why is it illegal to put your own pet down?

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waggy

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they should have just let it roam the town. maybe it would piss of a neighbor and they would shoot it or "relocate" it.
 

ElFenix

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Originally posted by: Injury
Originally posted by: teclis1023
If you're too poor to take care of an animal, then you're too poor to own an animal.

Is this a real frikkin question? "Why is it illegal to drown a cat?"

Seriously?

It's already been said. Because drowning is cruel. You can say that to just about anything that isn't near "instant kill" where the animal's last breaths are it struggling to live. They could have easily asked the animal hospital what they can do to ease the pain until they can take it to the vet the next day and ANY animal hospital would have told them right over the phone.

i don't think that teclis was actually asking for why it's illegal, but was expressing incredulity.
 

Capt Caveman

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Originally posted by: ryan256
Originally posted by: paulxcook
Why would they drown it? There are plenty of humane ways to kill something without spending money.

Such as??

Grind up sleeping pills? You know how difficult it is to give a pill to a cat? Even ground up ones?
Shoot it? Not all people own guns. (they should but thats another thread)
Suffocate it in a plastic bag? I'm pretty sure that would count as cruelty too.


I hate how society is saying you have to spend money for EVERYTHING or else.

Being a pet owner is a privilege and not a right, if you're going to be a pet owner you need to be responsible for it's well-being and care.

He could have worked a payment plan with his vet or borrowed the money to let his cat die a peaceful and respectable death.
 

moshquerade

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Originally posted by: Chryso
Why is it cruel? How many of us have drowned and can say straight up how bad it was?
I have heard that after the initial struggle drowning really isn't that bad.
Of course, I don't actually KNOW.

As for freezing, well, you don't want all your french fry bags all torn up.

:thumbsup::laugh:
those fries... damn the evidence of those tattered fry bags.... it caused such :brokenheart:
 

OutHouse

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Originally posted by: Saulbadguy
It costs less than $50 to do it at a vet.

not on a sunday at a 24 hour vet hospital. they were told 200-300 bucks and they called several.
 

Chryso

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Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
Originally posted by: ryan256
Originally posted by: paulxcook
Why would they drown it? There are plenty of humane ways to kill something without spending money.

Such as??

Grind up sleeping pills? You know how difficult it is to give a pill to a cat? Even ground up ones?
Shoot it? Not all people own guns. (they should but thats another thread)
Suffocate it in a plastic bag? I'm pretty sure that would count as cruelty too.


I hate how society is saying you have to spend money for EVERYTHING or else.

Being a pet owner is a privilege and not a right, if you're going to be a pet owner you need to be responsible for it's well-being and care.

He could have worked a payment plan with his vet or borrowed the money to let his cat die a peaceful and respectable death.

Paying someone to kill your pet counts as it's well-being and care?
How do you know the vets way is peaceful?
 
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My grandfather dug his dog's graves, then brought them over into it and shot them. Balls.

My mom had a cat stuck in her engine and took it by him to figure out what the weird noise was. He found the cat, and a quick knock with a hammer and it was gone.

Not something I'd want to do, but I do keep a little .22LR in my truck partially for this. No reason any animal should suffer if it's obvious it won't live.
 

waggy

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Originally posted by: Citrix
Originally posted by: Saulbadguy
It costs less than $50 to do it at a vet.

not on a sunday at a 24 hour vet hospital. they were told 200-300 bucks and they called several.

yeap.


while i think what they did was cruel. was it any worse then letting the cat suffer another 24 hours? who is to say.


i can't say what they did was right or wrong.
 

MegaVovaN

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Originally posted by: Anubis
Originally posted by: ryan256
Originally posted by: paulxcook
Why would they drown it? There are plenty of humane ways to kill something without spending money.

Such as??

Grind up sleeping pills? You know how difficult it is to give a pill to a cat? Even ground up ones?
Shoot it? Not all people own guns. (they should but thats another thread)
Suffocate it in a plastic bag? I'm pretty sure that would count as cruelty too.


I hate how society is saying you have to spend money for EVERYTHING or else.

hit it in the head with a shovel

:thumbsup:

or hold it down and run over with a car
 

Xavier434

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Taking a stab in the dark, I would say it is mostly for these 2 reasons:

1. Most people love pets. At least, there are enough out their to support this law. The majority of human caused unnatural deaths with pets are considered cruel. I don't need to explain how the majority of America feels about cruelty towards pets.

2. Corpse disposal issues. Most Americans do not want to rely on Joe Shmoe to dispose of a corpse properly. I certainly don't.
 

Capt Caveman

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Originally posted by: Chryso
Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
Originally posted by: ryan256
Originally posted by: paulxcook
Why would they drown it? There are plenty of humane ways to kill something without spending money.

Such as??

Grind up sleeping pills? You know how difficult it is to give a pill to a cat? Even ground up ones?
Shoot it? Not all people own guns. (they should but thats another thread)
Suffocate it in a plastic bag? I'm pretty sure that would count as cruelty too.


I hate how society is saying you have to spend money for EVERYTHING or else.

Being a pet owner is a privilege and not a right, if you're going to be a pet owner you need to be responsible for it's well-being and care.

He could have worked a payment plan with his vet or borrowed the money to let his cat die a peaceful and respectable death.

Paying someone to kill your pet counts as it's well-being and care?
How do you know the vets way is peaceful?

Obviously, you're not a pet owner/lover. Because the pet is knocked out prior to being euthanized and thus doesn't feel any pain.
 

evident

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this is so dumb, it's the vets way of making you give more money to them, kind of like why you can't bury your dead you have to go to a funeral home

although drowning the cat is cruel... it's less than what it would have gone through imo...
 

Chryso

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Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
Originally posted by: Chryso
Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
Originally posted by: ryan256
Originally posted by: paulxcook
Why would they drown it? There are plenty of humane ways to kill something without spending money.

Such as??

Grind up sleeping pills? You know how difficult it is to give a pill to a cat? Even ground up ones?
Shoot it? Not all people own guns. (they should but thats another thread)
Suffocate it in a plastic bag? I'm pretty sure that would count as cruelty too.


I hate how society is saying you have to spend money for EVERYTHING or else.

Being a pet owner is a privilege and not a right, if you're going to be a pet owner you need to be responsible for it's well-being and care.

He could have worked a payment plan with his vet or borrowed the money to let his cat die a peaceful and respectable death.

Paying someone to kill your pet counts as it's well-being and care?
How do you know the vets way is peaceful?

Obviously, you're not a pet owner/lover. Because the pet is knocked out prior to being euthanized and thus doesn't feel any pain.

And how do you know the cat in question wasn't knocked out?
 

Anubis

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tbqhwy.com
Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
Originally posted by: Chryso
Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
Originally posted by: ryan256
Originally posted by: paulxcook
Why would they drown it? There are plenty of humane ways to kill something without spending money.

Such as??

Grind up sleeping pills? You know how difficult it is to give a pill to a cat? Even ground up ones?
Shoot it? Not all people own guns. (they should but thats another thread)
Suffocate it in a plastic bag? I'm pretty sure that would count as cruelty too.


I hate how society is saying you have to spend money for EVERYTHING or else.

Being a pet owner is a privilege and not a right, if you're going to be a pet owner you need to be responsible for it's well-being and care.

He could have worked a payment plan with his vet or borrowed the money to let his cat die a peaceful and respectable death.

Paying someone to kill your pet counts as it's well-being and care?
How do you know the vets way is peaceful?

Obviously, you're not a pet owner/lover. Because the pet is knocked out prior to being euthanized and thus doesn't feel any pain.


i am a pet owner and lover and if one of my cats was in that situation i woudl have put it down myself, i dont own a gun, and i prob wouldent have drowned it, i prob would have used a shovel or hammer, and burried it out back,
 

Modular

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The real question is why they told Timmy how they took the bastid out. They should have told him to go to a friends house and broken the news to him when he came home. Never tell a child anything. They can't lie!
 

alkemyst

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Legally a pet owner can put their pet down, but not themselves.

The reasons are many...mainly it's not easy to kill things many times although most people think shoot it in the head or 'heart' and it's instant. Some of the time the owner get attacked and maimed during this and other times they end up with collateral damage when a bullet or the method harms someone else.

Pets and livestock are protected by laws of humanity. It has nothing to do with people thinking they are better than people, just people thinking higher level living creatures do not deserve to be harmed unnecessarily.

Drowning though is a moronic way to kill anything.
 

MegaVovaN

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Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
Originally posted by: Chryso
And how do you know the cat in question wasn't knocked out?

It wasn't mentioned. And how would they have been able to knock it out?

Gas chamber or some patch.
Like dentist puts a patch in my mouth, it lies there for few mins then I do not feel the needle!
 

Xavier434

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It's amazing how much money people are willing to shell out in doctor's visits and prescription drugs just so they can be only be a little more comfortable during a 3-4 day cold. Yet, they are not willing to spend a couple hundred bucks for their pet to have a death without any suffering. I know it boils down to how certain people view the value of life between different species, but in general I just don't get it.
 

pontifex

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Originally posted by: evident
this is so dumb, it's the vets way of making you give more money to them, kind of like why you can't bury your dead you have to go to a funeral home

although drowning the cat is cruel... it's less than what it would have gone through imo...

i'm sure there are more reasons to it than money...
 

Agentbolt

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I have heard that after the initial struggle drowning really isn't that bad.
Of course, I don't actually KNOW.

You can't really be that stupid. How about the terror of being forced headfirst into a bucket of water and then not being able to breathe? Do you think the cat just sat there and took it? It probably desperately tried to escape until it died. It was terrified.

Tell you what, if you get cancer and can't find a doctor willing to put you out of your misery, I will be happy to drown you. You can give me a thumbs up or thumbs down to let me know much fun it is.
 

Xavier434

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Originally posted by: pontifex
Originally posted by: evident
this is so dumb, it's the vets way of making you give more money to them, kind of like why you can't bury your dead you have to go to a funeral home

although drowning the cat is cruel... it's less than what it would have gone through imo...

i'm sure there are more reasons to it than money...


One quick scenario:

Let's say your neighbor is a douche and kills his pet cat. He doesn't want to throw it in the trash because there have been problems with rodents getting into it. The two of you live in a somewhat rural area with a small woods very close to your neighborhood. The neighbor decides to bury it in a shallow grave here in the woods figuring mother nature will handle the rest.

That night, a raccoon with rabies sniffs the corpse out, digs it up, and takes a few bites. This is followed by some rodents having their fair share and getting infected with rabies. Those rodents go about their usual routines which may happen to be eating from the trash cans in your neighborhood and some may even get in your house. This is followed by your pets either getting bitten by or eating these rodents and getting rabies. Or worse, the rodents bite you in your sleep.


I'd rather not deal with this and force people to pay for proper corpse disposal through a vet.

 

BarbeQueGuy

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It is a hard decision to have to put down a pet but when they are suffering, it becomes necessary. I have pet rats and their lifespan is about 2 years. When they start getting too old they get sick very quickly and it is evident that they are suffering and the vet is not always available.
We have a good vet and they work with us on the costs of caring for them because they are small and we do most of the needed care anyway. On occasion I have had to humanely euthanize a few and because the proper drugs are not available to the general public, you have to be very creative. I've built my own variation of this chamber.
Though the people in the OP had good intentions, I think their method was cruel and that is maybe why they got in trouble.
 

OutHouse

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Originally posted by: Xavier434
Originally posted by: pontifex
Originally posted by: evident
this is so dumb, it's the vets way of making you give more money to them, kind of like why you can't bury your dead you have to go to a funeral home

although drowning the cat is cruel... it's less than what it would have gone through imo...

i'm sure there are more reasons to it than money...


One quick scenario:

Let's say your neighbor is a douche and kills his pet cat. He doesn't want to throw it in the trash because there have been problems with rodents getting into it. The two of you live in a somewhat rural area with a small woods very close to your neighborhood. The neighbor decides to bury it in a shallow grave here in the woods figuring mother nature will handle the rest.

That night, a raccoon with rabies sniffs the corpse out, digs it up, and takes a few bites. This is followed by some rodents having their fair share and getting infected with rabies. Those rodents go about their usual routines which may happen to be eating from the trash cans in your neighborhood and some may even get in your house. This is followed by your pets either getting bitten by or eating these rodents and getting rabies. Or worse, the rodents bite you in your sleep.


I'd rather not deal with this and force people to pay for proper corpse disposal through a vet.

Errrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr... wow.

:roll: