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CVSiN

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Originally posted by: loup garou
Originally posted by: CVSiN
Originally posted by: loup garou
Originally posted by: CVSiN
Originally posted by: loup garou
Originally posted by: CVSiN
Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: CVSiN

thats funny I had a DS for about 6 months.. and I found it to be nthe most worthless handheld Id ever had...

id take an Atari Lynx over this POS...

the PSP i traded it on was way better... too bad neither one has any "great" games.

What games did you try on the DS?

Well i bought metroid. the sims game...mario (my only launch day title)...need for speed.. and rented a few others..
You bought your DS on launch (Nov 04), had it for 6 months, but somehow managed to buy (not play the demo that came with it) Metroid (Mar 06) for it? Something doesn't add up here. :confused:

yes i played the demo that came with all DS's...
whats so hard to beleive? it was a standard pack in..

Yeah, nice try.

huh?

nice try at what?

are you saying that now demos are not a valid reprsentation of games?
if so i guess the entire premise is a waste of time and programmer resources..

if i dont like a demo im most likely not gonna like the full product so why on earth would I buy it?
that goes for ANY game..
Gee, I don't know, why DID you buy it then?

Um I didnt... I played the demo that came with my DS.. he asked what games I tried..

and a demo counts as trying a game..


 

DivideBYZero

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Originally posted by: torpid
Originally posted by: CVSiN
I dont like ANY of the games you posted.. none even attract me..
I detest japanese style games... Final Fantasy is crap mario cart is not my cup of tea... prefer real cars (gran tourismo or PGR style) mario bros was fun when I was 15 not now at 35..
dont like any of the other games on your list... i also tried the sims when it was new on the DS as well as thier version of need for speed and metriod... did not like any of them..

I just dont like Nintendos or the Japanese style of games at all.. maybe this is why I tend to like the Xbox and 360 so much.. mostly american style of games..

Well, I have this theory that people who spend a great deal of time consuming a particular media go through stages of appreciation / criticism. It's very evident in movies and video games to me. I haven't fully fleshed out the details of the early interest, but needless to say in both cases you end up in cycles of addiction / interest.

Novice games often end up appreciating the same games as really hardened veterans. You seem to be at the stage where you can still appreciate slight variations on the same theme and style of game. A lot of people seem to never get beyond this stage, and boy do I wish I was still there. It's incredibly difficult for me to play any game more than 3 hours because I feel like it's the same game I've played 200 times before with different graphcis, sounds, and if I'm lucky, storyline.

Some of us have progressed to this next stage of addiction, where we have played so many games in so many variations that we get more mental stimulation from watching a cat walk around the apartment than from most games. This is the "roger ebert" stage, because that's where he seems/seemed to be at. A game might be interesting to us just for a particular facet of it. Like maybe a well done cut scene, or (in the example of company of heroes) being able to set unit facing in an RTS. But games are meant to be played for a while, and the appeal of the small variation fades after a short while. Ebert does this with some movies, where he likes one aspect of the film and if he were to answer honestly the question, "but how can you ignore all the other cliched crap?" he would respond, "I've seen so many movies that almost everything is cliched crap at this point, so I get excited by small things that make cliched crap stand out"

At this stage, a game that interests us for more than a week comes out once or twice a year, if we are lucky. Games that involve a different physical or mental technique are very interesting to us, because it feels like something totally different even if it's the same exact game with a new control scheme. Graphics and sound start to become less important. Being able to play with other people is often an important feature.

So I don't mind if mario tennis looks like moronic cartoons. Heck, I'd play a dora the explorer game if it were a unique gameplay experience. In fact, and this is a sad truth about video games these days, having watched dora the explorer, I'd say it's probably more mentally stimulating than almost every video game I've played this year.

:thumbsup:
 

CVSiN

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Originally posted by: DivideBYZero
Originally posted by: torpid
Originally posted by: CVSiN
I dont like ANY of the games you posted.. none even attract me..
I detest japanese style games... Final Fantasy is crap mario cart is not my cup of tea... prefer real cars (gran tourismo or PGR style) mario bros was fun when I was 15 not now at 35..
dont like any of the other games on your list... i also tried the sims when it was new on the DS as well as thier version of need for speed and metriod... did not like any of them..

I just dont like Nintendos or the Japanese style of games at all.. maybe this is why I tend to like the Xbox and 360 so much.. mostly american style of games..

Well, I have this theory that people who spend a great deal of time consuming a particular media go through stages of appreciation / criticism. It's very evident in movies and video games to me. I haven't fully fleshed out the details of the early interest, but needless to say in both cases you end up in cycles of addiction / interest.

Novice games often end up appreciating the same games as really hardened veterans. You seem to be at the stage where you can still appreciate slight variations on the same theme and style of game. A lot of people seem to never get beyond this stage, and boy do I wish I was still there. It's incredibly difficult for me to play any game more than 3 hours because I feel like it's the same game I've played 200 times before with different graphcis, sounds, and if I'm lucky, storyline.

Some of us have progressed to this next stage of addiction, where we have played so many games in so many variations that we get more mental stimulation from watching a cat walk around the apartment than from most games. This is the "roger ebert" stage, because that's where he seems/seemed to be at. A game might be interesting to us just for a particular facet of it. Like maybe a well done cut scene, or (in the example of company of heroes) being able to set unit facing in an RTS. But games are meant to be played for a while, and the appeal of the small variation fades after a short while. Ebert does this with some movies, where he likes one aspect of the film and if he were to answer honestly the question, "but how can you ignore all the other cliched crap?" he would respond, "I've seen so many movies that almost everything is cliched crap at this point, so I get excited by small things that make cliched crap stand out"

At this stage, a game that interests us for more than a week comes out once or twice a year, if we are lucky. Games that involve a different physical or mental technique are very interesting to us, because it feels like something totally different even if it's the same exact game with a new control scheme. Graphics and sound start to become less important. Being able to play with other people is often an important feature.

So I don't mind if mario tennis looks like moronic cartoons. Heck, I'd play a dora the explorer game if it were a unique gameplay experience. In fact, and this is a sad truth about video games these days, having watched dora the explorer, I'd say it's probably more mentally stimulating than almost every video game I've played this year.

:thumbsup:

thats a great post... and I see what youre saying.
I do find myself not liking games or genres I once loved..
Ive lost all patience with MMOs as a whole including my beloved wow..

I cant seem to want to sit and focus on them the way I used to..
I seem to only be playing very few games now.. hell I bought Company of Heroes just a week ago and Im already to the bordom stage..

maybe I'm just kinda really growing out of this...

I dunno.
 

Chryso

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I am amazed by the people who think you will have to stand up to use the new nintendo controller. How do you think the controller is going to know if you are standing or sitting? All I can imagine it being able to detect is movement up, down and side to side.
 

BD2003

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Originally posted by: CVSiN
Originally posted by: DivideBYZero
Originally posted by: torpid
Originally posted by: CVSiN
I dont like ANY of the games you posted.. none even attract me..
I detest japanese style games... Final Fantasy is crap mario cart is not my cup of tea... prefer real cars (gran tourismo or PGR style) mario bros was fun when I was 15 not now at 35..
dont like any of the other games on your list... i also tried the sims when it was new on the DS as well as thier version of need for speed and metriod... did not like any of them..

I just dont like Nintendos or the Japanese style of games at all.. maybe this is why I tend to like the Xbox and 360 so much.. mostly american style of games..

Well, I have this theory that people who spend a great deal of time consuming a particular media go through stages of appreciation / criticism. It's very evident in movies and video games to me. I haven't fully fleshed out the details of the early interest, but needless to say in both cases you end up in cycles of addiction / interest.

Novice games often end up appreciating the same games as really hardened veterans. You seem to be at the stage where you can still appreciate slight variations on the same theme and style of game. A lot of people seem to never get beyond this stage, and boy do I wish I was still there. It's incredibly difficult for me to play any game more than 3 hours because I feel like it's the same game I've played 200 times before with different graphcis, sounds, and if I'm lucky, storyline.

Some of us have progressed to this next stage of addiction, where we have played so many games in so many variations that we get more mental stimulation from watching a cat walk around the apartment than from most games. This is the "roger ebert" stage, because that's where he seems/seemed to be at. A game might be interesting to us just for a particular facet of it. Like maybe a well done cut scene, or (in the example of company of heroes) being able to set unit facing in an RTS. But games are meant to be played for a while, and the appeal of the small variation fades after a short while. Ebert does this with some movies, where he likes one aspect of the film and if he were to answer honestly the question, "but how can you ignore all the other cliched crap?" he would respond, "I've seen so many movies that almost everything is cliched crap at this point, so I get excited by small things that make cliched crap stand out"

At this stage, a game that interests us for more than a week comes out once or twice a year, if we are lucky. Games that involve a different physical or mental technique are very interesting to us, because it feels like something totally different even if it's the same exact game with a new control scheme. Graphics and sound start to become less important. Being able to play with other people is often an important feature.

So I don't mind if mario tennis looks like moronic cartoons. Heck, I'd play a dora the explorer game if it were a unique gameplay experience. In fact, and this is a sad truth about video games these days, having watched dora the explorer, I'd say it's probably more mentally stimulating than almost every video game I've played this year.

:thumbsup:

thats a great post... and I see what youre saying.
I do find myself not liking games or genres I once loved..
Ive lost all patience with MMOs as a whole including my beloved wow..

I cant seem to want to sit and focus on them the way I used to..
I seem to only be playing very few games now.. hell I bought Company of Heroes just a week ago and Im already to the bordom stage..

maybe I'm just kinda really growing out of this...

I dunno.

You're not growing out of it - it's just stagnant.

There was a huge jump graphical and control jump between 2d and 3d, and a pretty decent graphical jump between the 1st gen 3d and the 2nd gen 3d. The biggest innovation is the proliferation of online play, but in the end, we're still playing the same games, just against each other.

The difference between the 2nd and 3rd gen is relatively minor. Sure, the systems are that much more powerful, but in terms of actual presentation, it is only slightly better. Textures are sharper, everything looks a little more real.

But control hasnt changed much in the past ten years. The last real innovation was the analog stick. There has been precious little innovation in the past few years.

What were some of the most popular games of recent times? Rhythm games - DDR, Guitar hero. Guitar hero wouldn't be half as fun if you played it with a controller. It's fun because the controller is a guitar. The wii is essentially doing the same thing, just on a whole new scale. It's the only real innovation we've seen in the past 10 years.
 

Tobolo

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WHY? I'll tell you why!

Cause only with nintendo can you say WIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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I think the Wii will outsell both the PS3 and Xbox360 combined. How can I tell? Everyone I've showed the E3 videos to, from my 3 year old niece to my female roommate (and my mom and my dad) have said "woaw... I'd like to try that out. Pretty graphics? Meh, casual gamers don't care. Mom and pop don't care. Geeks on forums care but they represent a tiny portion of the buying public. I bet a mom or dad will be in E.B. shopping for a christmas gift and will see someone demoing Wii Sports. In the back of they're mind they'll think "woaw.. that golf game looks like a lot of fun!" They'll pick it up for their kids christmas gift while planning on putting the kids to bed early so that they can play with it themselves.

I'm not a gamer - FPS give me headaches and I don't have the time for RPGs. But I own a Gamecube and nothing is more fun than getting drunk and playing mario kart or super smash brothers with my pals. DDR is a hell of a lot fun too and I'm most certainly buying a wii - not because of the tech but because, frankly, it looks like a lot of freaking fun. I have an HDTV and the cube looks fine enough for me. 480p will be adequate - if I want to be blown away by high tech cgi and 1080i resolution then I'll watch the matrix on my upscaling dvd player.
 

Maximilian

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Originally posted by: freedomsbeat212
I think the Wii will outsell both the PS3 and Xbox360 combined. How can I tell? Everyone I've showed the E3 videos to, from my 3 year old niece to my female roommate (and my mom and my dad) have said "woaw... I'd like to try that out. Pretty graphics? Meh, casual gamers don't care. Mom and pop don't care. Geeks on forums care but they represent a tiny portion of the buying public. I bet a mom or dad will be in E.B. shopping for a christmas gift and will see someone demoing Wii Sports. In the back of they're mind they'll think "woaw.. that golf game looks like a lot of fun!" They'll pick it up for their kids christmas gift while planning on putting the kids to bed early so that they can play with it themselves.

I'm not a gamer - FPS give me headaches and I don't have the time for RPGs. But I own a Gamecube and nothing is more fun than getting drunk and playing mario kart or super smash brothers with my pals. DDR is a hell of a lot fun too and I'm most certainly buying a wii - not because of the tech but because, frankly, it looks like a lot of freaking fun. I have an HDTV and the cube looks fine enough for me. 480p will be adequate - if I want to be blown away by high tech cgi and 1080i resolution then I'll watch the matrix on my upscaling dvd player.

That sounds like the sh1t! my official console for my new flat in the future, will be a WIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII!!
 

voodoodrul

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Originally posted by: torpid
Originally posted by: CVSiN
I dont like ANY of the games you posted.. none even attract me..
I detest japanese style games... Final Fantasy is crap mario cart is not my cup of tea... prefer real cars (gran tourismo or PGR style) mario bros was fun when I was 15 not now at 35..
dont like any of the other games on your list... i also tried the sims when it was new on the DS as well as thier version of need for speed and metriod... did not like any of them..

I just dont like Nintendos or the Japanese style of games at all.. maybe this is why I tend to like the Xbox and 360 so much.. mostly american style of games..

Well, I have this theory that people who spend a great deal of time consuming a particular media go through stages of appreciation / criticism. It's very evident in movies and video games to me. I haven't fully fleshed out the details of the early interest, but needless to say in both cases you end up in cycles of addiction / interest.

Novice games often end up appreciating the same games as really hardened veterans. You seem to be at the stage where you can still appreciate slight variations on the same theme and style of game. A lot of people seem to never get beyond this stage, and boy do I wish I was still there. It's incredibly difficult for me to play any game more than 3 hours because I feel like it's the same game I've played 200 times before with different graphcis, sounds, and if I'm lucky, storyline.

Some of us have progressed to this next stage of addiction, where we have played so many games in so many variations that we get more mental stimulation from watching a cat walk around the apartment than from most games. This is the "roger ebert" stage, because that's where he seems/seemed to be at. A game might be interesting to us just for a particular facet of it. Like maybe a well done cut scene, or (in the example of company of heroes) being able to set unit facing in an RTS. But games are meant to be played for a while, and the appeal of the small variation fades after a short while. Ebert does this with some movies, where he likes one aspect of the film and if he were to answer honestly the question, "but how can you ignore all the other cliched crap?" he would respond, "I've seen so many movies that almost everything is cliched crap at this point, so I get excited by small things that make cliched crap stand out"

At this stage, a game that interests us for more than a week comes out once or twice a year, if we are lucky. Games that involve a different physical or mental technique are very interesting to us, because it feels like something totally different even if it's the same exact game with a new control scheme. Graphics and sound start to become less important. Being able to play with other people is often an important feature.

So I don't mind if mario tennis looks like moronic cartoons. Heck, I'd play a dora the explorer game if it were a unique gameplay experience. In fact, and this is a sad truth about video games these days, having watched dora the explorer, I'd say it's probably more mentally stimulating than almost every video game I've played this year.

EXACTLY! I couldn't think of any better way to put this. This is exactly the way I have been thinking for years.. I almost thought I had adult ADD or something because I couldn't stay focused for more than 20 minutes on any game..

And guess what.. Playing Super Mario Sunshine with my 5 year old is a million times more fun than playing on my new Core 2 Duo box with 7950GX2.

Gamecube/Wii FTW
 

saahmed

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I think it was after they announced the new name for it that they came out with the features and the control mechanism. If not, hype always goes up as the release of a console nears, especially if it sounds as good as the Wii with that awesome wiimote.
 

imported_Trippin315

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Originally posted by: MisterJackson
Originally posted by: Lonyo
Because it's a little bit country, and it's a little bit rock 'n' roll.

It's business in the front, party in the back.....Wii....the mullet of the consoles!

Because it plays both types of music. Country and Western.
 

sandorski

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Ah, that's WTF it is! I've been seeing "WII" this and "WII" that and having no clue what was being talked about.

<<<<<< not a console gamer
 

mugs

Lifer
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Originally posted by: saahmed
I think it was after they announced the new name for it that they came out with the features and the control mechanism. If not, hype always goes up as the release of a console nears, especially if it sounds as good as the Wii with that awesome wiimote.

They announced it well before that, but right after the name was announced was when people were first able to play it, and people were lining up for hours to play it.
 

ColdFusion718

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Originally posted by: CVSiN
Originally posted by: jpeyton
Originally posted by: CVSiN
thats funny I had a DS for about 6 months.. and I found it to be nthe most worthless handheld Id ever had...

id take an Atari Lynx over this POS...

the PSP i traded it on was way better... too bad neither one has any "great" games.

That must be why the DS was outselling the PSP 9:1 over the last few months in Japan, and 2:1 in the US. I guess gamers around the world have it all backwards.

just becasue little kiddies buy it in droves doesnt make it a better system.. the PSP is not aimed at kiddies and has the pricetag and the games to prove it..

I would never buy my child a PSP too delicate for children but I'll sure as heck buy them a DS virtually indestructable with good kiddy games.. that and the enormous old library of compatible games sells systems..

Me I prefer the movies.. music, pictures, the wireless internet and the more adult like games that the PSP offers.. even if none of them are spectacular either.. but id rather play burnout on the PSP over mariocart on the kiddy DS..

I owned a PSP and sold it. If I want to surf the web, I will use my computer, which has a 30" LCD monitor on it. If I want to watch a movie, I'll do it on my TV in the living room.

If I want to listen to music, I'll use the 7.1 sound system or my ipod. If I'm traveling and I want to watch movies, I'll buy a portable DVD player or use my Powerbook.

The DS has some very unique games that the ones on the PSP just cannot compare with.

But to each their own. :)
 

AbAbber2k

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Originally posted by: ColdFusion718
Originally posted by: CVSiN
Originally posted by: jpeyton
Originally posted by: CVSiN
thats funny I had a DS for about 6 months.. and I found it to be nthe most worthless handheld Id ever had...

id take an Atari Lynx over this POS...

the PSP i traded it on was way better... too bad neither one has any "great" games.

That must be why the DS was outselling the PSP 9:1 over the last few months in Japan, and 2:1 in the US. I guess gamers around the world have it all backwards.

just becasue little kiddies buy it in droves doesnt make it a better system.. the PSP is not aimed at kiddies and has the pricetag and the games to prove it..

I would never buy my child a PSP too delicate for children but I'll sure as heck buy them a DS virtually indestructable with good kiddy games.. that and the enormous old library of compatible games sells systems..

Me I prefer the movies.. music, pictures, the wireless internet and the more adult like games that the PSP offers.. even if none of them are spectacular either.. but id rather play burnout on the PSP over mariocart on the kiddy DS..

I owned a PSP and sold it. If I want to surf the web, I will use my computer, which has a 30" LCD monitor on it. If I want to watch a movie, I'll do it on my TV in the living room.

If I want to listen to music, I'll use the 7.1 sound system or my ipod. If I'm traveling and I want to watch movies, I'll buy a portable DVD player or use my Powerbook.

The DS has some very unique games that the ones on the PSP just cannot compare with.

But to each their own. :)

lol, no sh1t. I've got a friend who's always buying new cell phones and showing them off. He's like, "check it out I've got this song and this episode of Family Guy on my phone."

"Oh ya? Let me go turn on the bigscreen and the CD changer..."

:roll:

When a handheld game system, PDA, cell phone, etc actually sounds/looks as good as the real thing, then maybe I'll give a sh1t about all those extra "features."
 

loup garou

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Of course, since celebration moves are also FreeMotion you might be inclined to get into them. Just don't say we didn't warn you when you get decked while twirling the Wii Remote around your head.
LMAO, I may just have to buy my first copy of Madden since PS1 days.