Why does the right want to sell us into slavery?

DCal430

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They seem to be working harder and harder each year to turn this country into a land of corporate slaves. They want to end unions, and take away all of the workers right. If republicans had their way we would all be chained to factory machines working as slaves.
 
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werepossum

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Check your title. If you must be a complete idiot, you can at least be a grammatically correct idiot.
 

woodie1

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They seem to be working harder and harder each year to turn this country into a land of corporate slaves. They want to end unions, and take away all of the workers right. If republicans had their way we would all be chained to factor machines working as slaves.

What exactly makes you think it is only the right doing this? Seems both sides are selling us down the drain.
 

JD50

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Why is this guy allowed to keep trolling like this? He's jumped the shark.
 

Anarchist420

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What exactly makes you think it is only the right doing this? Seems both sides are selling us down the drain.
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Considering the fact that they both agreed to raise spending by $200B from the previous fiscal year, it's obvious they both want us in debt slavery.

Kind of f***ed-up how the OP thinks abolishing labor laws is slavery but a 1.6T Federal deficit isn't.
 

shortylickens

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Democrats want to take our guns and give our jobs to illegals.
I'm much more worried about them because when it comes to subjugating Americans they have better techniques and seem to be getting more done.
 

dmcowen674

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Why does the right want to sell us into slavery?

They seem to be working harder and harder each year to turn this country into a land of corporate slaves.


They want to end unions, and take away all of the workers right.

If republicans had their way we would all be chained to factor machines working as slaves.

What's a factor machine?
 

matt0611

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Considering the fact that they both agreed to raise spending by $200B from the previous fiscal year, it's obvious they both want us in debt slavery.

Kind of f***ed-up how the OP thinks abolishing labor laws is slavery but a 1.6T Federal deficit isn't.

Its you isn't it?
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Schadenfroh

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Republicans are removing the collective bargaining rights of state employees... Why do your comrades in DC not allow Federal employees the same rights that you demand from Wisconsin? Bush has been gone for a while and the Republicans only recently won control of The House, there has been plenty of time for reform.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...sin-gov-scott-walker-says-most-federal-emplo/
In an interview with Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker, NBC's Meet the Press host David Gregory zeroed in on the issue at the heart of the union showdown.
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"Well, our proposal is less restrictive than the federal government is today," Walker said. "Under Barack Obama, he presides over a federal government where most federal employees do not have collective bargaining for benefits, nor for pay. So what we're asking for is something less restrictive than what the federal government has."
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It's true, said Beth Moten, legislative and political director for AFGE, that most federal employees don't have collective bargaining rights over pay and benefits.
"So what's the point?" Moten asked. "Should employees in Wisconsin be treated as badly as federal employees are?"

I would take corporatism over a Stalinist / Maoist workers' paradise.
 

XZeroII

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Because when you're ignorant, you just don't understand how the world works so everything seems weird. Maybe if you learned a bit about the topic before posting stuff like this, you wouldn't look like such an idiot.
 
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I agree with you on this.

I think the conservatives will come around the way Zebo has.

The republicans, not so much.
 

rudeguy

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Why is this guy allowed to keep trolling like this? He's jumped the shark.

he's not the only one. There are a whole group of posters who post the most bat shit crazy things I've ever read. Then people reply to them like they are having an intelligent conversation.

It really does worry me. Are there that many people out there who believe this kind of drivel?
 

Tom

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lets look at private enterprise.

1. corporation. A legal construct with 2 major features. 1. shifts personal liability away from a person to an entity that doesn't physically exist. 2. Allows for easy collective ownership of that ethereal entity.

So that's a good legal, ethical, and practical reason for employees to have their own legal construct, a union, to allow for easy collective negotiations with collectively owned corporations.

If the legal system is going to create corporations, it's reasonable for it to also create unions. In the sense that it allows for them and defines the rules for both.

So politicians who are anti-union, but aren't anti-corporation, are biased.

The justification for unions for government workers may or may not have some of the same justifications.

Thoughts ?
 
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BoberFett

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Tom

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Why is being forced to join a union not considered slavery?


It's something that's negotiated between the union and the company, and then voted on by the union members. So it's democratically decided.

And in some cases mandatory union membership is forbidden by law, the rules of the game.
 

JD50

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It's something that's negotiated between the union and the company, and then voted on by the union members. So it's democratically decided.

And in some cases mandatory union membership is forbidden by law, the rules of the game.

That didn't answer his question.
 

Tom

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That didn't answer his question.

Yes it does. The decision to have a closed shop is made democratically, with all concerned parties agreeing to abide by the agreement. That isn't slavery.
 

IGBT

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so why did jimmy carter remove collective bargaining rights from federal workers??
 

Londo_Jowo

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Yes it does. The decision to have a closed shop is made democratically, with all concerned parties agreeing to abide by the agreement. That isn't slavery.

Yet someone who wasn't part of these said negotiations is forced to join the union to work at said company. Sounds like slavery to me. I'm just glad I happen to live in a state where slavery is against the law (right to work).
 
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