why isn't chinese new year a official holiday?

[MichaelD]

I wonder...

In China, is Christmas or Rosh Hashana a holiday?

 

[RedPickle]

Originally posted by: Ronstang

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: RedPickle

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: RedPickle

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus


I just hate your attitude and your whining. Get over it.

I'm sure if people told you how your religion/ethnic traditions should only be celebrated where it originated, you would be completely OK with it. May I ask what religion/ethnicity you are?

By the way, my attitude? Too bad you didn't read my nice and civilized discussion with Sampson. Maybe you should start thinking with that mind of yours instead of just saying dumb things like "get over it." Would it be cool if some idiot said that about 9/11, to "get over it". You wouldn't think that was too nice would you?

I'm not at all religious and my ethnicity has nothing to do with this conversation.

We probably have the largest population of many countries outside of their actual country. Why should we celebrate or recognize any of their holidays as national holidays?

I grew up in New York state and I don't recall ever getting any Jewish holidays off...I'm not Jewish BTW.

As for your 9/11 argument that's comparing apples to oranges. You compare your whining about a foreign holiday to 3,000 innocent people murdered? Man, you really have your priorities out of whack.

I also grew up in NY state and always get Jewish Holidays off. Please feel free to check all SUNY and CUNY holiday schedules. I never said we should celebrate anything as a national holiday. It was merely brought up as a point that we should celebrate it more, and that it should be recognized in the same respect as Jewish holidays, in that they are celebrated in areas of concentration.

My point about the "get over it" comment was that it is the worst statement that someone can make. You obviously can not tell someone to get over something they are passionate or care about. The only reason I ask for you religion/ethnicity was to make comparisons to Chinese New Year. I am only making an assumption, but I assume you celebrate Christmas. What if that holiday were taken away, a time where you would normally spend time with family and friends. That is what Chinese New Year is to many Asian Americans. It is a time for us to all get together and be together. It is not fair that a god damn quiz is stopping me from celebrating the holiday with families and friends. You don't just tell someone to "get over it".

Why would they take it away? It's a National holiday here in America.

Sorry that you had to take the quiz instead of being with your family but I guess that's one of those sacrifices you choose to make in order to get good grades and benefit from this great economy and country. I guess you got over it didn't you?

BTW-Get used to people telling you to get over it or deal with it. It's a part of life.

To add to this, noone took your holidays away.....they are celebrated in China, you just CHOOSE not to live there. I understand and respect your desire to pass on your ancestral heritage you your kids but you are American now if you live here so that should be just as important. Noone is telling you that you can't raise your children with close ties to their Chinese heritage also but expecting a country like the US to have national holidays for every religion/ethnicity is impractical and not important to the vast majority of people. If local governments choose to then so be it but don't hold your breath. I live in Texas and the only place that has more Mexicans than us is Mexico.....and noone gets Cinco de Mayo off around here.

So why are holidays like Christmas and Haunanka celebrated in the US and not only the respective countries where they were orginated from?

 

[RedPickle]

Originally posted by: Amol

Originally posted by: RedPickle

Originally posted by: LordMorpheus
because chinese are a very small minority in this country.

There are 12 million Asians compared to about 5.8 million jews in America. Who has a holiday and who doesn't?

Asian doesn't necessarily mean Chinese

In fact, Indians are sometimes said to be "Asian" in these polls/census/survey

If you read the thread, you would know that it is not only the Chinese that celebrate the Lunar New year. This includes the Vietnamese, Indonesia, Korean, Singaporian, and Malaysian.

 

[RedPickle]

Originally posted by: MichaelD
I wonder...

In China, is Christmas or Rosh Hashana a holiday?

Christmas is widely celebrated in China and many business, especially in Hong Kong are shut down in celebration.

 

[RedPickle]

Any more questions?

 

[RedPickle]

If there are no further questions I am going to bed.

 

[RedPickle]

Night.

 

[Ronstang]

Originally posted by: RedPickle

Why is Christmas a national holiday in America? I'm sure Jesus wasn't born here, nor was the first Christmas celebrated here, but still its a holiday here. One should not need to sacrifice time with family and friends when some simple solution can be arrived at. There are 11 million asians across America and many of them celebrate the new year. This GREAT ECONOMY and COUNTRY also runs on the backs of the Asian community also, unfortunately you don't seem to understand that.

Getting used to people telling me to deal with it or get over it does not necessiarily mean that they are right. If it was my boss talking about a project or engagement, then fine. But when you start talking about religion/ethnicities, then you can't tell someone to just "get over it". Why don't you take your ignorant comments elsewhere. This thread was over until you trashed it.

You are getting absurd now.

Originally posted by: RedPickle

So why are holidays like Christmas and Haunanka celebrated in the US and not only the respective countries where they were orginated from?

That one is easy....Christmas is part of the heritage of this country....and Chanukah is only celebrated by Jews...no holiday here in Texas. If they let the Jews off for Chanukah in NYC then that is 8 days of craziness. If NYC lets the Jews off for Rosh Hashana that is their privelege but they also don't get any holiday here in Texas.

Asians total are around 3% of the population and Chinese even less so I wouldn't hold your breath. Like earlier posted "get over it"....or move to China.

 

[thirdlegstump]

Chinese girls are hot. Especially the nerdy ones with glasses.

 

[Baked]

Holidays are just an excuse for lazy bums to slack off. There should be no holidays, no weekends, 365 work days a year.

 

[Azndude51]

I didn't read this thread, but I just want to say that I have "Professional Day" tomorrow, so there's no school for students!!! SWEET!!! Perfect timing.

 

[Kaieye]

The kids attending the San Francisco Public schools are getting Chinese New Year day off today...

 

[SpunkyJones]

Originally posted by: Ronstang

Originally posted by: SampSon
Because were not in China?

Ding Ding DIng!!!! We have a WINNER!!!!!!!!

:thumbsup:

 

[Koing]

I'm in England and I just went to lectures and I'm back around my mates place.

We are all going out for a big dinner and karoke P) at 7pm

Koing

 

[JulesMaximus]

Originally posted by: RedPickle

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: RedPickle
Why is Christmas a national holiday in America? I'm sure Jesus wasn't born here, nor was the first Christmas celebrated here, but still its a holiday here. One should not need to sacrifice time with family and friends when some simple solution can be arrived at. There are 11 million asians across America and many of them celebrate the new year. This GREAT ECONOMY and COUNTRY also runs on the backs of the Asian community also, unfortunately you don't seem to understand that.

Getting used to people telling me to deal with it or get over it does not necessiarily mean that they are right. If it was my boss talking about a project or engagement, then fine. But when you start talking about religion/ethnicities, then you can't tell someone to just "get over it". Why don't you take your ignorant comments elsewhere. This thread was over until you trashed it.

Give me a break. I've had to work holidays before. Many people do. You aren't going to get much sympathy from me with that argument.

I never said it was right or fair. It's a fact of life!

Just because you don't like the message doesn't make me ignorant or wrong. DEAL WITH IT!!!

You make it sound like its so horrible to work through a holiday. Maybe because it is. You don't give sympathy because you don't understand, thats ok. However, the fact that you try answer a valid question with "This is America, get over it", instead of any valid truths, facts, or even decent opinions, your act like an ignorant a$$hole.

Me? I'm not the one who started this thread. I'm just saying I don't know what makes you so special that the entire country should celebrate a holiday that is only important to a small percentage of its population.

I have given opinions and facts in my arguments. You just don't like them so you think I'm attacking you. Now you resort to name calling. Nice. How very tolerant of you. :roll:

 

[MikeyIs4Dcats]

does China recognize the 4th of July?

 

I went to bed, got up and this thread is still going...

I think most of you are missing the argument redpickle is making. He's not saying that the chinese new year should be a national holiday like xmas or 4th of july or thanksgiving.
He is arguing that the chinese holiday should be recognized as a religious holiday and people of asian descent that celebrate it should not be docked pay, or penalized for taking the day off.
The same thing is done for jews and their holidays, so he is arguing that the chinese holiday should be handled the same way. In areas very heavily populated with jews many businesses and schools shutdown because a vast majority of the population will not be there anyway.

 

[xospec1alk]

^ i think people don't actually read the arguments...

 

[BigJ]

Originally posted by: SampSon
I went to bed, got up and this thread is still going...

I think most of you are missing the argument redpickle is making. He's not saying that the chinese new year should be a national holiday like xmas or 4th of july or thanksgiving.
He is arguing that the chinese holiday should be recognized as a religious holiday and people of asian descent that celebrate it should not be docked pay, or penalized for taking the day off.
The same thing is done for jews and their holidays, so he is arguing that the chinese holiday should be handled the same way. In areas very heavily populated with jews many businesses and schools shutdown because a vast majority of the population will not be there anyway.

:thumbsup:

 

[JulesMaximus]

Originally posted by: SampSon
I went to bed, got up and this thread is still going...

I think most of you are missing the argument redpickle is making. He's not saying that the chinese new year should be a national holiday like xmas or 4th of july or thanksgiving.
He is arguing that the chinese holiday should be recognized as a religious holiday and people of asian descent that celebrate it should not be docked pay, or penalized for taking the day off.
The same thing is done for jews and their holidays, so he is arguing that the chinese holiday should be handled the same way. In areas very heavily populated with jews many businesses and schools shutdown because a vast majority of the population will not be there anyway.

We don't get any Jewish holidays off where I work. If a Jewish person wants to take off a Jewish holiday they use their vacation time. None of the banks or schools around here have those days off either.

I'm sure it just comes down to money. It costs money to close those institutions down and be unproductive for a holiday.

 

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: SampSon
I went to bed, got up and this thread is still going...

I think most of you are missing the argument redpickle is making. He's not saying that the chinese new year should be a national holiday like xmas or 4th of july or thanksgiving.
He is arguing that the chinese holiday should be recognized as a religious holiday and people of asian descent that celebrate it should not be docked pay, or penalized for taking the day off.
The same thing is done for jews and their holidays, so he is arguing that the chinese holiday should be handled the same way. In areas very heavily populated with jews many businesses and schools shutdown because a vast majority of the population will not be there anyway.

We don't get any Jewish holidays off where I work. If a Jewish person wants to take off a Jewish holiday they use their vacation time. None of the banks or schools around here have those days off either.

I'm sure it just comes down to money. It costs money to close those institutions down and be unproductive for a holiday.

Here in NY jewish holidays are recognized and there is no penalty for a jewish person for taking off thoes holidays. I lived, worked and went to school in an area very heavily populated with people of jewish faith. The school districts went as far as to close schools on thoes days due to a vast majority of the population not being in attendance. It was not a national holiday, banks didn't close, the post office was open, but the jews were not penalized for taking a religious holiday.

Yes, as I and redpickle have said in this thread already, areas that are so heavily populated with chinese or asian people that all of them taking off for the day would disrupt normal operations, then the holiday should be recognized in that area. That is his point. In thoes areas so heavily populated with asian people everyone taking off a day will make it as non-productive, if not more, than having an official holiday.
And that point holds up because that is how it is handled in many areas. Also redpickle lives in NYC which is an area which DOES recognize jewish holidays, so I can see how he will feel angry about a glaring double standard.

In this country you cannot be penalized for taking off a religious holiday.

 

[blakeatwork]

Originally posted by: stickybytes
as many of you may know, chinese new year is tomorrow. the board of ed in my state (nyc) does not recognize chinese new year as a official holiday so therefore i will either be forced to go to school or live with a cut on my record. because of that, im planning to go unfourtantely.

how many people here are not going to school because of chinese new year?

Same reason I don't get St Patrick's day off here in North America... because I'm not in Ireland anymore!

 

[Pr0d1gy]

Originally posted by: blakeatwork


Same reason I don't get St Patrick's day off here in North America... because I'm not in Ireland anymore!

Exactly.

 

[Jzero]

I don't get this "take a cut" thing. If you are REALLY celebrating Chinese New Year, then you would be able to get your parents to call you out. Unless you equate an unexcused absence with cutting class, but at my school they were totally different.

 

[JulesMaximus]

Originally posted by: SampSon

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: SampSon
I went to bed, got up and this thread is still going...

I think most of you are missing the argument redpickle is making. He's not saying that the chinese new year should be a national holiday like xmas or 4th of july or thanksgiving.
He is arguing that the chinese holiday should be recognized as a religious holiday and people of asian descent that celebrate it should not be docked pay, or penalized for taking the day off.
The same thing is done for jews and their holidays, so he is arguing that the chinese holiday should be handled the same way. In areas very heavily populated with jews many businesses and schools shutdown because a vast majority of the population will not be there anyway.

We don't get any Jewish holidays off where I work. If a Jewish person wants to take off a Jewish holiday they use their vacation time. None of the banks or schools around here have those days off either.

I'm sure it just comes down to money. It costs money to close those institutions down and be unproductive for a holiday.

Here in NY jewish holidays are recognized and there is no penalty for a jewish person for taking off thoes holidays. I lived, worked and went to school in an area very heavily populated with people of jewish faith. The school districts went as far as to close schools on thoes days due to a vast majority of the population not being in attendance. It was not a national holiday, banks didn't close, the post office was open, but the jews were not penalized for taking a religious holiday.

Yes, as I and redpickle have said in this thread already, areas that are so heavily populated with chinese or asian people that all of them taking off for the day would disrupt normal operations, then the holiday should be recognized in that area. That is his point. In thoes areas so heavily populated with asian people everyone taking off a day will make it as non-productive, if not more, than having an official holiday.
And that point holds up because that is how it is handled in many areas. Also redpickle lives in NYC which is an area which DOES recognize jewish holidays, so I can see how he will feel angry about a glaring double standard.

In this country you cannot be penalized for taking off a religious holiday.

I grew up in New York in the Albany area. None of the schools were closed for Jewish holidays. I guess if the Asian community wants to close their businesses and pull their kids out of school to celebrate the Chinese New Year then they might eventually be recognized in the same manner in that little area. However, I don't see it as a double standard. I'm sure that if the Jews in that area went off to school in different parts of the country they would find that their holidays are not recognized just as the Chinese New Year isn't recognized.

I have friends who are Jewish. They take vacation time off from work around their religious holidays. It is not a company paid holiday. So, while you cannot be fired for taking the time off it is not a recognized holiday. This is how it works in the real world outside of school. I suggest to our friend that he get this chip off his shoulder. It's not going to do him any good in life.