Why not make it impossible to operate a car while intoxicated?

[FDF12389]

3) Mandate the saftey feature (blow n go or whatever the latest tech is)

This is the point I'm addressing. I'll address the others later if I have time.

The latest tech can be circumvented by sucking instead of blowing. It sucks.

 

[IceBergSLiM]

This is the point I'm addressing. I'll address the others later if I have time.

The latest tech can be circumvented by sucking instead of blowing. It sucks.

well according to the popsci link the latest tech a combination of multiple sensors include breath and skin.

 

[BoberFett]

I've had my blow and go installed for a few days now and I don't think it would be bad for all cars to have them. It takes an extra ten seconds before you take off but wouldn't that be worth saving thousands of lives a year? It would also do away with not knowing your bac like things are now.

It would get my vote for sure

You've had it for a few days you buffoon. Wait until the thing starts making you late for work and breaking down every week or two.

 

[BoomerD]

Looking around the web, SmartStart alcohol interlock costs between $250 and $3.00 per day...plus "various fees" that they charge you for having the unit. PLUS, you have to have the unit "recalibrated" every month or two, depending on what's set up in advance. Miss your appointment for recalibration...the unit locks you out until you call and get a special "one-time" code that allows you to drive to the facility to have the unit serviced.

Fuck that. Put them in the cars of drunks...leave the rest of us who actually obey the law out of it.

 

[amicold]

No one pointed out he definitely posted this while hammered based on the word order in the title.

 

[rudeguy]

You have got to be one of the most consistently ignorant people on this forum.

"Why not make our impossible"?

Why not make your impossible? You fucking 'tard!

I blame t9. It works so well that I didn't double check.

I still love you though

 

[alkemyst]

Then someone will complain about unnecessary costs; they would have a point.

I don't care about costs, I care about needing to use my car in an emergency and having that device fail.

As far as fail, I was a victim of blowing more than I drank. In the end, it just made sense to pay the fines and be done with it rather than retain an attorney and fight it. As rare as a police station breathalyzer reading wrong, I can only imagine every car in the country working 100% each day.

In the end DUI/DWI is more a political problem than a real one at the level they set for it.

How many people are killed at .08? Most events are at double that and beyond.

DUI law is akin to going out and arresting every gun owner that is carrying their weapon for attempted murder.

It's the only crime in the US that millions are arrested and fined heavily over hurting nothing because only several thousand were affected, most of which were those doing the drinking to begin with.

It says a lot when the person that started the movement wants nothing to do with how it's enforced now.

 

[Red Dawn]

I don't care about costs, I care about needing to use my car in an emergency and having that device fail.

In the end DUI/DWI is more a political problem than a real one at the level they set for it.

How many people are killed at .08? Most events are at double that and beyond.

It's the only crime in the US that millions are arrested and fined heavily over hurting nothing because only several thousand were affected, most of which were those doing the drinking to begin with.

It says a lot when the person that started the movement wants nothing to do with how it's enforced now.

You had a DUI right? I sure as hell wouldn't want a drunken slob like you behind the wheel of a car after your weekend ration of shit beer.

 

[MetalMat]

I don't think anyone that has been drinking quite a bit of alcohol should be behind the wheel. It is not safe and is dumb, 2 tons of speeding steel is no joke

That being said, I really think that people can become nazis when it comes having a couple beers and then driving. People are way too quick to blame an accident on any substance other than a driver making a simple mistake. Take it as you will but I think the .08 limit is just plain dumb. Its another way to have the MADD nazis feel better and another way for the state to get money

I live downtown so I don't make the mistake of driving drunk and I offer any friends that I go out with to stay at my place anytime they have been drinking. However if a friend is just dead set on driving home after drinks and I can't convince them to stay I won't argue hardcore with them. Its up to them to roll the dice and a DWI is very costly

I got very close to getting a DWI in Dallas and it cost me quite a bit of money to not get convicted. I never drive drunk now and I try to pass this wisdom to my friends and family, its up to them to decide what to do with that knowledge

 

[vi edit]

I'm not going to argue the semantics of .08 vs. .1

What's more important to me are the times of day. Simply put .08 at 4:00 in the afternoon is far less dangerous than .08 at 1:00 in the morning. It's that combo of time & booze that's the real killer. You are already tired, add the alcohol on top and that's a bad recipe.

That being said it's my opinion(and likely backed by some statistics that I can't find) that most people are more likely to consume more later into the night when they are already at higher risk of accidents. I can accept the .08 laws as I do really feel like they have made a positive impact on alchol related deaths.

 

[CRXican]

I'm not going to argue the semantics of .08 vs. .1

What's more important to me are the times of day. Simply put .08 at 4:00 in the afternoon is far less dangerous than .08 at 1:00 in the morning. It's that combo of time & booze that's the real killer. You are already tired, add the alcohol on top and that's a bad recipe.

That being said it's my opinion(and likely backed by some statistics that I can't find) that most people are more likely to consume more later into the night when they are already at higher risk of accidents. I can accept the .08 laws as I do really feel like they have made a positive impact on alchol related deaths.

that makes no sense

who's on the road at 1am?

other drunks

 

[vi edit]

that makes no sense

who's on the road at 1am?

other drunks

Eh? A person with a .08 BAC is more than likely more impaired from the combo of booze & tiredness at 1:00AM than they would be at 4:00PM.

 

[gaidensensei]

that makes no sense

who's on the road at 1am?

other drunks

Geographical differences.
You can stereotype drunks out past midnight in LA area but in SF, DC, NY? Plenty of nightlife.

 

[KentState]

Do we currently have any other system in place that assume someone is breaking the law and requires proof to the contrary before use?

 

[alkemyst]

You had a DUI right? I sure as hell wouldn't want a drunken slob like you behind the wheel of a car after your weekend ration of shit beer.

My insurance never was affected, my job search was never affected, I just had to pay.

That night I had drank about 6 beers from 6pm to 2am (my tab)...I was arrested pulling into my driveway by a chick I broke up with calling a friend that was a cop I believe.

My roadside was done with me in the middle of the road with both cops off it. Cars were seen in the tape almost running me over.

I kept asking them to repeat their instructions because with traffic I couldn't hear. They asked me to say the alphabet, I thought it was backwards...I said it perfectly 3 times. They documented it. They arrested me because they thought I didn't know the alphabet.

Later I blew .168 which was impossible for the amount I drank. I never drove drunk in my life...I'd just camp it out and wait for the time to pass.

I just paid it out...about $5000. That's what it is all about. They even let you pay for your community service. WOW! $10/hr then. That was when I was only making a fraction of what I make now. In reality, today that would have never happened...today paying that $10k for a lawyer and fucking them back would have been so worth it.

Fuck today was $4000, paid...not on credit. Meanwhile for many today would have been a crisis...one they couldn't do.

You are just sad now looking back how shitty your life ended up. I can't comment directly, but I got 10 infraction points that never expire for just posting a richard simmons pic in a ATHF thread.

I think that's the way you look at the world, like somehow you are better than everyone. In the end you are just a has been, trying to play a part they can't live up to and now have a vehicle to punish people.

fucking loser.

 

[alkemyst]

that makes no sense

who's on the road at 1am?

other drunks

People who have a shift that starts at 1am?

 

[vi edit]

I'm not talking about other people on the road. I'm saying that just about anyone is at higher risk of weaving, slower reaction time or other various driving impairments at that hour. Sober or not. Add in the drinking and you compound the problem. Thats all. Drinking at later hours is more difficult for the driver than doing it in the day when they are more normally alert.

 

[MetalMat]

My insurance never was affected, my job search was never affected, I just had to pay.

That night I had drank about 6 beers from 6pm to 2am (my tab)...I was arrested pulling into my driveway by a chick I broke up with calling a friend that was a cop I believe.

My roadside was done with me in the middle of the road with both cops off it. Cars were seen in the tape almost running me over.

I kept asking them to repeat their instructions because with traffic I couldn't hear. They asked me to say the alphabet, I thought it was backwards...I said it perfectly 3 times. They documented it. They arrested me because they thought I didn't know the alphabet.

Later I blew .168 which was impossible for the amount I drank. I never drove drunk in my life...I'd just camp it out and wait for the time to pass.

I just paid it out...about $5000. That's what it is all about. They even let you pay for your community service. WOW! $10/hr then. That was when I was only making a fraction of what I make now. In reality, today that would have never happened...today paying that $10k for a lawyer and fucking them back would have been so worth it.

Fuck today was $4000, paid...not on credit. Meanwhile for many today would have been a crisis...one they couldn't do.

You are just sad now looking back how shitty your life ended up. I can't comment directly, but I got 10 infraction points that never expire for just posting a richard simmons pic in a ATHF thread.

I think that's the way you look at the world, like somehow you are better than everyone. In the end you are just a has been, trying to play a part they can't live up to and now have a vehicle to punish people.

fucking loser.

I feel you brother, I had to pay around 5k myself. Freakin sucked

 

[Leros]

Screw that. I don't drive drunk. Never have never will. I don't want an extra hassle everytime I start my car because of idiots who do drive drunk.

 

[jman19]

Is this like the fox who bites off his own tail to escape a trap and then tries to convince all the other foxes not having a tail is great and they should all bite off their's.

Best post here in a while.

 

[rudeguy]

Screw that. I don't drive drunk. Never have never will. I don't want an extra hassle everytime I start my car because of idiots who do drive drunk.

So you've never drive after drinking at all, or just never been caught?

 

[HamburgerBoy]

So you've never drive after drinking at all, or just never been caught?

An observant one you are, seeing the small invisible text reading "and get caught" following his second sentence. Everyone knows that everyone drives drunk. Some people are just lucky in never being pulled over.

 

[rudeguy]

An observant one you are, seeing the small invisible text reading "and get caught" following his second sentence. Everyone knows that everyone drives drunk. Some people are just lucky in never being pulled over.

if you have no way of knowing what your actual BAC is...how would one know for sure that they haven't?

 

[HamburgerBoy]

if you have no way of knowing what your actual BAC is...how would one know for sure that they haven't?

Where did Leros state that he drinks (but not to the point of being legally intoxicated) and drives?

 

[rudeguy]

Where did Leros state that he drinks (but not to the point of being legally intoxicated) and drives?

That's why I didn't accuse him off doing it. Care to answer my question?