Why the iPad is great and most other tablets out there suck

[shortylickens]

Seriously guys? Like how is everyone defining lag?

Mostly, how smooth the icons move when they drag their fingers across the screen.

Playbook is fastest, then iphone without too much crap on it, then most WP7 devices, then WebOS, then Nokias with Symbian, then Android with dual core and GPU acceleration, last is old Android phones with too much desktop crap on them.
And you know what? I can deal with a bloated Android phone. Never had a serious issue with it. I think most of the talk about superior smoothness comes from angry iphone owners desperately looking to justify their 300 dollar phone and 10 dollar apps.

Kinda like how mac owners go on and on about the 1% of the industry that uses macs while the other 99% is busy getting work done and making America great.

 

[Mopetar]

Mostly, how smooth the icons move when they drag their fingers across the screen.

Playbook is fastest, then iphone without too much crap on it, then most WP7 devices, then WebOS, then Nokias with Symbian, then Android with dual core and GPU acceleration, last is old Android phones with too much desktop crap on them.

If someone would just measure "smoothness" empirically, there'd be a lot less subjective debate. Maybe it would just shift the whining to the fairness of the test and measures, but it would at least be better than the constant anecdotal hearsay we have now.

Conceivably, it would be easy to measure with a high speed camera that could determine precisely when a touch occurred and how long it took the OS to respond to the event.

One OS could be twice as slow to respond to events as another, but if it's sufficiently below the threshold that most people register as slow or jittery, then does it really matter?

 

[Zen0]

if someone would just measure "smoothness" empirically, there'd be a lot less subjective debate. Maybe it would just shift the whining to the fairness of the test and measures, but it would at least be better than the constant anecdotal hearsay we have now.

Conceivably, it would be easy to measure with a high speed camera that could determine precisely when a touch occurred and how long it took the os to respond to the event.

One os could be twice as slow to respond to events as another, but if it's sufficiently below the threshold that most people register as slow or jittery, then does it really matter?

responsiveness

 

[shortylickens]

If someone would just measure "smoothness" empirically, there'd be a lot less subjective debate. Maybe it would just shift the whining to the fairness of the test and measures, but it would at least be better than the constant anecdotal hearsay we have now.

Conceivably, it would be easy to measure with a high speed camera that could determine precisely when a touch occurred and how long it took the OS to respond to the event.

One OS could be twice as slow to respond to events as another, but if it's sufficiently below the threshold that most people register as slow or jittery, then does it really matter?

You cant. And thats how iphone fans manage to continue their debate. They will argue for thousands of posts (see this forum) about something that is pretty much entirely subjective and can never have a solid, final answer.

There are obvious differences within a single platform, such as an Android phone which eventually becomes overloaded with poorly coded widgets and behaves noticeably slower than it did before.

Of course, since neither the iphone nor ipad nor itab or ibox or any igadget even allow widgets, this is a moot point.

 

[DivideBYZero]

I've seen and used all major platforms and had all of them 'lag' on me, so this whole discussion is moot.

I also wish people would stop confusing User Experience with Operating System.

 

[zsdersw]

Seen != Own

Given how much time I spend with my best friend and how much he uses his iPhone, yes, it's close enough to owning one to know.

iPhones do stutter from time to time but Android is lag central.

How many Android devices have you played with or owned? You'd know better than to make such a blanket statement if you played with/owned more than one or two.

 

[kubani1]

I like apple, i like using my macbook and i will upgrade this summer to one of the new macbook pro's, but i go on sites like this and i feel embarrassed to be a Mac user.

every slam to an apple fanboy is well worth it.

 

[JD50]

I dont either.

All you do is flame and then crap on everybody who flames you back. Then you cry about how this place is filled with fanboys and you cant have an intelligent discussion here.

If you really think apple suckers are so superior why would you ever leave your precious apple forum?


YOU HAVE TO BE TROLLING!
There is no other explanation for your behavior.

:thumbsup:

This thread was doomed from the start. "Everything but the iPad sucks!!" yea that's gonna promote some real debate...

 

[Mopetar]

You cant. And thats how iphone fans manage to continue their debate. They will argue for thousands of posts (see this forum) about something that is pretty much entirely subjective and can never have a solid, final answer.

No, I think it's measurable. If you record at 300 fps or more, it should be possible to measure the difference between a touch even occurring and how long it takes the UI to respond to it. In order to remove human error, you'd probably want to use a setup like these guys used to measure touch screen accuracy.

You are probably right that it may be subjective for most people and really depends on what they're used to seeing. In that way an Android device can feel both smooth and laggy to different people. However, it is definitely possible to measure these things in an empirical manner.

 

[MrX8503]

Given how much time I spend with my best friend and how much he uses his iPhone, yes, it's close enough to owning one to know.



How many Android devices have you played with or owned? You'd know better than to make such a blanket statement if you played with/owned more than one or two.

All of my friends own an Android device ranging from low end (LG Ally) to the high end (Galaxy S). On top of that I've owned an EVO 4G, so I'm quite certain I've gotten more experience with an alternative device than yourself with an iPhone.

Android is a stuttery OS, I've experienced it when owning one, using my friends phones, and seeing several videos of it. Android does some things well, but being smooth isn't one of them.

 

[Oyeve]

All of my friends own an Android device ranging from low end (LG Ally) to the high end (Galaxy S). On top of that I've owned an EVO 4G, so I'm quite certain I've gotten more experience with an alternative device than yourself with an iPhone.

Android is a stuttery OS, I've experienced it when owning one, using my friends phones, and seeing several videos of it. Android does some things well, but being smooth isn't one of them.

Very true, i am an android user but recently got an iphone 4 just to mess with and stream netflix when I am falling asleep. The iphone 4 just sucks at normal stuff like email and browsing but it has netflix. The android is just about the best but the lag and stuttering really do suck. I mainly use my vibrant and can say that I get really pissed off at the stuttering and lag. Dont even get me started on simple shit that FCs on me. But if I had to choose between an iphone or my vibrant I would take my vibrant over the iphone in a heartbeat. The iphone may be smooth but the native apps just really suck. KB=suck, email=major suck, itunes=worseposintheworld. Yes, I can hack and root or jailbreak it to make it better but out of the box the normal apps and usage sucks.

 

[YoungGun21]

All of my friends own an Android device ranging from low end (LG Ally) to the high end (Galaxy S). On top of that I've owned an EVO 4G, so I'm quite certain I've gotten more experience with an alternative device than yourself with an iPhone.

Android is a stuttery OS, I've experienced it when owning one, using my friends phones, and seeing several videos of it. Android does some things well, but being smooth isn't one of them.

The Galaxy S phones lag because of Samsung's poor choices, not because of the operating system (RFS vs EXT4).