why is halo considered a great game?

[BoomAM]

Originally posted by: ZimZum
The quality of the ports is irrelevant.

That i am not questioning, but there are several console games with the same name as the PC version, that is a completly different game. You however seem to think that they are the same game.

The fact is most of the games you listed as being "PC exclusives" have versions

Exactely versions. Not the same game.

Are you quitting?? Still no where close to "several hundred".

If you feel the need to continue this endevour of yours then by all means do so. But i and the majority of the forums have better things to do, and more importent things to do in the real world, than argue with someone over a forum.

When did I ever say the PC isn't a good gaming platform?! The whole point of my original argument was the UNIMPORTANCE of exclusives.

Your original arguement implyed that due to lack of exclusives, the PC was not a viable gaming platform compared to console.

You need to work on your reading comprehension.

I can fully comprehend what you`ve written. You could do with learning on how to be a little more diplomatic in your posts, i know several forum members who would have had a flame field day from your above statement.

Like ive said. I`ve got better things to do than to argue with someone over a forum.

 

[jiffylube1024]

Good god, it seems like 20% of the people here liked Halo.

Well, I really *really* am starting to like Halo, a lot. After waiting for the damn thing to come out for PC and abstaining from buying an Xbox for it (one console that I seldom use is plenty, thank you) I am very impressed with the gameplay.

It took me most of the way through the game to really appreciate it, though. At first I was a little underwhelmed like many people are here. I guess I was expecting the game to make my monitor explode or make me soil my trousers or something, but you really can see how well designed the AI is and how nicely the weapons are balanced after playing the game for awhile.

There are so many strategies to playing that game it's incredible. First of all, the two weapon limit is brilliant. This has to be the only (if not one of the only) fps that limits you so severly in primary weapons. However you can still carry a ton of grenades (8) that will save your life time and time again. And please don't chime in that 2 weapons makes the game crap. If you figure out how two guns gan be used together effectively, it makes it all worthwhile. 2 guns is plenty when every guy you kill drops a gun that you can use (but again, it's balanced because most guys carry that crappy charge-up plasma gun. You have to pick and choose the good stuff - Plasma Rifle, etc from the mediocre guns).

What I really like is the variety of ways to play the game. Butting weaker Covenant guys with your gun will kill them instantly (especially when they're distracted or sleeping), and will stun stronger ones. More powerful Covenant guys with shields seem unphased by bullets until their shields are gone, but then bullets really hurt them. However, if you pump a powerful fully-shielded Covenant full of Plasma, each shot keeps him in place (their shields are essentially the same Plasma, after all).

True, the enemy AI isn't going to discover a new element for the periodic table anytime soon, or write a dissertation on 14th century french literature, but it's smart enough to really put the hurt on you once the number of foes you fight picks up. But despite the fact that enemies come in HUGE numbers in higher difficulties, it's not the *endless* ranks of guys that many games throw at you. There's always a finite number of enemies in Halo (except with those messed up "Flood" guys in the last level, which you need to keep coming you they can give you grenades ).

Minutae in Halo is what really makes it great - it's a true sum of it's (well-designed) parts. That and the vehicles. There ought to be a mode to fly a Banshee in every level just for kicks, it's that good. Not to mention all of the other vehicles are utter bliss to drive.

Those who don't like Halo - have you played up to the level with the tank? I found that to be one of the most fun FPS experiences I've ever had. Right up there with like 80% of the levels in Goldeneye (which were all incredible).

 

[ZimZum]

That i am not questioning, but there are several console games with the same name as the PC version, that is a completly different game. You however seem to think that they are the same game

Name them, Unreal Championship is a port of UT 2003. Ports will often be renamed and have certain aspects added or removed to better suit the respective platforms but the fact remains they are still ports.

The PC version of Halo isnt exactly like the Xbox version. Are you going to tell me it isnt the same game?

Exactely versions. Not the same game.

Refer to the above statement

If you feel the need to continue this endevour of yours then by all means do so. But i and the majority of the forums have better things to do, and more importent things to do in the real world, than argue with someone over a forum.

Well, we registered at about the same time and looking at your post count compared to mine it would seem you have plenty of spare time to post nonsense.

Your original arguement implyed that due to lack of exclusives, the PC was not a viable gaming platform compared to console.

Thank you for explaining to me the point of my original argument

The exclusives argument doesn't hold as much weight as it once did as the marketplace has changed. There aren't going to be as many exclusive titles on any platform as there used to be. Multi platform titles are the way the industry is going. Almost all of the games you can get on PC are also available on the consoles. Does this mean the PC isn't a viable gaming platform because of lack of exclusive titles? All the consoles have their individual merits.

Im going to make this as simple as possible for you as it seems you have trouble grasping certain things. The whole point of the above statement was that the lack of exclusives shouldnt be used as a knock against any gaming platform. To which you responded with this rediculous challenge:

I can name several hundred PC games that arnt available on consoles.

Still waiting by the way.

I can fully comprehend what you`ve written. You could do with learning on how to be a little more diplomatic in your posts, i know several forum members who would have had a flame field day from your above statement.

I wasnt the only one who called you on that "several hundred" remark. Diplomatic?! You get in far more arguments around here than I do. I might have originally let you slide had you not made the "Shall i continue to list or should i spare you the embarrassment?" comment. Its bad enough to be wrong but even worse to boast about.

 

[bjc112]

Vehicles and Mutliplayer are the only reasons it a good game..

If they didn't botch the port as bad as they did it would be even better in high res. 60+ constant..

But hell, still ran at a good steady 25-30..

 

[BoomAM]

Originally posted by: ZimZum
Name them, Unreal Championship is a port of UT 2003. Ports will often be renamed and have certain aspects added or removed to better suit the respective platforms but the fact remains they are still ports.

There are quite a few aspects that are different.

The PC version of Halo isnt exactly like the Xbox version. Are you going to tell me it isnt the same game?

Nope. Cos esentially, they are teh same game.

Well, we registered at about the same time and looking at your post count compared to mine it would seem you have plenty of spare time to post nonsense.

This is where i lose confidence in your opinion. By breaking down your argument to is most basic level. Insults.

Im going to make this as simple as possible for you as it seems you have trouble grasping certain things. The whole point of the above statement was that the lack of exclusives shouldnt be used as a knock against any gaming platform. To which you responded with this rediculous challenge:

Its not rediculus. Its a fact. There are hundreds of PC games that are not available on Console. I dont have the time to list them all for you, but if you searched and did your own research, you`d be able to confirm my above statement.

Still waiting by the way.

Oh my god. You are "sad" enough to want me to list all the decent PC games that arnt on console. You are quite childish arnt you?

I wasnt the only one who called you on that "several hundred" remark. Diplomatic?! You get in far more arguments around here than I do. I might have originally let you slide had you not made the "Shall i continue to list or should i spare you the embarrassment?" comment. Its bad enough to be wrong but even worse to boast about.

If you cant take a bit of sarcasm...

Look. You continue arguing, cos ive got hundreds more importent things to do than argue with you.
Its obvious from these few posts between us that neither of us will back down, and we both want the last word. So i suggest we leave it at that.

 

[BenSkywalker]

There are hundreds of PC games that are not available on Console.

I disagree with that, it is easily in the thousands. There are hundreds of games from the early to mid 80s on the PC that never made it to the consoles alone, let alone all the time since then.

 

[Zerohm]

BoomAM, Quit arguing pitty crap. You said that you could name hundreds of PC games that were not evalable on console off the top of your head. Stop debating how crappy the console versions are and start naming 101 PC games that are
1. good and
2. not on console.

I'm not trying to call you out I just want to see the list.

 

[BoomAM]

Originally posted by: BenSkywalker

There are hundreds of PC games that are not available on Console.

I disagree with that, it is easily in the thousands. There are hundreds of games from the early to mid 80s on the PC that never made it to the consoles alone, let alone all the time since then.

Thats what ive been saying.

Originally posted by: Zerohm
BoomAM, Quit arguing pitty crap. You said that you could name hundreds of PC games that were not evalable on console off the top of your head. Stop debating how crappy the console versions are and start naming 101 PC games that are
1. good and
2. not on console.

I'm not trying to call you out I just want to see the list.

Ive named 50+ titles that are completly different to their supposed console varients, but the other guy doesnt seem to recognise them.
And as ive said in my previous post, ive got more importent things to do than list all the games that i can think of that arnt on console, and are good.
And that isnt cos i cant name them, cos i can, its cos i find it a bit petty that you both want a list, and have better things to do with my time.

 

[ZimZum]

Ive named 50+ titles that are completly different to their supposed console varients, but the other guy doesnt seem to recognise them.

No you haven't, you named maybe 9 and some of those were bad games. If game X has been ported then game X cannot be called an exclusive. Don't know why you are having such difficulty understanding this.

And as ive said in my previous post, ive got more importent things to do than list all the games that i can think of that arnt on console, and are good.
And that isnt cos i cant name them, cos i can, its cos i find it a bit petty that you both want a list, and have better things to do with my time

The only thing petty was your original proclamation that you could come up with the list. Now that its obvious that you cant. I am finding your backtracking amusing.

Do you see the irony in writing post after post about how you don't have time to waste by posting?

 

[BoomAM]

Originally posted by: ZimZum
No you haven't, you named maybe 9 and some of those were bad games. If game X has been ported then game X cannot be called an exclusive. Don't know why you are having such difficulty understanding this.

What im saying is that a game can have the same name on console as on PC. But its a completely different game. Look at C&C for N64. Very very different to the PC version, and so, is a seperate game in its own right.

The only thing petty was your original proclamation that you could come up with the list. Now that its obvious that you cant.

But thats the thing though. I could.
Ive named 50+ titles. That are different enough to be classed as a different game than its console varient(where applicable). I could add more, but its a little pointless really, cos its gonna get us no where. I could add another 150 titles, but theres a high chance that you would try and pick apart each title that i put. Which would lead us around in circles wouldnt it?

I am finding your backtracking amusing.

Its a bit "sad" that you find that amusing.

Do you see the irony in writing post after post about how you don't have time to waste by posting?

Two things. Its weekend so ive got time to do other things. And i would stop arguing, but im a very stubbern person.

 

[ZimZum]

What im saying is that a game can have the same name on console as on PC. But its a completely different game. Look at C&C for N64. Very very different to the PC version, and so, is a seperate game in its own right.

I havent played the N64 version but C&C on the Sega Saturn is Not a completely different game. As ports go its as good as it gets. But even if it was a lousy port it wouldnt negate the fact that C&C is not an exclusive.

But thats the thing though. I could.
Ive named 50+ titles. That are different enough to be classed as a different game than its console varient(where applicable). I could add more, but its a little pointless really, cos its gonna get us no where. I could add another 150 titles, but theres a high chance that you would try and pick apart each title that i put. Which would lead us around in circles wouldnt it?

Hardly, you haven't and you cant, If you could you would have done so by now. However you are correct about one thing. I would pick the list apart as I am sure like your previously failed attempt it would be mainly composed of games that have been or will be ported. Which as I have stated fits neither my nor anyone else I knows definition of an exclusive.

Its a bit "sad" that you find that amusing

At least you admit youre backtracking.

Two things. Its weekend so ive got time to do other things. And i would stop arguing, but im a very stubbern person.

But not enough time to come up with the list of course? I gathered that your were stubborn about 30 posts ago.
At this point I think you're just trying to get the last word in, dream on.

 

[BoomAM]

Look. Ive lost interest now.
You can argue all you want on the matter, but the simple facts are 1) i could, if i wanted to, come up with the list, and 2) cannot be arsed arguing anymore as its leading us around in circles, and its obvious that we are both very stubbern people, and neither will back down. So lets just leave it shall we? And get back to discussing Halo, like what the thread topic is titled.