Why is AMD better than Intel?

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DAPUNISHER

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Hey chemhaqr don't go scaring me off by using words like P4 :Q I haven't owned an Intel since the socket7 days and this Celery looks to be just what I've been hoping for from Intel price/performance wise to get me to build a box with them "inside"! As to the mem bandwidth I agree it's not everything but it is an issuse when it comes down to it and Sandra CPU benchies aren't everything either, ya know? Anyways, I appreciate you exposing me to the data as if not for your crusade to enlighten us AMD fanatics I wouldn't be aware of the value and overclockability of some Intel platforms as the only ones I crack open are OEM's.
 

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I would expect the XP 1600+ @ 1600MHz to beat the celery in most real world benchies but I bet it ain't gonna be by much. My problem is I have never owned a AMD system yet but when their .13u chips come out I think I am going to defect;) I only want a good stable platform not a gaming behemouth that every so often locks up on me or crashes you know.

Yeah I am sure I am calling out the wolves with that statement but I have been told by many a AMD zeolots that the AMD 760 chipset is the way to go for any one really concerned about absolute stability and I have owned a VIA chipset before and it scared the PISS outa me.

I couldn't find any reason for my system to be crashing at stock speed. RMA'd it to get a BX board and all was well. It is shi# like that makes you not wanna switch you know. I would be writting a paper or using molecular modeling software and all of a sudden BAM it would go. Yes I did set it up right it was something about that board and maybe VIA is changing for the better which I am sure they are but I will not use a VIA Northbridge board. Not even the KT266a. I would rather use the 760 but that is me. Now if all I did was surf and game the KT266a would most likely blow my top but I am not so I want stability but I want it too be quick about it;)

Hopefullywe will see a AMD 770 chipset but I have heard from many it is going to be vaporware. Would also like to see the south bridge made by AMD too but I guess even AMD finds a way to bend you over sometimes too eh.
 

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Hey also it seems the best board at the moment for the celery is the ST6. Not sure if you know that...my advice since I am a intel fanatic and all....Also if the BD133u allows you to use the 1/4 multi under 133fsb then that may be a good option too. I am rma'n a tusl-2. Not a good IMHO yet. Needs work still or something. I have seen that be the buggiest board so far for these celeries. Soemtimes it has ran the L2 cache at 1/2 speed for some or for me my Aux voltages were at 1.7~1.9v. Not good since the new FCPGA2 uses a 1.25 Aux or AGTL if I am not mistaken. All I know is that on my ST6 my Aux voltage is at 1.25v which is also the new AGTL standard over the old AGTL+ @ 1.5v like the PIII cumine were. I think the board couldn't tell the difference and was running the AGTL voltage at 1.7~1.9v which caused problems like too much heat. You may get a chip that runs like mine right at 1600MHz no more no less in that case the TUSL-2 would suck as you would have to run it at 120FSB as the highest cause the chipset configuration doesn't like anything over that FSB with a 1/3 divider and there is no 133fsb setting with the TUSL-2 only 134fsb when set to 133sb in the bios or with the dippies . Not sure why it is like that but it is.