why is it illegal to put your own pet down?

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FoBoT

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Originally posted by: moshquerade
Just to clear up any confusion, Sprinkles the cat being placed in the freezer so it could be put out of its' misery is from "The Office".

i am not confused

are you confused?

:confused:
 

imported_Imp

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Originally posted by: Chryso
Why is it cruel? How many of us have drowned and can say straight up how bad it was?
I have heard that after the initial struggle drowning really isn't that bad.
Of course, I don't actually KNOW.

As for freezing, well, you don't want all your french fry bags all torn up.


Just hold your breath for as long as you can. That's about 5%. I've had a pool "accident", nowhere near drowning, but got stuck in the middle of the deep end. Something with not being able to breath and knowing that you can't just stop holding your breath that really gets to you: the initial struggle.

As for the original story, I agree it's more "how" they did it. Just get the gun out...
 

zeruty

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The solution is simple... if you can't afford to have a vet put down your animal, take the animal to the pound, tell them it's a stray that seems to be in a lot of pain, and came by your house and won't leave. They'll take the cat, see how sick it is, and put it down themselves...
 

moshquerade

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Originally posted by: FoBoT
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Just to clear up any confusion, Sprinkles the cat being placed in the freezer so it could be put out of its' misery is from "The Office".

i am not confused

are you confused?

:confused:
i guess so. i thought you didn't know why i referenced the freezer.
 

FoBoT

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Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: FoBoT
i know all about the freezer

do you?
why yes.... yes i do.

(wtf is going on here.... )

we should open a freezer store and sell freezers

because we both know what you can and can't freeze in freezers
 

glutenberg

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Originally posted by: GuideBot
Originally posted by: glutenberg
Originally posted by: GuideBot
It's to prevent animal cruelty, which drowning should qualify under.

All you need is a single .22 round to the cat's head. My family has taken care of several generations of animals and most of my family that lives out in BFE around here have burried their loved pets that have passed on in their back yard after performing the euthenasia themselves.

If they seemingly can't afford a vet euthanizing I would wonder why they would be able to buy a gun for the single purpose of shooting their cat.

You don't have to buy a gun. You can already own one. You can borrow one from a friend or a neighbor. Problem-solving for the win.

Vets are very expensive.

I'm guessing you live in a more rural area as it's not likely someone is going to just lend out their gun, granted they have a gun, in bigger cities and suburbs.
 
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Originally posted by: zeruty
The solution is simple... if you can't afford to have a vet put down your animal, take the animal to the pound, tell them it's a stray that seems to be in a lot of pain, and came by your house and won't leave. They'll take the cat, see how sick it is, and put it down themselves...

because animal shelters, at least around here keep bank hours.
 

jagec

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Originally posted by: Engraver
Originally posted by: Tiamat
they probably dont own a gun, what would be considered a mercy kill if you don't have any weapons?

Grind up some sleeping pills and feed them to it.

And then let it fall into your pool?

Originally posted by: Xavier434

2. Corpse disposal issues. Most Americans do not want to rely on Joe Shmoe to dispose of a corpse properly. I certainly don't.

Ya dig a hole and throw them in.:confused:

Then again, I grew up on a farm, so I think we had a more realistic view of things than the city dwelling "pets are like your children" people do. The whole "drowning kittens" thing does still make me:(, though.

The box+tailpipe thing is probably about the easiest recourse for your average American. It probably worked better before everyone had catalytic converters, of course.

A few animal deaths I have witnessed:

Slit the throat--a bit of spasming, but fast. There still seems to be that momentary panic, then they go limp.

Drowning--ugh. Panic, struggling. Not pretty.

Cat that was torn up by a dog--box+tailpipe. Took forever. Once the cat was woozy and out of it, shovel to the head.

Loser kid trying to shoot cats with a BB gun--REALLY ugly. Turns out BBs penetrate, but not very well. He had to shoot the cat over, and over, and over...I think it finally died of blood loss. I really hated that kid.

Lobster grilled alive--another one that was difficult to watch, even if it was only a crustacean. Of course, the typical boiling water method isn't much better, although it's probably quite a bit faster. I don't eat lobster now.

Deer hit by car--yeah, this one's pretty fast, but the repair bill isn't good. Might work better for smaller animals.

Shooting or massive trauma to the head is probably fastest and easiest.
Originally posted by: Injury
If you had to choose how you would die, what would you pick among these 3:

a) Firing Squad
b) Drowning
c) Lethal Injection


and for bonus points... why?

Firing squad, because it's fast, the most dignified of those three, and I like the historical symbolism.
 

Agentbolt

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Garbage Disposals cannot do anything about bones. You'll just end up breaking the teeth of it.

The proper solution is lye and acid in the bathtub, amateurs.
 

Nightfall

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6 pages later, people are chiming in on why drowning is/isn't a bad way to go.

If the cat was in sheer agony from cancer, I think if I was put in that situation, I would want to go as well. Now, if I didn't have a gun, I don't think I would choose drowning as my method of demise. I couldn't take jumping from a skyscraper or something. I think a OD on some pills may be good, as my wife knows what to take and how to take it to die, but I don't know if I could do it. I think that firing squad may be good as long as they could shoot well. I wouldn't want them winging me and then not finishing the job quickly.

Lets face it, all death has some uncomfortability to it. I suppose the only one that didn't have any would be a ground zero nuclear blast if you were right under the missile. Then you would vaporize. :)
 

BoberFett

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Originally posted by: Chryso
Originally posted by: Geekbabe

Because I've had to escort a beloved pet to the vet to ease their suffering.The animal can be held right to the end,he/she can be wrapped in a soft blanket as you say your goodbyes,he/she goes to sleep surrounded by the person who loved him,there's no frantic struggle. It is the final and most compassionate service we can give to our 4 legged companions.

Ok, now this is a good answer. I will happily accept this and retract my former comments.
You have been through this with a pet. I have not. My pets have always died on their own and did not require putting down.

I've brought several pets to be put down by a vet. I still wouldn't begrudge someone doing it in the manner of their choosing.
 

Number1

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Originally posted by: thecoolnessrune
My personal method is using a gun. However, if a gun isn't available, I slit its throat. Cruelty? perhaps.. but it doesn't last long..

The throat method, you did this to cats or dogs?

I saw a pig get its throat slit when I was a kid. It was absolutely horible with blood everywhere and the pig squeeling untill it died.

When I was a teenager, Dad decided that the family dog had to go. It was decided that I would shoot the poor thing.
I shot the dog once with a .22, but the bullet did not kill it, it just took its nose right off. Then the dog freed itself from the leach and ran to the woods. Unfortunatly, I only had one bullet with me. We had to drive home, get the 12 gage shot gun and come back to finish the job. That was the first time I saw my Dad cry.
That was the last time I ever shot or killed a pet.

Sunday morning we foud our 4 years old cat dead in the laundry room. We have no idea what killed it. I just took the body to the dump Monday.
 

thecoolnessrune

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Originally posted by: Number1
Originally posted by: thecoolnessrune
My personal method is using a gun. However, if a gun isn't available, I slit its throat. Cruelty? perhaps.. but it doesn't last long..

The throat method, you did this to cats or dogs?

I saw a pig get its throat slit when I was a kid. It was absolutely horible with blood everywhere and the pig squeeling untill it died.

When I was a teenager, Dad decided that the family dog had to go. It was decided that I would shoot the poor thing.
I shot the dog once with a .22, but the bullet did not kill it, it just took its nose right off. Then the dog freed itself from the leach and ran to the woods. Unfortunatly, I only had one bullet with me. We had to drive home, get the 12 gage shot gun and come back to finish the job. That was the first time I saw my Dad cry.
That was the last time I ever shot or killed a pet.

Sunday morning we foud our 4 years old cat dead in the laundry room. We have no idea what killed it. I just took the body to the dump Monday.

You can't down the shooting method just because you didn't take take time to aim or restrain your dog. And when I put down my cousin's dog I used a 12 guage with buckshot just to make sure I did it with no way of it suffering. I dont believe like using .22LR. I want to make sure it kills. So I've either used a shotgun, or my .357 mag. I have never owned a pet, I've only had to put down my female cousins pets down because they couldn't bare to do it and it was always some accident where there was no way to move the animal to the vet or it couldn't be put in a vehicle, such as when my cousins dog was shot. It would snap at anyone near it, even its owner, and couldn't be moved. So I took the 12 guage.. It growled once and I took it from behind my back, cocked it, boom. Never suffered. Certainly not as much as it was from the rifle wound to its stomach.

As for slitting throats. That was actually in self-defense from a rotty that attacked me. It kept growling and I unsheathed my knife. When it lept at me I was lucky enough to make a slash right across its throat. It gurlgled and fell dead almost instantly.

So yeah, for me, both forms are fine. I would choose both methods as ways to go for me.
 

MegaVovaN

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Originally posted by: Agentbolt
Garbage Disposals cannot do anything about bones. You'll just end up breaking the teeth of it.

The proper solution is lye and acid in the bathtub, amateurs.

Criminals have been caught because acid does not dissolve human teeth. Teeth have been found and victim IDd by teeth pattern. I suppose it won't dissolve cat teeth either.
 

Modelworks

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Call the police and tell them the situation.
I imagine they have to have someone who will put down an animal in distress, suppose a deer or something is left at an accident half dead. Do the cops shoot it ?
 

alkemyst

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Originally posted by: GuideBot
Originally posted by: glutenberg
Originally posted by: GuideBot
It's to prevent animal cruelty, which drowning should qualify under.

All you need is a single .22 round to the cat's head. My family has taken care of several generations of animals and most of my family that lives out in BFE around here have burried their loved pets that have passed on in their back yard after performing the euthenasia themselves.

If they seemingly can't afford a vet euthanizing I would wonder why they would be able to buy a gun for the single purpose of shooting their cat.

You don't have to buy a gun. You can already own one. You can borrow one from a friend or a neighbor. Problem-solving for the win.

Vets are very expensive.

Euthanasia is under $50 usually.
 

alkemyst

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Originally posted by: Citrix
Originally posted by: Pacfanweb
My question isn't about the cat, but about why anyone would even need to ask the question the OP did.

what, my question about when did it become illegal? why would you even question that? its a valid question.

The question is complex. The laws center around animal cruelity though.

 

alkemyst

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Originally posted by: jagec

Then again, I grew up on a farm, so I think we had a more realistic view of things than the city dwelling "pets are like your children" people do. The whole "drowning kittens" thing does still make me:(, though.

Whatever you'd like to believe livestock and pets like cats and dogs are in a different class.

Also much of what was historical done in the past is often times illegal now; whether or not it still happens.
 

bctbct

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Cats spend their life in fear of water, anyone who would think of dunking them in it until they are dead is an idiot.
 

waggy

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Originally posted by: bctbct
Cats spend their life in fear of water, anyone who would think of dunking them in it until they are dead is an idiot.

thats a myth and not true.

i have seen plenty of cats that love water.
 

bctbct

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Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: bctbct
Cats spend their life in fear of water, anyone who would think of dunking them in it until they are dead is an idiot.

thats a myth and not true.

i have seen plenty of cats that love water.

100% of the cats I owned were scared to death of water, guess yours were the myth.