Why don't you carry a gun?

[alkemyst]

So you don't go to drug stores, grocery stores, gas stations, restaurants, malls, or stop at any traffic lights for fear of being carjacked, or to your living room to watch TV?

I live in a small city that most 'think' is safe, yet there are several armed home invasions a month, pharmacies are robbed more and more often for drugs, the latest where a customer was grabbed as a hostage, etc. etc.

I'm too old to fight even a 6' 20 year old, even though I'm 6', and sure as hell can outrun them, but they can't outrun a .40S&W 180 grain hollow point round.

I used the cost as an excuse for far too long, but looking back it wasn't a wise choice, even though I was never a victim, while I was ignoring my responsibility to protect my family. I demanded they wear seat-belts (before it was law), and always had working smoke detectors and extinguishers in the home, but nothing to defend against an armed intruder. You seldom get a 'do over' with any of these.

A SMALL CITY with SEVERAL home invasions a month is not a safe place to be.

I don't see pharmacies robbed as much as vet clinics or someone following someone from a pain clinic and getting them when they come out of a pharmacy.

 

[MtnMan]

A SMALL CITY with SEVERAL home invasions a month is not a safe place to be.

I don't see pharmacies robbed as much as vet clinics or someone following someone from a pain clinic and getting them when they come out of a pharmacy.

With due respect, perhaps you should probably pay closer attention. Many don't make the evening news anymore unless someone is hurt, or as recently kidnapped a 14 year old because they didn't get enough money.

There are many factors, a bad economy, unemployment, and drugs are pretty universal across the country.

There are also those the deny that the drug problem doesn't exist in their fair city, when the drug problem is often the driving force behind much of the property and violent crime in every city and town in the country.

 

[mrwindta]

just adding my bit...don't own one myself nor have i ever, but i can understand having one for your home especially if you live alone.Though it would be useless if guys bust through your door waving guns, as someone stated had happened. I think if you were carrying a gun and got mugged it wouldn't make the situation better either. You would have to wait until the mugging is over with, then pull your gun as they try to escape lol. Noone wants to be robbed but having a gun pulled on you and then reaching for your gun could result in certain death 75% of the time.

 

[JulesMaximus]

So you don't go to drug stores, grocery stores, gas stations, restaurants, malls, or stop at any traffic lights for fear of being carjacked, or to your living room to watch TV?

I live in a small city that most 'think' is safe, yet there are several armed home invasions a month, pharmacies are robbed more and more often for drugs, the latest where a customer was grabbed as a hostage, etc. etc.

I'm too old to fight even a 6' 20 year old, even though I'm 6', and sure as hell can outrun them, but they can't outrun a .40S&W 180 grain hollow point round.

I used the cost as an excuse for far too long, but looking back it wasn't a wise choice, even though I was never a victim, while I was ignoring my responsibility to protect my family. I demanded they wear seat-belts (before it was law), and always had working smoke detectors and extinguishers in the home, but nothing to defend against an armed intruder. You seldom get a 'do over' with any of these.

So, you're gonna shoot someone in the back who is running away from you? Kind of hard to prove self defense in that situation...

Your last paragraph is laughable. So anyone who doesn't carry a concealed weapon isn't responsible and doesn't care about their family? And before anyone screams strawman, read his comments first. He's pretty much implying this.

It's a good thing these two dumbfucks (both CCW holders) were armed. Now they're both dead. Kind of hard to provide for your family when you're dead.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/09/19/michigan-concealed-carry-road-rage-two-dead_n_3956491.html

 

[cmdrdredd]

So, you're gonna shoot someone in the back who is running away from you? Kind of hard to prove self defense in that situation...

Your last paragraph is laughable. So anyone who doesn't carry a concealed weapon isn't responsible and doesn't care about their family? And before anyone screams strawman, read his comments first. He's pretty much implying this.

It's a good thing these two dumbfucks (both CCW holders) were armed. Now they're both dead. Kind of hard to provide for your family when you're dead.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/09/19/michigan-concealed-carry-road-rage-two-dead_n_3956491.html

Your post is predictable and quite typical of the types of knee jerk reaction liberals of today. You took everything in the quoted post out of context and tagged on sensationalism.

 

[cmdrdredd]

just adding my bit...don't own one myself nor have i ever, but i can understand having one for your home especially if you live alone.Though it would be useless if guys bust through your door waving guns, as someone stated had happened. I think if you were carrying a gun and got mugged it wouldn't make the situation better either. You would have to wait until the mugging is over with, then pull your gun as they try to escape lol. Noone wants to be robbed but having a gun pulled on you and then reaching for your gun could result in certain death 75% of the time.

The thing is you can't just own a gun and keep it in the drawer. You need to train with it and practice good situational awareness. People who are victims of muggings are usually the types who either are oblivious to what is going on around them and who is watching them or they just believe everyone is inherently good which is just not the case. The ones who make easy targets are the ones who become the victim most times. You have to train yourself to be aware and have a plan if something happened in the home. I'm not talking about building a safe room etc but to have a plan for the family, an exit strategy if it is at all possible. My home was broken into before and I will tell you a secret, it doesn't happen like the movies where they kick the door down in one hit and rush in. You have to pry the frame apart etc. It is a long process if there is no window to enter through. So you have time to react. Although we have impact windows for hurricanes that you can't smash easily.

 

[olds]

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People spend way too much time worrying about and preparing for shit that probably will never happen.

I guess it depends on your definition of "worrying".

Am I worried about it or do I think a home invasion or burglary will happen while we are home? No. I don't think either will happen. But if it does guess who's prepared?

And preparation is fun. We take our guns out and shoot. Usually we make a day of it. We take a lunch and some rakes and garbage bags and drive out to the woods. Set up our targets (we don't shoot trees, rocks, etc) and have fun. We have shooting competitions and do some accuracy drills. Talk about backstops, etc.

Afterwards we have lunch and then clean up the mess left by others and head home. Occasionally, we'll go to the local range and rent some different guns just for fun.

At home, at random I may take a weapon, hand it to the wife and drill her and how to load, unload, make safe etc. It's empowering to know (as Waggy said) that if some 6'5" meth head came busting through the door that my wife could (and would) put him on his back with a twitch of her index finger.

Area we shoot in, who doesn't want to be here:

 

[skyking]

The OP's question was "why don't you carry a gun". How about getting back on topic, everyone?
I can find gun packing threads all over the net. It is refreshing to see one about not gun packing and why.

 

[cmdrdredd]

The OP's question was "why don't you carry a gun". How about getting back on topic, everyone?
I can find gun packing threads all over the net. It is refreshing to see one about not gun packing and why.

I can find people who want to post a topic designed to troll as well. This is what you get when you make topics that have only one purpose and it isn't to have a conversation. It's to directly call people out which is unfair to both sides of a topic. I don't call people out who don't carry or don't own a firearm. It's their choice and I defend their choice by carrying as much as possible. Then you have people saying stupid things about penis size and no need. Since when has need ever had any bearing on someone's choice? You don't have to drive a $100k Aston Martin or a $200k Ferrari but there are people who do because they can and they have the ability to do so. Further, some of us like to be prepared. Rather have it and never need it than need it and not have it. It's also not an inconvenience to me, it's rather comforting to know I have the ability to defend myself or my family should the need ever arise. I don't go looking for trouble, but if trouble finds me I will do my utmost to be ready for it. It's a little like the people here in South FL who rush out in panic mode when a hurricane comes. Meanwhile we're stocked up and ready with generators and all. Never have to rush out and panic because there are no batteries left.

 

[skyking]

If you take the bait, you can find offense anywhere. I figured out how to ignore the peenor size comments back in grade school.

If you want to comment about why you do carry, start a thread about it. I am sure you can share some good reasons and ideas there.

 

[olds]

If you take the bait, you can find offense anywhere. I figured out how to ignore the peenor size comments back in grade school...

That's something a person with a little dick would say.

 

[cmdrdredd]

If you take the bait, you can find offense anywhere. I figured out how to ignore the peenor size comments back in grade school.

If you want to comment about why you do carry, start a thread about it. I am sure you can share some good reasons and ideas there.

So in your mind it's ok to be insulting if it lines up with your narrow view? That's just dandy ain't it?

 

[JulesMaximus]

Your post is predictable and quite typical of the types of knee jerk reaction liberals of today. You took everything in the quoted post out of context and tagged on sensationalism.

Except I'm not a liberal and I am a gun owner.

 

[MtnMan]

People spend way too much time worrying about and preparing for shit that probably will never happen.

Right.............. :$

 

[xj0hnx]

The OP's question was "why don't you carry a gun". How about getting back on topic, everyone?
I can find gun packing threads all over the net. It is refreshing to see one about not gun packing and why.

Because it's a dumb question, with only two answers, either they don't want to, or can't.

 

[sixone]

So in your mind it's ok to be insulting if it lines up with your narrow view? That's just dandy ain't it?

Looks like he's saying it's time to put on your big boy pants and ignore people when you think they're trolling.

 

[olds]

Looks like he's saying it's time to put on your big boy pants and ignore people when you think they're trolling.

The problem is he's also trying to dictate the conversation in an Off Topic thread. Go to a tech forum if you want on topic conversations.

 

[Fritzo]

I have no need to.

/thread.

Same.

 

[JulesMaximus]

The OP's question was "why don't you carry a gun". How about getting back on topic, everyone?
I can find gun packing threads all over the net. It is refreshing to see one about not gun packing and why.

:thumbsup: I don't pack because I really don't want the hassle or responsibility. There just isn't any benefit to me carrying a gun daily. I've been alive for more years than I care to admit and never been in a situation where a gun would have been necessary.

Plus, it is nearly impossible to get a concealed carry permit where I live so only the criminals have guns I guess. :shrug:

 

[JulesMaximus]

Because it's a dumb question, with only two answers, either they don't want to, or can't.

Or both.

 

[taq8ojh]

If I ever get a permit for a gun (and permit for a permit from my wife ), I would 99,9% keep it at home, because I strongly believe it's pretty useless if something bad happens anyway, mostly because 1) normal people don't have the training and reflexes of military, law enforcement or the like, and 2) when something bad enough that'd justify pulling a gun out happens, it's usually so quick and so surprising you don't have time to react anyway.

 

[JulesMaximus]

Right.............. :$

That is a stupid fucking comparison and I never said we don't need guns because we have cops.

 

[skyking]

That's something a person with a little dick would say.

 

[skyking]

Because it's a dumb question, with only two answers, either they don't want to, or can't.

Don't want to is a bit more complex than that. I had a permit and choose not to for the reasons I stated. I think I answered the OP's question effectively, and did not cast aspersions on anybody here.

 

[MtnMan]

just adding my bit...don't own one myself nor have i ever, but i can understand having one for your home especially if you live alone.Though it would be useless if guys bust through your door waving guns, as someone stated had happened. I think if you were carrying a gun and got mugged it wouldn't make the situation better either. You would have to wait until the mugging is over with, then pull your gun as they try to escape lol. Noone wants to be robbed but having a gun pulled on you and then reaching for your gun could result in certain death 75% of the time.

The gun in the hand of a bad guy is used to intimidate the victim into complying with his demands, and unless they are strung out on something have no intent to shoot, just intimidate.

When the victim immediately draws and fires, the bad guy still hasn't had time to react to the reality that his intended victim is armed and actively shooting. That reaction time gives the advantage to the intended victim.

The bad guy probably doesn't train with their gun either, and will be less able to place rounds where they want them. I train to put two rounds center mass, follow by two rounds to the head if needed.

Or the guy is totally strung out on something and is going to shoot anyway, and that is why I carry with critical defense rounds, in my defensive guns, for those that won't stop until you have broken their body to the point they can't do anything but fall down.