why the complex series of injections for execution?

[DangerAardvark]

Originally posted by: Nitemare

Originally posted by: Ryan
Why do we kill the killers to show that killing is bad?

killers deprive other people of life...

do unto others and deprive them of theirs...

Wow, you have completely misunderstood "do unto others". The other half of that quote is "as you would have them do unto you". So you support capital punishment as a way to encourage murder?

Anyway, the reason it's so complicated to kill someone is because it's KILLING SOMEONE. There are people who's job it is to do this and they're the ones who have to sleep at night, not you. So until you have to watch someone die as a result of your actions all you internet Robocops can STFU.

 

[Kirby]

I'd just as soon beat em in the head with a claw hammer.

 

[RedCOMET]

what does the new testament say about the the death penalty or the gospel?

 

[Alistar7]

Originally posted by: ConstipatedVigilante

Originally posted by: FoBoT

Originally posted by: bignateyk

Originally posted by: FoBoT

Originally posted by: bignateyk

Originally posted by: PottedMeat
Why not just carbon monoxide?

Exactly. It really just doesn't seem like it should be so complicated. I can think of at least 10 ways to kill someone that would be easy, cheap, and pain free.

that is cruel/unusual punishment
you could just stuff them in a burlap bag with some bricks and toss them into a pond or the ocean too

How would using carbon monoxide be cruel and unusual? How about using anesthesia, and then carbon monoxide?

ask the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals

http://www.lectlaw.com/files/cas73.htm

In short, we hold that the district court's extensive factual findings
concerning the level of pain suffered by an inmate during execution by
lethal gas are not clearly erroneous. The district court's findings of
extreme pain, the length of time this extreme pain lasts, and the
substantial risk that inmates will suffer this extreme pain for several
minutes require the conclusion that execution by lethal gas is cruel and
unusual. Accordingly, we conclude that execution by lethal gas under the
California protocol is unconstitutionally cruel and unusual and violates
the Eighth and Fourteenth Amendments. The district court's permanent
injunction against defendants is AFFIRMED.

Um, carbon monoxide would not be painful. You just pass out and don't wake up. It's not like some nerve gas that makes you puke all over the place before you die. It takes the place of the oxygen in the lung's receptors, thus you suffocate. But the body doesn't know the difference (although the mind might notice the sleepiness).

IIRC the term is hypoxic euphoria, same thing happens when you drown.

 

[bobsmith1492]

Originally posted by: zinfamous

Originally posted by: RapidSnail

Originally posted by: zinfamous
when you consider that the death penalty has been proven time and again to not deter violent crime, and that rather large numbers of death row inmates have been exonerated due to newly allowed DNA evidence, I find this sentiment to be rather concerning.

The death penalty is not a crime deterrent, it is a punishment for the greatest wrong a human can inflict on the lives of others. If any person murders another person in cold-blood, they automatically sacrifice their right to remain alive. Life is a privilege afforded by a father and mother and God. You do not earn the right to live, you are given it, and you certainly do not have the authority to take that right from anybody else.

Originally posted by: zinfamous
I don't think the guilty should go unpunished, but I think there are major flaws in our law & justice system that need to be corrected before we consider putting another person to death.

I agree with this. Capital punishment is not what's flawed; what's flawed is our methods of detection. The death penalty should not be blamed for the loss of innocent lives, and instead of banishing it from our legal system, we should work to better the conditions by which we make accusations.

Originally posted by: zinfamous
...especially when you consider that it is the "moral majority" and the " True Christians" of this country that are the largest supports of capital punishment. I wonder what their Christ would think of this perverted and exploitative interpretation of his teachings?

I'm not sure what you were saying was a "perverted and exploitative interpretation," but the Bible does support the death penalty, if that's what you meant.

Genesis 9:6

Whoso sheddeth man's blood, by man shall his blood be shed: for in the image of God made he man.

Numbers 35:30-31

Whoso killeth any person, the murderer shall be put to death by the mouth of witnesses: but one witness shall not testify against any person to cause him to die.

Moreover ye shall take no satisfaction for the life of a murderer, which is guilty of death: but he shall be surely put to death.

ok. so why simply punish someone? would you not want to deter other people from commiting such crimes in the future. that is the most sadistic, heinous misunderstanding of capital punishment that I have heard of. The death penalty is absolutely used as a deterrent; this is the NUMBER 1 issue that people turn to in support of capital punishment; despite the fact that there is 0 evidence to support it; and mountains of evidence refuting it.

until you quote from Christ's mouth (the NT), you still remain anti-Christian.

Matthew 5:19 - "For I did not come to abolish the law but to fulfill it..."