why isn't chinese new year a official holiday?

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brtspears2

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Bah doesn't matter to me. If I don't show up to work, I don't get paid. Heck that happens on any hoilday/special day on a weekday. Heck, why don't we just abolish all holidays on weekdays.
 

RedPickle

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Originally posted by: brtspears2
Bah doesn't matter to me. If I don't show up to work, I don't get paid. Heck that happens on any hoilday/special day on a weekday. Heck, why don't we just abolish all holidays on weekdays.

Christmas isn't a paid holiday for you?
 

Ronstang

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Originally posted by: RedPickle
Originally posted by: Ronstang
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The only non traditional holidays that people get off are religious ones i think and I dont think chinese new year's counts as one.


agreed

Martin Luther King Jr. Day, July 4th, Labor Day, and Thanksgiving don't seem like religious holidays to me.


But you know something.....they all seem to have something to do with THIS country, huh?

So... Rosh Hashana has to do with America how?

Alright I researched Rosh Hashana and it does have religious significance.

See here: http://www.jewfaq.org/holiday2.htm

It is one of the holiest days for the Jewish religion.

So now tell us why you should get off for a non-religious holiday that has nothing to do with this country.

You must relize that it's probably only a state holiday. That is alot different from it being a national holiday where banks and Post Offices' are closed. In Texas, it's just another day of class.

I realize that it's mostly for NY state, but we (the Chinese population) gets no recognition for our holidays. Not one. American celebrates Valentine's Day (a made up holiday) more than it does ethnic holidays. Kind of sad.

How many US holidays are celebrated in China?

In China they ONLY celebrate Chinese holidays. In America, where everyone is free and given equal opportunity, the chinese ethnicity should be allowed to celebrate their holiday just as every other race is allowed to celebrate theirs.


America is a Melting Pot and has been for quite some time and as a result OUR (that includes you) holidays are an amalgam of of other holidays or ones that are genuinely ours that have risen out of history. I am German-American but I do not celebrate any holidays unique to Germany unless I happen to be in Germany during said celebration. I also do not expect the US to celebrate German holidays no matter how many German Americans there are in this country. There are quite a lot of Italian Americans in the US too but we don't celebrate Italian holidays.....and I bet the German/Italian American populations are larger than the Chinese American population. I bet you are now going to try and turn this into a "racial" thing but don't bother because that has nothing to do with it at all.
 

Reggae4k

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its LUNAR NEW YEARS you trolls. many nations and ethnic backgrounds do celebrate lunar new years besides the chinese.
 

RedPickle

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Originally posted by: Ronstang
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Originally posted by: Buickbeast
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Originally posted by: jst0ney
Originally posted by: Mo0o
The only non traditional holidays that people get off are religious ones i think and I dont think chinese new year's counts as one.


agreed

Martin Luther King Jr. Day, July 4th, Labor Day, and Thanksgiving don't seem like religious holidays to me.


But you know something.....they all seem to have something to do with THIS country, huh?

So... Rosh Hashana has to do with America how?

Alright I researched Rosh Hashana and it does have religious significance.

See here: http://www.jewfaq.org/holiday2.htm

It is one of the holiest days for the Jewish religion.

So now tell us why you should get off for a non-religious holiday that has nothing to do with this country.

You must relize that it's probably only a state holiday. That is alot different from it being a national holiday where banks and Post Offices' are closed. In Texas, it's just another day of class.

I realize that it's mostly for NY state, but we (the Chinese population) gets no recognition for our holidays. Not one. American celebrates Valentine's Day (a made up holiday) more than it does ethnic holidays. Kind of sad.

How many US holidays are celebrated in China?

In China they ONLY celebrate Chinese holidays. In America, where everyone is free and given equal opportunity, the chinese ethnicity should be allowed to celebrate their holiday just as every other race is allowed to celebrate theirs.


America is a Melting Pot and has been for quite some time and as a result OUR (that includes you) holidays are an amalgam of of other holidays or ones that are genuinely ours that have risen out of history. I am German-American but I do not celebrate any holidays unique to Germany unless I happen to be in Germany during said celebration. I also do not expect the US to celebrate German holidays no matter how many German Americans there are in this country. There are quite a lot of Italian Americans in the US too but we don't celebrate Italian holidays.....and I bet the German/Italian American populations are larger than the Chinese American population. I bet you are now going to try and turn this into a "racial" thing but don't bother because that has nothing to do with it at all.

You bet? This was never a "racial" thing. It is a religious topic. Unfortunately you don't know what you are talking about. May I ask what religion you are? Italians mostly are of the Christian faith, who celebrate Christmas, a very big holiday in Italy and even Germany. Yes America is a Melting Pot, but your telling me that Christmas, Haunaka (sp), and, Rosh Hashana all "genuinely ours"? Misinformed child, please watch what you are saying before you embarrass yourself. Thanks for assuming that I was going to turn this racial.
 

RedPickle

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Originally posted by: Reggae4k
its LUNAR NEW YEARS you trolls. many nations and ethnic backgrounds do celebrate lunar new years besides the chinese.

i.e. the vietnamese, koreans, singapore, malaysia, and indonesia
 

rh71

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It's amazing how "big" Chinese New Year is - the news even mentions it - but you never hear about other countries' new years or otherwise big holidays on tv.

If they are going to recognize it like that, it should mean something... exactly like Rosh Hashana. Categorize them as secondary holidays and make them all equally important in terms of days off [or not].
 

RedPickle

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Originally posted by: rh71
It's amazing how "big" Chinese New Year is - the news even mentions it - but you never hear about other countries' new years or otherwise big holidays on tv.

If they are going to recognize it like that, it should mean something... exactly like Rosh Hashana. Categorize them as secondary holidays and make them all equally important in terms of days off [or not].

Precisely my point. Well said.
 

RedPickle

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Originally posted by: LordMorpheus
because chinese are a very small minority in this country.

There are 12 million Asians compared to about 5.8 million jews in America. Who has a holiday and who doesn't?
 

Dragnov

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Waaaah waaaaah.

If you dont' like it, don't sit in front of the monitor and whine about it to ATOT. If you actually cared you can go write your local congressman, or heck even your state/national congressmens. Go start a petition, and get an actually lobby. You have the freedom to do so in this country.

And while you're trying to whine about this petty political correctness, you can reference it as Lunar New Year, not Chinese New Year.
 

Originally posted by: RedPickle
Originally posted by: SampSon

Sure, but everyone shouldn't get it off. The whole country shouldn't shut down because it's the chinese new year.

Sure, but we get little to no recognition as of now, just asking for a little bit, where there are more Chinese people.
In an area so densely populated with chinese that a large amount of faculty, staff and students all taking the day off would disrupt normal operations than a day off would probably be more logical.
If the chinese new year has a religious significance than you should be able to take it off without it counting as an absence. It should not be a national holiday, and no normal business, govt. or most civic functions should not be stopped. If you're chinese and you celebrate the new year, then take it off.

I'm also curious what exact religion the new year is linked to. Is it just general prayer to gods? Or is it part of a specific religious practice? If it's not linked to any specific religious system then there isn't a very good reason for it to be a religious holiday(in the books).

As for getting recognition, I don't see why you need to be reconized any more than the other hundred or so ethnic backgrounds in America. So the jews have a regonized holiday, what about everyone else that doesn't?
 

RedPickle

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Originally posted by: Dragnov
Waaaah waaaaah.

If you dont' like it, don't sit in front of the monitor and whine about it to ATOT. If you actually cared you can go write your local congressman, or heck even your state/national congressmens. Go start a petition, and get an actually lobby. You have the freedom to do so in this country.

And while you're trying to whine about this petty political correctness, you can reference it as Lunar New Year, not Chinese New Year.

Many times the Chinese have tried to petition, atleast locally in my areas, to no avail. If this is "petty political correctness" then maybe we should eliminate all holidays and heck even the weekends too! What's the need for those? Your an idiot. Know what you are talking about before you speak.
 

rh71

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Originally posted by: Dragnov
Waaaah waaaaah.

If you dont' like it, don't sit in front of the monitor and whine about it to ATOT. If you actually cared you can go write your local congressman, or heck even your state/national congressmens. Go start a petition, and get an actually lobby. You have the freedom to do so in this country.
Now isn't this the canned retort for valid discussions around here ... ?
 

RedPickle

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Originally posted by: SampSon
Originally posted by: RedPickle
Originally posted by: SampSon

Sure, but everyone shouldn't get it off. The whole country shouldn't shut down because it's the chinese new year.

Sure, but we get little to no recognition as of now, just asking for a little bit, where there are more Chinese people.
In an area so densely populated with chinese that a large amount of faculty, staff and students all taking the day off would disrupt normal operations than a day off would probably be more logical.
If the chinese new year has a religious significance than you should be able to take it off without it counting as an absence. It should not be a national holiday, and no normal business, govt. or most civic functions should not be stopped. If you're chinese and you celebrate the new year, then take it off.

I'm also curious what exact religion the new year is linked to. Is it just general prayer to gods? Or is it part of a specific religious practice? If it's not linked to any specific religious system then there isn't a very good reason for it to be a religious holiday(in the books).

As for getting recognition, I don't see why you need to be reconized any more than the other hundred or so ethnic backgrounds in America. So the jews have a regonized holiday, what about everyone else that doesn't?

I am from New York City and many schools and business would be shut down if the entire Asian population were to not show up. I am just saying that we shouldn't feel the need to "just take the day off." The Lunar New Year is link very closely to the Buddhist religion. We worship the traditional Buddhist gods of wealth, fertility, and longevity. the incense lighting is also a very religious act, as many go to a holy temple to do this.

As for your recognition comment, people have said the Jews are represented because there is such a large population of them. I believe that there are enough people that celebrate the Lunar New Year to have it recognized.
 

Originally posted by: RedPickle
Originally posted by: SampSon
Originally posted by: RedPickle
Originally posted by: SampSon

Sure, but everyone shouldn't get it off. The whole country shouldn't shut down because it's the chinese new year.

Sure, but we get little to no recognition as of now, just asking for a little bit, where there are more Chinese people.
In an area so densely populated with chinese that a large amount of faculty, staff and students all taking the day off would disrupt normal operations than a day off would probably be more logical.
If the chinese new year has a religious significance than you should be able to take it off without it counting as an absence. It should not be a national holiday, and no normal business, govt. or most civic functions should not be stopped. If you're chinese and you celebrate the new year, then take it off.

I'm also curious what exact religion the new year is linked to. Is it just general prayer to gods? Or is it part of a specific religious practice? If it's not linked to any specific religious system then there isn't a very good reason for it to be a religious holiday(in the books).

As for getting recognition, I don't see why you need to be reconized any more than the other hundred or so ethnic backgrounds in America. So the jews have a regonized holiday, what about everyone else that doesn't?

I am from New York City and many schools and business would be shut down if the entire Asian population were to not show up. I am just saying that we shouldn't feel the need to "just take the day off." The Lunar New Year is link very closely to the Buddhist religion. We worship the traditional Buddhist gods of wealth, fertility, and longevity. the incense lighting is also a very religious act, as many go to a holy temple to do this.

As for your recognition comment, people have said the Jews are represented because there is such a large population of them. I believe that there are enough people that celebrate the Lunar New Year to have it recognized.
Is it linked directly to bhuddism or not?

I went to high school in an area very heavily populated by jews. We had most of the important jewish holidays off because no one would be there anyway. So I fully understand what you are talking about.

What people have said the jews have a recognized holiday because there are so many of them? Someone in this thread? If so then that doesn't hold much weight.

What exactly do you want? A national holiday for chinese new year? A general regonized hoilday for it?
 

RedPickle

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Originally posted by: rh71
Originally posted by: Dragnov
Waaaah waaaaah.

If you dont' like it, don't sit in front of the monitor and whine about it to ATOT. If you actually cared you can go write your local congressman, or heck even your state/national congressmens. Go start a petition, and get an actually lobby. You have the freedom to do so in this country.
Now isn't this the canned retort for valid discussions around here ... ?

Eh, what do you expect. The guy can't even type correctly.
 

Atomicus

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Originally posted by: SampSon
Because were not in China?

We're not in Jerusalem. Why do we have Yom Kippur off?

For a celebration as rich in culture as it is in history, Chinese New Year sure is neffed in the US.
Anti-Communism = anti-Chinese ?