Why Does Everyone Hate On Michael Bay?

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guyver01

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Okay, but why are people who like Britney Spears idiots?

i didn't say they were. you did.

just because i dont like her music.. doesn't mean people who do are idiots.

like i said... i'm not petty.

Hello? McFly? Hello???
 

Lifted

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Don't worry guyver, the joke is on us as Transformers 3 will be out this summer and Bay will be that much richer.

At least he replaced Megan Fox with a Victoria's Secret model with no acting experience, so you don't have to worry about good acting getting in the way of the large robots and T&A.
 
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guyver01

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Don't worry guyver, the joke is on us as Transformers 3 will be out this summer and Bay will be that much richer.

exactly. the joke is on the 3 people who hate him... as the rest of us will enjoy an entertaining flick.
 

Lifted

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exactly. the joke is on the 3 people who hate him... as the rest of us will enjoy an entertaining flick.

At the rate he's going, he's aiming for a solid 4.5/10 on IMDB and 7% on Rotten Tomatoes.

Enjoy the movie! (I really mean that)
 

guyver01

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At the rate he's going, he's aiming for a solid 4.5/10 on IMDB and 7% on Rotten Tomatoes.

Enjoy the movie! (I really mean that)

I will. Thanks! :)

btw... i've never listened to ANY critic.... Siskel... Ebert... IMDB.. or RT.
 

Pulsar

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Looking at a list of his movies, for the most part, they are pretty entertaining.

Bad Boys
The Rock
Armageddon
Pearl Harbor
Bad Boys II
The Island
Transformers
Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen

So where does all of the hate come from?

The Rock was good. Armageddon was ok. The island was an interesting idea poorly executed. Bad Boys and II were just another line in a whole string of poorly made movies. Transformers was a pox upon the movie business. Giant fucking robots from space do not step on your birdbath and say "My bad". Nor do secret angents wear Underoos. What could have been a movie along the lines of Aliens was instead a movie made for 12 year olds and shot by the same idiots who did the Blair Witch Project.
 

zinfamous

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No. i'm not a fan of her music at all... but i dont create threads saying Britney Spears sucks.... people who like her music are idiots.... she's a moron.

She's obviously doing something SOMEONE likes...

Maybe i'm just not petty

:hmm:

i didn't say they were. you did.

just because i dont like her music.. doesn't mean people who do are idiots.

like i said... i'm not petty.

Hello? McFly? Hello???

my, you have a short memory. putting your own words in people's mouths?

I think you watch too much Michael Bay. it's clearly hurting your brain power.

:hmm:
 

0roo0roo

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The Rock was good. Armageddon was ok. The island was an interesting idea poorly executed. Bad Boys and II were just another line in a whole string of poorly made movies. Transformers was a pox upon the movie business. Giant fucking robots from space do not step on your birdbath and say "My bad". Nor do secret angents wear Underoos. What could have been a movie along the lines of Aliens was instead a movie made for 12 year olds and shot by the same idiots who did the Blair Witch Project.

Yea the rock was good.
The problem with bay is he can do better, he has the sway now. But he accepts crap scripts as if he were a new director that needed a job just to eat.
 

guyver01

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my, you have a short memory. putting your own words in people's mouths?

I think you watch too much Michael Bay. it's clearly hurting your brain power.

:hmm:

wow.... so now you're making up stuff to support your point of view? are you a tea bagger? Sarah Palin is that you? (sorry... i know... that was below the belt).


but i dont create threads saying Britney Spears sucks.... people who like her music are idiots.... she's a moron.

i was giving an example. i DONT think people who like her music are idiots. i think they don't understand what good music is... but i dont run around calling them idiots like everyone in this thread is doing.
 

guyver01

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yes, god forbid you have a pinch of taste introduced into your life.

No. i don't form my opinion based on what someone else thinks. i'm not a sheep.

i don't read Rotten Tomatoes to find out about movies... i don't watch Siskel or Ebert for their review. i am educated enough to be able to make up my own mind about a movie.

Example:
I was looking forward to The Last Airbender. My wife & i are big fans of the anime. People i knew told me not to see it... it was crap... it was M. Night. Shamalamadingdong.. it must be bad... blah blah blah.

I went to see it anyways. I form my own opinion. Did i like the movie? No. It was horrendous. Do i think people who liked it are idiots? No. They're entitled to their opinion.
 

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No. i don't form my opinion based on what someone else thinks. i'm not a sheep.

i don't read Rotten Tomatoes to find out about movies... i don't watch Siskel or Ebert for their review. i am educated enough to be able to make up my own mind about a movie.

Example:
I was looking forward to The Last Airbender. My wife & i are big fans of the anime. People i knew told me not to see it... it was crap... it was M. Night. Shamalamadingdong.. it must be bad... blah blah blah.

I went to see it anyways. I form my own opinion. Did i like the movie? No. It was horrendous. Do i think people who liked it are idiots? No. They're entitled to their opinion.

And now you know why they keep making crap. If people didn't spend money to see movies that everyone says is crap, just because "OMG TEH ANIME!!!1!!" then we might get more than 10% of the movies out of Hollywood not targeted towards the lowest common denominator.
 

guyver01

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And now you know why they keep making crap.

Except the difference is... IF they make a number 2..... i wont go see it.

I love the people that are like..

Matrix was horrible... worst movie ever.
Matrix 2 was even worse...
Matrix 3 sucked!


What??? why see 2 & 3 if you hated 1. I'll never understand THAT logic.
 

zinfamous

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we have found the lowest common denominator.

seriously, liking anime after the age of 16 or maybe 18 is a clear indicator. ...I must say.
 

guyver01

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we have found the lowest common denominator.

seriously, liking anime after the age of 16 or maybe 18 is a clear indicator. ...I must say.

:rolleyes:

and please... tell us... what exactly do YOU like.

besides hating everything, apparently.
 

erikistired

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jealousy mostly.

Except the difference is... IF they make a number 2..... i wont go see it.

I love the people that are like..

Matrix was horrible... worst movie ever.
Matrix 2 was even worse...
Matrix 3 sucked!


What??? why see 2 & 3 if you hated 1. I'll never understand THAT logic.

the matrix 2 and 3 did suck tho, mostly because the wachowski brothers went insane.
 

zinfamous

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Except the difference is... IF they make a number 2..... i wont go see it.

I love the people that are like..

Matrix was horrible... worst movie ever.
Matrix 2 was even worse...
Matrix 3 sucked!


What??? why see 2 & 3 if you hated 1. I'll never understand THAT logic.

most people that like this stuff like Matrix. Maybe htey like it too much, but they still like it.

the majority of those people recognize that the second one was rubbish. They may not know why, but they can definitely feel that it was terrible for some reason.

everyone else hated it even more. :\


I can't understand why anyone would go see the 2nd one if they hated the first one. I think you're creating a demographic that doesn't exist to try and prove an indefensible point.
 

zinfamous

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:rolleyes:

and please... tell us... what exactly do YOU like.

besides hating everything, apparently.

so Michael Bay and Japanese cartoons are everything?

oh, and Britney Spears, I guess.

you must have very limited exposure to things.
 

guyver01

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I can't understand why anyone would go see the 2nd one if they hated the first one. I think you're creating a demographic that doesn't exist to try and prove an indefensible point.

really? creating a demographic? did you even read this thread?
did you MISS THIS POST?

both Transformer movies really sucked. ...the Transformer movies were REAL bad.
 

BudAshes

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All those movies were terrible. Like really really terrible. The best one is bad boys(the first not the awful sequel) and really without will smith they would be terrible too.
 

guyver01

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or.. how about these Zin? did you miss these posts?

but the thing is, none of those are actually entertaining.
an idiot was responsible for that trash.


Why do you keep going to see Michael Bay movies if you find NONE of them entertaining?


Perhaps you didn't see them... since the demographic doesn't exist.... and that would mean you hate him because its cool to... not because you've formed an opinion of the movies yourself.
 

zinfamous

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or.. how about these Zin? did you miss these posts?





Why do you keep going to see Michael Bay movies if you find NONE of them entertaining?


Perhaps you didn't see them... since the demographic doesn't exist.... and that would mean you hate him because its cool to... not because you've formed an opinion of the movies yourself.

you think I go to see those?

I saw older stuff like the Rock and Armageddon back when I was a young dumb teen (the only people that like this shit) back when my buddy worked at the theater and all of tha twas free.

I think I saw the Island on Netflix--actually had no idea it was Michael Bay. It started off not too bad, honestly, but then BAM! fucking horrible car chase! well, there goes Michael Bay.

did I go to see Transformers? lol no. I haven't seen the second one. why should I?
did I see Bad Boys 2? fuck no. lol.

he's terrible.

it's OK if you like him, though. You seem to fit the MO. :\

I watch a LOT of movies bro--I actually have "paper" that gives me some sort of credentials showing that I know what I'm talking about when it comes to film. I have a well-trianed eye, you could say.

I've written a few screenplays, myself. Do I watch only brainless action movies and cartoons as you appear to watch? no. I watch just about everything. This gives me a wide arch with which to form opinions.

I know A LOT about movies and the process of making them. This gives me tons of informed background to make my comments.

It's quite strange that you seem to assume that we at ATOT are the only people that hate on Michael Bay--this is quite universal, or that the only reason for criticizing is because it's "cool"

You probably throw around the word "elitist" a lot, too. amirite?
 

erikistired

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you know why people hate on michael bay? because the dude doesn't need an excuse to blow shit up. people can't handle that sort of "don't give a fuck" attitude. people are weak.

also, zin is fucking trolling you, and you're following right along.
 

guyver01

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did I go to see Transformers? lol no. I haven't seen the second one. why should I?
did I see Bad Boys 2? fuck no. lol.

So.. you're saying the movies suck without even seeing them?
:hmm:

I actually have "paper" that gives me some sort of credentials showing that I know what I'm talking about when it comes to film. I have a well-trianed eye, you could say

does the paper give you some sort of clarivoyance?? no? well.. you're the perfect example of why most people think critics are full of shit. You cannot possibly comment on a movie without even seeing it. unless you're a shill and are being paid by someone to say something.

your opinion is now worthless... i couldn't care what some "piece of paper" says about you.

I have a piece of paper that says i'm god. Worship me now.
 

guyver01

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also, zin is fucking trolling you, and you're following right along.

i kinda figured that after his second post... but... it's 10:15pm ... i'm at work... there's nothing to do... and i'm getting paid.

instead of being bored... i'm being entertained :D


so... who is trolling who?
:hmm: