Why dont people who overdose get jailed?

[BUTCH1]

And I am surprised, well not actually, people feel that there is no need of professional responsibility, you can do drugs as much as you want and when shit hits the fan other people will pay for your week being.
What I don't understand is if government has to pay for your entertainment, why can government control it?

What is a "week being"?, someone with a one-week lifespan?.

 

[master_shake_]

http://mic.com/articles/110344/14-y...riminalized-all-drugs-here-s-what-s-happening

on the other end of the spectrum look how well portugal is doing now that all drugs are de-criminalized.

but no the war on drugs is totally working....as intended.

Portugal decriminalized the use of all drugs in 2001. Weed, cocaine, heroin, you name it -- Portugal decided to treat possession and use of small quantities of these drugs as a public health issue, not a criminal one. The drugs were still illegal, of course. But now getting caught with them meant a small fine and maybe a referral to a treatment program -- not jail time and a criminal record.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...anyone-dies-from-a-drug-overdose-in-portugal/

but america doens't want to fix public health. just fill up prisons.

also

Whenever we debate similar measures in the U.S. -- marijuana decriminalization, for instance -- many drug-policy makers predict dire consequences. “If you make any attractive commodity available at lower cost, you will have more users," former Office of National Drug Control Policy deputy director Thomas McLellan once said of Portugal's policies. Joseph Califano, founder of the Center for Addiction and Substance Abuse at Columbia University, once warned that decriminalization would "increase illegal drug availability and use among our children."

EL OH EL

 

[John Connor]

Great counterargument. Dumbass.

Fuck you latter.

 

[Darwin333]

But... but, don't you get it? He was a filthy criminal who should be shown no quarter, especially on a second offense. And the drugs, man. You know how many children have their lives ruin because of the drugs on the street? Youth join gangs and blah blah blah... drugs are evil, criminals are worse! He obviously should be incarcerated for life!

Ironically he was paying child support. Key world being "was", I never knew his ex or his kids but it's easy to believe that they were forced to jump on entitlements since they lost both insurance for the kids and child support. More money from the government to get that really scary bad horribly dangerous menace to society off the streets. Yeah, lets do more of that shit! It will totally cost less of our tax dollars!

 

[Darwin333]

Fuck you latter.

Yeah, when people start throwing that "evidence" stuff around, versus just made up bullshit, it's time for you to cut and run.

 

[Phoenix86]

Yeah, when people start throwing that "evidence" stuff around, versus just made up bullshit, it's time for you to cut and run.

The idea of a wall is a joke. It'd take minutes to scale and slightly longer to just dig under it. It won't be very wide.

 

[WelshBloke]

The idea of a wall is a joke. It'd take minutes to scale and slightly longer to just dig under it. It won't be very wide.

We've got a massive moat around our country and obviously we have no drugs being smuggled into the country. Totally drug free the UK. Totally.

 

[Phoenix86]

We've got a massive moat around our country and obviously we have no drugs being smuggled into the country. Totally drug free the UK. Totally.

Whoa, we should build a moat instead.

 

[Eli]

Everybody does drugs. If you don't, you are by far the exception and not the norm. Humans have been willingly altering their states of consciousness since likely before we were human. We've evolved with it. It's as much a part of our experience as something as basic and carnal as sex.

Legalize them all, take the money away from real criminals, leave the prison space for real criminals. Stop the War on People.

 

[Geekbabe]

Overdosing to the point of needing emergency room care can be a watershed moment for many addicts, a time when they are receptive to straight talk about their addictions, a time when many are willing to go for treatment. Sorry but I favor treatment, reading about young people dying saddens me, such a waste!

 

[Naer]

there are psychwards

 

[lxskllr]

Overdosing to the point of needing emergency room care can be a watershed moment for many addicts, a time when they are receptive to straight talk about their addictions, a time when many are willing to go for treatment. Sorry but I favor treatment, reading about young people dying saddens me, such a waste!

Treatment is fine, as long as it's voluntary, but I don't consider the legal system to be treatment.

 

[Phoenix86]

there are psychwards

Except there aren't. Not enough beds for those in need now, much less the people who are in jail who need psych wards not incarceration. Like many of your posts, you're incredibly misinformed. We traded psych wards for jails decades ago.

 

[Naer]

Except there aren't. Not enough beds for those in need now, much less the people who are in jail who need psych wards not incarceration. Like many of your posts, you're incredibly misinformed. We traded psych wards for jails decades ago.

i agree

 

[Red Squirrel]

All drugs should be legal, just punish people involved in crime that surounds drugs, those things are already illegal on their own. (killing people, stealing, etc).

If someone wants to make or use drugs they should not go to jail for it. Take all the money you save and put it into addiction shelters to help the ones who do want help. Heck have safe injection sites that also have counselors for those who are addicted. Don't be pushy about it or they'll stop going altogether, but have it available. I bet lot of addicted people would actually eventually seek help if they know it's available, and they don't need to worry about getting arrested.

Drugs are one of many things that are bad for us, such as all the crap they put into food now days, but you don't see them regulating that, do you, instead they deregulate it, through bills like the TPP, which is going to bring hormone filled milk to the market or meat from questionable places etc to local grocery stores. You don't see them concerned about our health there do you, same with smoking and drinking. Why? Because of money. The government does not profit off drugs, so they just make it illegal. It has nothing to do with the harm it does to people.

 

[MongGrel]

All drugs should be legal, just punish people involved in crime that surounds drugs, those things are already illegal on their own. (killing people, stealing, etc).

If someone wants to make or use drugs they should not go to jail for it. Take all the money you save and put it into addiction shelters to help the ones who do want help. Heck have safe injection sites that also have counselors for those who are addicted. Don't be pushy about it or they'll stop going altogether, but have it available. I bet lot of addicted people would actually eventually seek help if they know it's available, and they don't need to worry about getting arrested.

Drugs are one of many things that are bad for us, such as all the crap they put into food now days, but you don't see them regulating that, do you, instead they deregulate it, through bills like the TPP, which is going to bring hormone filled milk to the market or meat from questionable places etc to local grocery stores. You don't see them concerned about our health there do you, same with smoking and drinking. Why? Because of money. The government does not profit off drugs, so they just make it illegal. It has nothing to do with the harm it does to people.

Pretty much this, but the anti drug war has been another major employer federally in conjunction with the military for so long it is inherently linked to it to begin with.

But of course there are so many issues even surrounding legal pharma companies, it's kind of a supply and demand thing all over.

 

[Mayne]

if we jailed everytime we fucked up as a youngster we would of cured cancer. I don't know the answer to this thread.

 

[MongGrel]

if we jailed everytime we fucked up as a youngster we would of cured cancer. I don't know the answer to this thread.

You're still annoying.

All I will say on that subject.

 

[Mayne]

You're still annoying.

All I will say on that subject.

sob, get me a drink

 

[Linux23]

All drugs should be legal, just punish people involved in crime that surounds drugs, those things are already illegal on their own. (killing people, stealing, etc).

If someone wants to make or use drugs they should not go to jail for it. Take all the money you save and put it into addiction shelters to help the ones who do want help. Heck have safe injection sites that also have counselors for those who are addicted. Don't be pushy about it or they'll stop going altogether, but have it available. I bet lot of addicted people would actually eventually seek help if they know it's available, and they don't need to worry about getting arrested.

Drugs are one of many things that are bad for us, such as all the crap they put into food now days, but you don't see them regulating that, do you, instead they deregulate it, through bills like the TPP, which is going to bring hormone filled milk to the market or meat from questionable places etc to local grocery stores. You don't see them concerned about our health there do you, same with smoking and drinking. Why? Because of money. The government does not profit off drugs, so they just make it illegal. It has nothing to do with the harm it does to people.

What? You don't enjoy your chicken from China?

 

[Darwin333]

The idea of a wall is a joke. It'd take minutes to scale and slightly longer to just dig under it. It won't be very wide.

As far as drugs are concerned, they are way too profitable. I don't care what you do to stop them from coming in they will find a way. It's the "free market" at work!

The irony is that their profitability in the US is due solely to the US Government. Next time you see the guy using foodstamps load up his groceries into his brand new tricked out Escalade you should think about that. Let Walgreens sell the same drugs, except regulated and at labeled dosages, and you remove the entire economy of gangs and cartels. Hell they are already seeing massive hits in their weed sales and stepping up production of other drugs. Legalize them all and you take the legs out from under the gangs, cartels AND you make it safer AND cheaper to the taxpayer all at the same time. I couldn't imagine a greater win.

 

[Red Squirrel]

What? You don't enjoy your chicken from China?

"Chicken" :biggrin:

 

[Geekbabe]

Treatment is fine, as long as it's voluntary, but I don't consider the legal system to be treatment.

Neither do I.