Umm, Yeah

 

[0roo0roo]

Originally posted by: kaizersose

Originally posted by: mrCide

Originally posted by: kaizersose

Originally posted by: Drift3r

Originally posted by: kaizersose

Originally posted by: Drift3r

Originally posted by: kaizersose
how many parents would allow, much less encourage their five year old to handle an automatic weapon?

http://www.littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/pal-child-abuse/[/q



What do guns have to do with idealogy ? If he had a knife in his hand would you be making the same statement ?

yeah i would. the fact is that these children are being brought up to think that killing jews is a good thing. i dont care what kind of weapon a five year old is holding--palestinian children are never given a chance to develope rational thoughts about the situation. how can you expect to negotiate with someone that has been trained to kill you there entire life?

Thats not the answer to my question. You make it seem as if guns are the problem when in fact it's human actions that are causing problems on BOTH sides.

i made that point very clear in my last post. the pictures in the slidewhow are a symbol of the idealogy that corrupts palestinian children. any reasonable parent that was truly looking our for the well being of their children would never allow a child to handle weapons like that, much less encourage it. these parents express joy at their children going off to kill themselves and take as many innocent jews with them as they can.

while israel is not blameless in this conflict, you do not see violence being taught to children in the same way. parents care for the lives of their children and try to protect them from danger rather than throwing them into it.

have you ever heard what an israeli settler (on palestinian land) has to say about palestinians? Hell, have you seen what israelies say about their israeli-arab neighbors? think twice my friend. don't let yourself think that israelies are any better than palestinians

the extremist settlers are violent, but there are critical differences between them and palestinians.
1. extremists are the minority is israel (2/3 of palestinians think suicide bombs are acceptable)
2. extremist israelis rarely act on their beliefs
3. when they do act out, they are quickly arrested/disarmed by the israeli government
4. when was the last time an israeli settler actually bombed a palestinian bus/market/restaurant/blatantly civiliam target?

oh no! rational arguement:Q... must be horrifying to the palestinian fanboys.

palestinians have always been on the losing side. ww1, ww2 they sided against the allies. the palestinian mufti's top officials had talks with hitler on the extermination of jews and toured concentration camps. they planned to follow suit in the same after they defeated the jews. they never accepted the notion of an israeli state, which is why they still fight on. which is why arafat turned down the best offer ever given, because he like the palestinian terror groups believe they should settle for nothing less then all the land. this is why they are in the hole they are today. a nazi like indoctrinated hatred pervades arab lands.

the bombers aren't some sad sacks, ussually educated and have families. you might as well why cults work. or hate groups. just look at the 9/11 suicide plane bombers. many college educated and had lives that many far poorer people would have been happy to have. it wasn't out of a real desperation of any kind that led them to kill american civilians. indoctrination and hatred are key. justifying their behavior is morally abhorent and simpy ignorant.

and anyways why should the palestinians be negotiated with like equals? they were losers in war countless times. as the losers, you accept terms dictated to you. imagine if we had treated germany as equals in surrender makes war deterence almost pointless as it makes it so theres nothing to lose

 

[burnedout]

the bombers aren't some sad sacks, usually educated and have families

An "academic cleric" was behind yesterday's attack.

Link

 

[Tom]

Originally posted by: hagbard
Ghandi? No. What is needed is a US political system that isn't so much under the control of Israeli interests. Cut off Israel's supply of US cash, hang the neocons (seriously), and the problem will end.

Reason we support Israel is our interests and their interests are the same in most respects. We also support many Muslim and Arab nations and would do even more, but not as long as the ones who have as a goal destroying Israel, the United States, Western civilization, etc., have defacto control.

 

[0roo0roo]

I hate "evil doers". The US is number #1 evil doer.

the fact that you can utter this shows how intellectually dishonest you are, or simply ignorant

 

[hagbard]

Originally posted by: Dead Parrot Sketch

Originally posted by: hagbard
Ghandi? No. What is needed is a US political system that isn't so much under the control of Israeli interests. Cut off Israel's supply of US cash, hang the neocons (seriously), and the problem will end.

Reason we support Israel is our interests and their interests are the same in most respects. We also support many Muslim and Arab nations and would do even more, but not as long as the ones who have as a goal destroying Israel, the United States, Western civilization, etc., have defacto control.

You're country is bought and paid for by Israeli interests. How long do you think any US politican would last supporting Arab or Palestinian causes over that of Israel? They own you.

 

[0roo0roo]

really? thats funny, i thought we were bought and paid for by saudi's who supply our oil for cheap as long as we keep hush hush about their transgressions.


just say it ok? you think this country is controlled by the jews you ignorant poor excuse for a human.

 

[hagbard]

Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
really? thats funny, i thought we were bought and paid for by saudi's who supply our oil for cheap as long as we keep hush hush about their transgressions.


just say it ok? you think this country is controlled by the jews you ignorant poor excuse for a human.

You're a fool who can't think for himself.

 

[oreagan]

Originally posted by: hagbard

Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
really? thats funny, i thought we were bought and paid for by saudi's who supply our oil for cheap as long as we keep hush hush about their transgressions.


just say it ok? you think this country is controlled by the jews you ignorant poor excuse for a human.

You're a fool who can't think for himself.

WOW, AMAZING comeback. I bet he's sitting there crying, thinking over his entire life right now. Cause, I mean, WOW, holy cow, you really crushed him with logic, reasoning and dynamic thinking and linguistic skills. Ouch.

 

[hagbard]

Originally posted by: oreagan

Originally posted by: hagbard

Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
really? thats funny, i thought we were bought and paid for by saudi's who supply our oil for cheap as long as we keep hush hush about their transgressions.


just say it ok? you think this country is controlled by the jews you ignorant poor excuse for a human.

You're a fool who can't think for himself.

WOW, AMAZING comeback. I bet he's sitting there crying, thinking over his entire life right now. Cause, I mean, WOW, holy cow, you really crushed him with logic, reasoning and dynamic thinking and linguistic skills. Ouch.

And who is behind this campaign against the Arabs? Where do you get most of your information from? Who controls that information? Do they have an agenda, hidden or otherwise? What are the largest lobby groups in the US? What happens to politicians who don't play along? Why does the US send billions of dollars each year to Israel, more than the entire total amount than that spend on other foreign aid? Why does the US gov't continually support the Israeli's no how outrageous their actions? And then take a look at the interplay of the right wing Israelis and the religious right in the US and see why reason has no chance of winning out in the US.

 

[povertystruck]

Because the super power of the world is Israel's minion, dog, shield, etc. The real question is, why is this so?

 

[etech]

Originally posted by: povertystruck
Because the super power of the world is Israel's minion, dog, shield, etc. The real question is, why is this so?

Are you really that stupid. Israel does not control the US. Some Arabs like to portray it as such because the US does not like terrorists, religious fantatics and countries that sided with the communists during the Cold War.

As it is, the Arabs need to get their act together if the want the same respect from the US that Israel has.

 

[hagbard]

US does not like terrorists,

They don't like the competition.

religious fantatics...

that aren't Fundamentalist Chirstian fanatics.

and countries that sided with the communists during the Cold War.

"gotta have an ememy" yankees.

As it is, the Arabs need to get their act together if the want the same respect from the US that Israel has.

or, buy your friends or to have your ememies eliminated.

 

[chemwiz]

It seems to me the Arabs hate the "Palestinians" much more than the Israelis do. When Jews are in trouble around the world, Israel offers sanctuary to them; so why don't the Arab nation's, with their vast tracts of land and billions of dollars, take in these poor, homeless people? They're more than happy to send them rewards if they'll tie bombs to their kids, how about giving them their own patch of desert away from all those evil, gun-toting Israelis?