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Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: heartsurgeon
he has restored diginity to the white house.

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LOL, there hasn't been dignity in the White House since Teddy Roosevelt!
 

Horus

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...God, am I ever glad I'm not American! We don't really have political conversations like this, because one party (Liberals) has a stranglehold of the government.
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: Horus
...God, am I ever glad I'm not American! We don't really have political conversations like this, because one party (Liberals) has a stranglehold of the government.
Not as glad as I am that I am not a German!
 

nutxo

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Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: heartsurgeon
he has restored diginity to the white house.
How do you know he's not getting a nooky on the side or under the desk? He just hasn't gotten caught.
So you're saying that hes smarter than Clinton ever was?

 

konichiwa

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Originally posted by: Genesys
Originally posted by: MonstaThrilla
Originally posted by: Genesys

but it its wholly American to hand our soverignty over to corrupt global entities so that the world population likes us? NO! as an American, I can say I dont want that to happen.

and those other nations that you say we are stepping on because they dont agree with us...have you not yet noticed a trend cocerning those nations? its not as if their leaders are exactly pro-American. nor do those leaders take any measure to hide how much they hate America and Americans [yes, thst includes all Americans, even you.]
Note the bold, then he says:
you exaggerate far too much and used no logic or common sense when you typed out your post.
Here's to hypocrisy! :beer:
then explain why so many dems want Bush to crawl back to the UN and beg for forgiveness.
explain why we should submit our military and our will to use it as we see fit to the UN.
and point out some leaders of 'terrorist' states that havent stated their desire to harm or see harm to come to America[ns]

heres to ignorance :beer:
I suppose you would have supported Atilla the Hun and Genghis Khan too, eh? Believe it or not, without at least some semblance of international support anything we do is a farce.

We live in an international world and to say that we should be able to throw our weight around without any consideration as to its possible effects on the rest of the world is ludicrous. I suppose you'll retort with might means right, etc...
 

busmaster11

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Originally posted by: konichiwa
We live in an international world and to say that we should be able to throw our weight around without any consideration as to its possible effects on the rest of the world is ludicrous. I suppose you'll retort with might means right, etc...
Hey! How dare you call the entire bush foreign policy ludicrous!!!

:Q
 

Genesys

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Originally posted by: MonstaThrilla
Originally posted by: Genesys

then explain why so many dems want Bush to crawl back to the UN and beg for forgiveness.
explain why we should submit our military and our will to use it as we see fit to the UN.
and point out some leaders of 'terrorist' states that havent stated their desire to harm or see harm to come to America[ns]

heres to ignorance :beer:
More exaggerations! The people who created this horrendous image of Bush crawling back to the UN are Bush supporters looking to attack those who don't agree with Bush's Iraq policy. Ditto with the miliary will crap. You only think liberals say those things to satisfy your own delusions.

And all of a sudden the nations who don't agree with us are "terrorist states"? I honestly thought you were referring to France, et al. So by your logic, since Bush declared Iraq, Iran, and North Korea to be rogue states in the Axis of Evil, do they not have the right to preemptively attack us because our leader stated his desire to see an end to them? That would suck, huh?

War is hell. There are many options other than war to satisfy our goals. Consider them once in a while.
yeah, it would suck if any of the rogue states you mentioned attacked us first. but why should we wait for things to culminate to that point? if we know they [A] have the desire to attack us have the means to attack us - and the only thing we dont know is when the attack will happen, why stand by and let the attack happen. a pre-emptive stance is not always a bad thing.

and no, those arent exaggerations. quit trying to downplay the UN [or this sense of an international community] issue. it is very serious, and the libs wanted Bush to walk back to the UN and apologize for exerting his military strength? not only that, but the libs are wanting [and willing?!!] to subvert our military to the will of the UN. being a soverign nation includes being able to take unilateral military action, and if our military was subject to the UN, that would be taken away.

and diplomacy usually doesnt work, read the history books.
 

sandorski

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Originally posted by: Genesys
Originally posted by: MonstaThrilla
Originally posted by: Genesys

then explain why so many dems want Bush to crawl back to the UN and beg for forgiveness.
explain why we should submit our military and our will to use it as we see fit to the UN.
and point out some leaders of 'terrorist' states that havent stated their desire to harm or see harm to come to America[ns]

heres to ignorance :beer:
More exaggerations! The people who created this horrendous image of Bush crawling back to the UN are Bush supporters looking to attack those who don't agree with Bush's Iraq policy. Ditto with the miliary will crap. You only think liberals say those things to satisfy your own delusions.

And all of a sudden the nations who don't agree with us are "terrorist states"? I honestly thought you were referring to France, et al. So by your logic, since Bush declared Iraq, Iran, and North Korea to be rogue states in the Axis of Evil, do they not have the right to preemptively attack us because our leader stated his desire to see an end to them? That would suck, huh?

War is hell. There are many options other than war to satisfy our goals. Consider them once in a while.
yeah, it would suck if any of the rogue states you mentioned attacked us first. but why should we wait for things to culminate to that point? if we know they [A] have the desire to attack us have the means to attack us - and the only thing we dont know is when the attack will happen, why stand by and let the attack happen. a pre-emptive stance is not always a bad thing.

and no, those arent exaggerations. quit trying to downplay the UN [or this sense of an international community] issue. it is very serious, and the libs wanted Bush to walk back to the UN and apologize for exerting his military strength? not only that, but the libs are wanting [and willing?!!] to subvert our military to the will of the UN. being a soverign nation includes being able to take unilateral military action, and if our military was subject to the UN, that would be taken away.

and diplomacy usually doesnt work, read the history books.


Proof of any of it? Specificallly Iraq.
 
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Originally posted by: Bowfinger
Originally posted by: Gonad the Barbarian
Because I value conservative ideals: smaller government, less intrusion of it in people's everyday lives, responsible government spending, personal responsibility & freedom, and adherence to the constituion.
In all seriousness, what do those things have to do with Bush (or are you being sarcastic)?
For once, Bowfinger and I agree. Bush is NOT the poster child for smaller government or less intrusive government. Indeed, *Conservatism* is not about smaller, less intrusive government. Under Bush, farm and steal subsidies have increased, various parts of the Homeland Security (why does that remind me of Nazi Germany?) act circumvent various liberties of the American people...

I don't support Bush. I don't like him, I think he's an idiot. The ONLY thing he's done that I think was right is the war in Iraq, and even on that he screwed up and convinced everyone it was all about WMD. Personally, I don't give a damn about WMD's, and in Bush's stead I'd have simply stated that Saddam is a tyrant with the blood of millions of Iraqis on his hands and that he should and will be deposed and the Iraq people given a free, democratic government and some education in how to build a nation and economy based on individual liberty and the peaceful exchange of value for value.

I might throw in some education to the effect that you shouldn't go blowing people up just because they have different ideas about the Invisible Man in the Sky.

Jason

PS: I don't want Bush or any other president to crawl back to those bastards at the UN and beg for anything. I sincerely hope they eject us from the UN completely, and I felt HONORED when they removed us from the alleged "Human Rights" council.
 
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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: heartsurgeon
he has restored diginity to the white house.

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LOL, there hasn't been dignity in the White House since Teddy Roosevelt!
I don't think that's *entirely* true (though mostly, yes.)

Reagan had a lot of dignity and was a passionate, intelligent, moral man. Not to say he was always right or that he didn't screw up, because he most certainly did, but I have a hard time holding it too much against him because he was very, very good for the self esteem of Americans after the debacle of Nixon, Carter, Ford, Johnson...

Jason
 

MonstaThrilla

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Originally posted by: Genesys
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yeah, it would suck if any of the rogue states you mentioned attacked us first. but why should we wait for things to culminate to that point? if we know they [A] have the desire to attack us have the means to attack us - and the only thing we dont know is when the attack will happen, why stand by and let the attack happen. a pre-emptive stance is not always a bad thing.

and no, those arent exaggerations. quit trying to downplay the UN [or this sense of an international community] issue. it is very serious, and the libs wanted Bush to walk back to the UN and apologize for exerting his military strength? not only that, but the libs are wanting [and willing?!!] to subvert our military to the will of the UN. being a soverign nation includes being able to take unilateral military action, and if our military was subject to the UN, that would be taken away.

and diplomacy usually doesnt work, read the history books.



Do you seriously believe that any country in the world with the means to attack us wants to do so? Iraq fell into this category? I think not. No sovereign nation wants to attack us, so stop thinking that way. This notion that our country is so weak and needs to flex its muscle is ridiculous. We have the most superior military in history. No country's leaders would knowingly and willingly mess with us. Not even the Soviet Union during the Cold War. So get that notion out of your mind.

Our problem is with terrorists. It took 19 men to kill 3000 people. That's it. 19. Not a whole fvcking country that we have to invade and occupy. We didn't even invade and occupy Afghanistan, when that country was where our true enemies were. I'm sorry that I can't can convince you that this whole vast liberal wing conspiracy to castrate our military isn't true. Show me where any liberal said those things. In reality, they probably gave pragmatic and reasoned critiques, and you're biases twisted it to think they were singing the praises of Josef Stalin.
 

1cito

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Originally posted by: nutxo
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: heartsurgeon
he has restored diginity to the white house.
How do you know he's not getting a nooky on the side or under the desk? He just hasn't gotten caught.
So you're saying that hes smarter than Clinton ever was?
NO! he is saying that he just hasn't gotten caught. pay attention
 

1cito

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Originally posted by: nutxo
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: heartsurgeon
he has restored diginity to the white house.
How do you know he's not getting a nooky on the side or under the desk? He just hasn't gotten caught.
So you're saying that hes smarter than Clinton ever was?
NO! he is saying that he just hasn't gotten caught. pay attention
 

Zebo

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Big surpise here. No detailed responses and only 37 of them. mostly liberals... (except for dragon... Shot out for talking a stand dude..I could talk about Bucahan all day)

Because RUSH told them to? Because they hate the "commies" and liberals who want to "steal" thier paycheck?

They bought the cheap campain slogans "less-governemnt" "less-taxes" when in fact GWB is doing the exact opposite?

Yes, by raising spending he has increased taxes you're just to myopic to see it..

Comeon admit it you're a militant socialist if you support Bush. I mean what else is there? Fascist?

Comeon fellas you can do better than this. You spend hours listening to limbaugh/fox/o-rilley etc surly you can make a case. Lie, plagerize if you have to. but give us something to show you're not just idealogs and can form a convincing argument why the middle should support Bush?
 

dmcowen674

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Originally posted by: sandorski
Originally posted by: Genesys
Originally posted by: MonstaThrilla
Originally posted by: Genesys

then explain why so many dems want Bush to crawl back to the UN and beg for forgiveness.
explain why we should submit our military and our will to use it as we see fit to the UN.
and point out some leaders of 'terrorist' states that havent stated their desire to harm or see harm to come to America[ns]

heres to ignorance :beer:
More exaggerations! The people who created this horrendous image of Bush crawling back to the UN are Bush supporters looking to attack those who don't agree with Bush's Iraq policy. Ditto with the miliary will crap. You only think liberals say those things to satisfy your own delusions.

And all of a sudden the nations who don't agree with us are "terrorist states"? I honestly thought you were referring to France, et al. So by your logic, since Bush declared Iraq, Iran, and North Korea to be rogue states in the Axis of Evil, do they not have the right to preemptively attack us because our leader stated his desire to see an end to them? That would suck, huh?

War is hell. There are many options other than war to satisfy our goals. Consider them once in a while.
yeah, it would suck if any of the rogue states you mentioned attacked us first. but why should we wait for things to culminate to that point? if we know they [A] have the desire to attack us have the means to attack us - and the only thing we dont know is when the attack will happen, why stand by and let the attack happen. a pre-emptive stance is not always a bad thing.

and no, those arent exaggerations. quit trying to downplay the UN [or this sense of an international community] issue. it is very serious, and the libs wanted Bush to walk back to the UN and apologize for exerting his military strength? not only that, but the libs are wanting [and willing?!!] to subvert our military to the will of the UN. being a soverign nation includes being able to take unilateral military action, and if our military was subject to the UN, that would be taken away.

and diplomacy usually doesnt work, read the history books.


Proof of any of it? Specificallly Iraq.


Yeah, it worked out real well for England trying to go around and conquer the world, they're lucky they still have a Country, hell even the U.S. was born getting out from under the King & Queen, now the U.S. is acting like the old Kings, sure that's going to work out just as well as it did for England.
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: DragonMasterAlex
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: heartsurgeon
he has restored diginity to the white house.

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LOL, there hasn't been dignity in the White House since Teddy Roosevelt!
I don't think that's *entirely* true (though mostly, yes.)

Reagan had a lot of dignity and was a passionate, intelligent, moral man. Not to say he was always right or that he didn't screw up, because he most certainly did, but I have a hard time holding it too much against him because he was very, very good for the self esteem of Americans after the debacle of Nixon, Carter, Ford, Johnson...

Jason
Dignity in the Whitehouse just doesn't mean those in charge, but those underneath the man in charge. With the like of McFarlen, Poindexter and North to mention a couple, it's a far cry to say that Reagan's administration brought dignity to the White House. Also keep in mind that for a while after he was shot and was still recovering his wife ran things with the help of an Astrologist.
 

dmcowen674

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: DragonMasterAlex
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: heartsurgeon
he has restored diginity to the white house.

.
LOL, there hasn't been dignity in the White House since Teddy Roosevelt!
I don't think that's *entirely* true (though mostly, yes.)

Reagan had a lot of dignity and was a passionate, intelligent, moral man. Not to say he was always right or that he didn't screw up, because he most certainly did, but I have a hard time holding it too much against him because he was very, very good for the self esteem of Americans after the debacle of Nixon, Carter, Ford, Johnson...

Jason
Dignity in the Whitehouse just doesn't mean those in charge, but those underneath the man in Charge. With the like of McFarlen, Poindexter and North to mention a couple, it's a far cry to say that Reagan's administration brought dignity to the White House. Also keep in mind that for a while after he was shot and was still recovering his Wife ran things with the help of an Astrologist.
 

dmcowen674

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: DragonMasterAlex
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: heartsurgeon
he has restored diginity to the white house.

.
LOL, there hasn't been dignity in the White House since Teddy Roosevelt!
I don't think that's *entirely* true (though mostly, yes.)

Reagan had a lot of dignity and was a passionate, intelligent, moral man. Not to say he was always right or that he didn't screw up, because he most certainly did, but I have a hard time holding it too much against him because he was very, very good for the self esteem of Americans after the debacle of Nixon, Carter, Ford, Johnson...

Jason
Dignity in the Whitehouse just doesn't mean those in charge, but those underneath the man in Charge. With the like of McFarlen, Poindexter and North to mention a couple, it's a far cry to say that Reagan's administration brought dignity to the White House. Also keep in mind that for a while after he was shot and was still recovering his Wife ran things with the help of an Astrologist.
Hehehehe, hahahaa

RD - I didn't know you could be so funny, coffee came out of my nose on that one.
 

Zebo

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Originally posted by: heartsurgeon
he has restored diginity to the white house.
I know you think anti-war protestors are commiting treason but Outting a cia agent is treason. Really, it's on the books, 10 years minimum. Your morals and sense of values are upside down dude. Anything to "win" though right?

 

Zebo

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Common is it that hard?

Here I found a site for the commies tenure to give you some ideas or talking points if you will:

Longest economic expansion in American history
The President?s strategy of fiscal discipline, open foreign markets and investments in the American people helped create the conditions for a record 115 months of economic expansion. Our economy has grown at an average of 4 percent per year since 1993.


More than 22 million new jobs
More than 22 million jobs were created in less than eight years -- the most ever under a single administration, and more than were created in the previous twelve years.


Highest homeownership in American history
A strong economy and fiscal discipline kept interest rates low, making it possible for more families to buy homes. The homeownership rate increased from 64.2 percent in 1992 to 67. 7 percent, the highest rate ever.


Lowest unemployment in 30 years
Unemployment dropped from more than 7 percent in 1993 to just 4.0 percent in November 2000. Unemployment for African Americans and Hispanics fell to the lowest rates on record, and the rate for women is the lowest in more than 40 years.


Raised education standards, increased school choice, and doubled education and training investment
Since 1992, reading and math scores have increased for 4th, 8th, and 12th graders, math SAT scores are at a 30-year high, the number of charter schools has grown from 1 to more than 2,000, forty-nine states have put in place standards in core subjects and federal investment in education and training has doubled.


Largest expansion of college opportunity since the GI Bill
President Clinton and Vice President Gore have nearly doubled financial aid for students by increasing Pell Grants to the largest award ever, expanding Federal Work-Study to allow 1 million students to work their way through college, and by creating new tax credits and scholarships such as Lifetime Learning tax credits and the HOPE scholarship. At the same time, taxpayers have saved $18 billion due to the decline in student loan defaults, increased collections and savings from the direct student loan program.


Connected 95 percent of schools to the Internet
President Clinton and Vice President Gore?s new commitment to education technology, including the E-Rate and a 3,000 percent increase in educational technology funding, increased the percentage of schools connected to the Internet from 35 percent in 1994 to 95 percent in 1999.


Lowest crime rate in 26 years
Because of President Clinton?s comprehensive anti-crime strategy of tough penalties, more police, and smart prevention, as well as common sense gun safety laws, the overall crime rate declined for 8 consecutive years, the longest continuous drop on record, and is at the lowest level since 1973.


100,000 more police for our streets
As part of the 1994 Crime Bill, President Clinton enacted a new initiative to fund 100,000 community police officers. To date more than 11,000 law enforcement agencies have received COPS funding.


Enacted most sweeping gun safety legislation in a generation
Since the President signed the Brady bill in 1993, more than 600,000 felons, fugitives, and other prohibited persons have been stopped from buying guns. Gun crime has declined 40 percent since 1992.


Family and Medical Leave Act for 20 million Americans
To help parents succeed at work and at home, President Clinton signed the Family and Medical Leave Act in 1993. Over 20 million Americans have taken unpaid leave to care for a newborn child or sick family member.


Smallest welfare rolls in 32 years
The President pledged to end welfare as we know it and signed landmark bipartisan welfare reform legislation in 1996. Since then, caseloads have been cut in half, to the lowest level since 1968, and millions of parents have joined the workforce. People on welfare today are five times more likely to be working than in 1992.


Higher incomes at all levels
After falling by nearly $2,000 between 1988 and 1992, the median family?s income rose by $6,338, after adjusting for inflation, since 1993. African American family income increased even more, rising by nearly $7,000 since 1993. After years of stagnant income growth among average and lower income families, all income brackets experienced double-digit growth since 1993. The bottom 20 percent saw the largest income growth at 16.3 percent.


Lowest poverty rate in 20 years
Since Congress passed President Clinton?s Economic Plan in 1993, the poverty rate declined from 15.1 percent to 11.8 percent last year ? the largest six-year drop in poverty in nearly 30 years. There are now 7 million fewer people in poverty than in 1993. The child poverty rate declined more than 25 percent, the poverty rates for single mothers, African Americans and the elderly have dropped to their lowest levels on record, and Hispanic poverty dropped to its lowest level since 1979.


Lowest teen birth rate in 60 years
In his 1995 State of the Union Address, President Clinton challenged Americans to join together in a national campaign against teen pregnancy. The birth rate for teens aged 15-19 declined every year of the Clinton Presidency, from 60.7 per 1,000 teens in 1992 to a record low of 49.6 in 1999.


Lowest infant mortality rate in American history
The Clinton Administration expanded efforts to provide mothers and newborn children with health care. Today, a record high 82 percent of all mothers receive prenatal care. The infant mortality rate has dropped from 8.5 deaths per 1,000 in 1992 to 7.2 deaths per 1,000 in 1998, the lowest rate ever recorded.


Deactivated more than 1,700 nuclear warheads from the former Soviet Union
Efforts of the Clinton-Gore Administration led to the dismantling of more than 1,700 nuclear warheads, 300 launchers and 425 land and submarine based missiles from the former Soviet Union.


Protected millions of acres of American land
President Clinton has protected more land in the lower 48 states than any other president. He has protected 5 new national parks, designated 11 new national monuments and expanded two others and proposed protections for 60 million acres of roadless areas in America?s national forests.


Paid off $360 billion of the national debt
Between 1998-2000, the national debt was reduced by $363 billion ? the largest three-year debt pay-down in American history. We are now on track to pay off the entire debt by 2009.


Converted the largest budget deficit in American history to the largest surplus
Thanks in large part to the 1993 Deficit Reduction Act, the 1997 Balanced Budget Act, and President Clinton?s call to save the surplus for debt reduction, Social Security, and Medicare solvency, America has put its fiscal house in order. The deficit was $290 billion in 1993 and expected to grow to $455 billion by this year. Instead, we have a projected surplus of $237 billion.


Lowest government spending in three decades
Under President Clinton federal government spending as a share of the economy has decreased from 22.2 percent in 1992 to a projected 18.5 percent in 2000, the lowest since 1966.


Lowest federal income tax burden in 35 years
President Clinton enacted targeted tax cuts such as the Earned Income Tax Credit expansion, $500 child tax credit, and the HOPE Scholarship and Lifetime Learning Tax Credits. Federal income taxes as a percentage of income for the typical American family have dropped to their lowest level in 35 years.


More families own stock than ever before
The number of families owning stock in the United States increased by 40 percent since 1992.


Most diverse cabinet in American history
The President has appointed more African Americans, women and Hispanics to the Cabinet than any other President in history. He appointed the first female Attorney General, the first female Secretary of State and the first Asian American cabinet secretary ever.
 

dmcowen674

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More families own stock than ever before
The number of families owning stock in the United States increased by 40 percent since 1992.
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Only to have that stock wiped out by Bush and his elitist few and then wipe out their savings with Corp greed such as Enron. WTG Bush & Co.


Most diverse cabinet in American history
The President has appointed more African Americans, women and Hispanics to the Cabinet than any other President in history. He appointed the first female Attorney General, the first female Secretary of State and the first Asian American cabinet secretary ever.
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Poor Candie and Collie.
 

Ultima

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Don't you know, though? None of that matters because Clinton got head


Originally posted by: Zebo
Common is it that hard?

Here I found a site for the commies tenure to give you some ideas or talking points if you will:

Longest economic expansion in American history
The President?s strategy of fiscal discipline, open foreign markets and investments in the American people helped create the conditions for a record 115 months of economic expansion. Our economy has grown at an average of 4 percent per year since 1993.


More than 22 million new jobs
More than 22 million jobs were created in less than eight years -- the most ever under a single administration, and more than were created in the previous twelve years.


Highest homeownership in American history
A strong economy and fiscal discipline kept interest rates low, making it possible for more families to buy homes. The homeownership rate increased from 64.2 percent in 1992 to 67. 7 percent, the highest rate ever.


Lowest unemployment in 30 years
Unemployment dropped from more than 7 percent in 1993 to just 4.0 percent in November 2000. Unemployment for African Americans and Hispanics fell to the lowest rates on record, and the rate for women is the lowest in more than 40 years.


Raised education standards, increased school choice, and doubled education and training investment
Since 1992, reading and math scores have increased for 4th, 8th, and 12th graders, math SAT scores are at a 30-year high, the number of charter schools has grown from 1 to more than 2,000, forty-nine states have put in place standards in core subjects and federal investment in education and training has doubled.


Largest expansion of college opportunity since the GI Bill
President Clinton and Vice President Gore have nearly doubled financial aid for students by increasing Pell Grants to the largest award ever, expanding Federal Work-Study to allow 1 million students to work their way through college, and by creating new tax credits and scholarships such as Lifetime Learning tax credits and the HOPE scholarship. At the same time, taxpayers have saved $18 billion due to the decline in student loan defaults, increased collections and savings from the direct student loan program.


Connected 95 percent of schools to the Internet
President Clinton and Vice President Gore?s new commitment to education technology, including the E-Rate and a 3,000 percent increase in educational technology funding, increased the percentage of schools connected to the Internet from 35 percent in 1994 to 95 percent in 1999.


Lowest crime rate in 26 years
Because of President Clinton?s comprehensive anti-crime strategy of tough penalties, more police, and smart prevention, as well as common sense gun safety laws, the overall crime rate declined for 8 consecutive years, the longest continuous drop on record, and is at the lowest level since 1973.


100,000 more police for our streets
As part of the 1994 Crime Bill, President Clinton enacted a new initiative to fund 100,000 community police officers. To date more than 11,000 law enforcement agencies have received COPS funding.


Enacted most sweeping gun safety legislation in a generation
Since the President signed the Brady bill in 1993, more than 600,000 felons, fugitives, and other prohibited persons have been stopped from buying guns. Gun crime has declined 40 percent since 1992.


Family and Medical Leave Act for 20 million Americans
To help parents succeed at work and at home, President Clinton signed the Family and Medical Leave Act in 1993. Over 20 million Americans have taken unpaid leave to care for a newborn child or sick family member.


Smallest welfare rolls in 32 years
The President pledged to end welfare as we know it and signed landmark bipartisan welfare reform legislation in 1996. Since then, caseloads have been cut in half, to the lowest level since 1968, and millions of parents have joined the workforce. People on welfare today are five times more likely to be working than in 1992.


Higher incomes at all levels
After falling by nearly $2,000 between 1988 and 1992, the median family?s income rose by $6,338, after adjusting for inflation, since 1993. African American family income increased even more, rising by nearly $7,000 since 1993. After years of stagnant income growth among average and lower income families, all income brackets experienced double-digit growth since 1993. The bottom 20 percent saw the largest income growth at 16.3 percent.


Lowest poverty rate in 20 years
Since Congress passed President Clinton?s Economic Plan in 1993, the poverty rate declined from 15.1 percent to 11.8 percent last year ? the largest six-year drop in poverty in nearly 30 years. There are now 7 million fewer people in poverty than in 1993. The child poverty rate declined more than 25 percent, the poverty rates for single mothers, African Americans and the elderly have dropped to their lowest levels on record, and Hispanic poverty dropped to its lowest level since 1979.


Lowest teen birth rate in 60 years
In his 1995 State of the Union Address, President Clinton challenged Americans to join together in a national campaign against teen pregnancy. The birth rate for teens aged 15-19 declined every year of the Clinton Presidency, from 60.7 per 1,000 teens in 1992 to a record low of 49.6 in 1999.


Lowest infant mortality rate in American history
The Clinton Administration expanded efforts to provide mothers and newborn children with health care. Today, a record high 82 percent of all mothers receive prenatal care. The infant mortality rate has dropped from 8.5 deaths per 1,000 in 1992 to 7.2 deaths per 1,000 in 1998, the lowest rate ever recorded.


Deactivated more than 1,700 nuclear warheads from the former Soviet Union
Efforts of the Clinton-Gore Administration led to the dismantling of more than 1,700 nuclear warheads, 300 launchers and 425 land and submarine based missiles from the former Soviet Union.


Protected millions of acres of American land
President Clinton has protected more land in the lower 48 states than any other president. He has protected 5 new national parks, designated 11 new national monuments and expanded two others and proposed protections for 60 million acres of roadless areas in America?s national forests.


Paid off $360 billion of the national debt
Between 1998-2000, the national debt was reduced by $363 billion ? the largest three-year debt pay-down in American history. We are now on track to pay off the entire debt by 2009.


Converted the largest budget deficit in American history to the largest surplus
Thanks in large part to the 1993 Deficit Reduction Act, the 1997 Balanced Budget Act, and President Clinton?s call to save the surplus for debt reduction, Social Security, and Medicare solvency, America has put its fiscal house in order. The deficit was $290 billion in 1993 and expected to grow to $455 billion by this year. Instead, we have a projected surplus of $237 billion.


Lowest government spending in three decades
Under President Clinton federal government spending as a share of the economy has decreased from 22.2 percent in 1992 to a projected 18.5 percent in 2000, the lowest since 1966.


Lowest federal income tax burden in 35 years
President Clinton enacted targeted tax cuts such as the Earned Income Tax Credit expansion, $500 child tax credit, and the HOPE Scholarship and Lifetime Learning Tax Credits. Federal income taxes as a percentage of income for the typical American family have dropped to their lowest level in 35 years.


More families own stock than ever before
The number of families owning stock in the United States increased by 40 percent since 1992.


Most diverse cabinet in American history
The President has appointed more African Americans, women and Hispanics to the Cabinet than any other President in history. He appointed the first female Attorney General, the first female Secretary of State and the first Asian American cabinet secretary ever.
 

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Originally posted by: Ultima
Don't you know, though? None of that matters because Clinton got head


Originally posted by: Zebo
Common is it that hard?

Here I found a site for the commies tenure to give you some ideas or talking points if you will:

Longest economic expansion in American history
The President?s strategy of fiscal discipline, open foreign markets and investments in the American people helped create the conditions for a record 115 months of economic expansion. Our economy has grown at an average of 4 percent per year since 1993.


More than 22 million new jobs
More than 22 million jobs were created in less than eight years -- the most ever under a single administration, and more than were created in the previous twelve years.


Highest homeownership in American history
A strong economy and fiscal discipline kept interest rates low, making it possible for more families to buy homes. The homeownership rate increased from 64.2 percent in 1992 to 67. 7 percent, the highest rate ever.


Lowest unemployment in 30 years
Unemployment dropped from more than 7 percent in 1993 to just 4.0 percent in November 2000. Unemployment for African Americans and Hispanics fell to the lowest rates on record, and the rate for women is the lowest in more than 40 years.


Raised education standards, increased school choice, and doubled education and training investment
Since 1992, reading and math scores have increased for 4th, 8th, and 12th graders, math SAT scores are at a 30-year high, the number of charter schools has grown from 1 to more than 2,000, forty-nine states have put in place standards in core subjects and federal investment in education and training has doubled.


Largest expansion of college opportunity since the GI Bill
President Clinton and Vice President Gore have nearly doubled financial aid for students by increasing Pell Grants to the largest award ever, expanding Federal Work-Study to allow 1 million students to work their way through college, and by creating new tax credits and scholarships such as Lifetime Learning tax credits and the HOPE scholarship. At the same time, taxpayers have saved $18 billion due to the decline in student loan defaults, increased collections and savings from the direct student loan program.


Connected 95 percent of schools to the Internet
President Clinton and Vice President Gore?s new commitment to education technology, including the E-Rate and a 3,000 percent increase in educational technology funding, increased the percentage of schools connected to the Internet from 35 percent in 1994 to 95 percent in 1999.


Lowest crime rate in 26 years
Because of President Clinton?s comprehensive anti-crime strategy of tough penalties, more police, and smart prevention, as well as common sense gun safety laws, the overall crime rate declined for 8 consecutive years, the longest continuous drop on record, and is at the lowest level since 1973.


100,000 more police for our streets
As part of the 1994 Crime Bill, President Clinton enacted a new initiative to fund 100,000 community police officers. To date more than 11,000 law enforcement agencies have received COPS funding.


Enacted most sweeping gun safety legislation in a generation
Since the President signed the Brady bill in 1993, more than 600,000 felons, fugitives, and other prohibited persons have been stopped from buying guns. Gun crime has declined 40 percent since 1992.


Family and Medical Leave Act for 20 million Americans
To help parents succeed at work and at home, President Clinton signed the Family and Medical Leave Act in 1993. Over 20 million Americans have taken unpaid leave to care for a newborn child or sick family member.


Smallest welfare rolls in 32 years
The President pledged to end welfare as we know it and signed landmark bipartisan welfare reform legislation in 1996. Since then, caseloads have been cut in half, to the lowest level since 1968, and millions of parents have joined the workforce. People on welfare today are five times more likely to be working than in 1992.


Higher incomes at all levels
After falling by nearly $2,000 between 1988 and 1992, the median family?s income rose by $6,338, after adjusting for inflation, since 1993. African American family income increased even more, rising by nearly $7,000 since 1993. After years of stagnant income growth among average and lower income families, all income brackets experienced double-digit growth since 1993. The bottom 20 percent saw the largest income growth at 16.3 percent.


Lowest poverty rate in 20 years
Since Congress passed President Clinton?s Economic Plan in 1993, the poverty rate declined from 15.1 percent to 11.8 percent last year ? the largest six-year drop in poverty in nearly 30 years. There are now 7 million fewer people in poverty than in 1993. The child poverty rate declined more than 25 percent, the poverty rates for single mothers, African Americans and the elderly have dropped to their lowest levels on record, and Hispanic poverty dropped to its lowest level since 1979.


Lowest teen birth rate in 60 years
In his 1995 State of the Union Address, President Clinton challenged Americans to join together in a national campaign against teen pregnancy. The birth rate for teens aged 15-19 declined every year of the Clinton Presidency, from 60.7 per 1,000 teens in 1992 to a record low of 49.6 in 1999.


Lowest infant mortality rate in American history
The Clinton Administration expanded efforts to provide mothers and newborn children with health care. Today, a record high 82 percent of all mothers receive prenatal care. The infant mortality rate has dropped from 8.5 deaths per 1,000 in 1992 to 7.2 deaths per 1,000 in 1998, the lowest rate ever recorded.


Deactivated more than 1,700 nuclear warheads from the former Soviet Union
Efforts of the Clinton-Gore Administration led to the dismantling of more than 1,700 nuclear warheads, 300 launchers and 425 land and submarine based missiles from the former Soviet Union.


Protected millions of acres of American land
President Clinton has protected more land in the lower 48 states than any other president. He has protected 5 new national parks, designated 11 new national monuments and expanded two others and proposed protections for 60 million acres of roadless areas in America?s national forests.


Paid off $360 billion of the national debt
Between 1998-2000, the national debt was reduced by $363 billion ? the largest three-year debt pay-down in American history. We are now on track to pay off the entire debt by 2009.


Converted the largest budget deficit in American history to the largest surplus
Thanks in large part to the 1993 Deficit Reduction Act, the 1997 Balanced Budget Act, and President Clinton?s call to save the surplus for debt reduction, Social Security, and Medicare solvency, America has put its fiscal house in order. The deficit was $290 billion in 1993 and expected to grow to $455 billion by this year. Instead, we have a projected surplus of $237 billion.


Lowest government spending in three decades
Under President Clinton federal government spending as a share of the economy has decreased from 22.2 percent in 1992 to a projected 18.5 percent in 2000, the lowest since 1966.


Lowest federal income tax burden in 35 years
President Clinton enacted targeted tax cuts such as the Earned Income Tax Credit expansion, $500 child tax credit, and the HOPE Scholarship and Lifetime Learning Tax Credits. Federal income taxes as a percentage of income for the typical American family have dropped to their lowest level in 35 years.


More families own stock than ever before
The number of families owning stock in the United States increased by 40 percent since 1992.


Most diverse cabinet in American history
The President has appointed more African Americans, women and Hispanics to the Cabinet than any other President in history. He appointed the first female Attorney General, the first female Secretary of State and the first Asian American cabinet secretary ever.
Good point....who knew that a Bl*w j$b good do so much for our country ;)
 

sandorski

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Originally posted by: ITJunkie
Originally posted by: Ultima
Don't you know, though? None of that matters because Clinton got head


Originally posted by: Zebo
Common is it that hard?

Here I found a site for the commies tenure to give you some ideas or talking points if you will:

Longest economic expansion in American history
The President?s strategy of fiscal discipline, open foreign markets and investments in the American people helped create the conditions for a record 115 months of economic expansion. Our economy has grown at an average of 4 percent per year since 1993.


More than 22 million new jobs
More than 22 million jobs were created in less than eight years -- the most ever under a single administration, and more than were created in the previous twelve years.


Highest homeownership in American history
A strong economy and fiscal discipline kept interest rates low, making it possible for more families to buy homes. The homeownership rate increased from 64.2 percent in 1992 to 67. 7 percent, the highest rate ever.


Lowest unemployment in 30 years
Unemployment dropped from more than 7 percent in 1993 to just 4.0 percent in November 2000. Unemployment for African Americans and Hispanics fell to the lowest rates on record, and the rate for women is the lowest in more than 40 years.


Raised education standards, increased school choice, and doubled education and training investment
Since 1992, reading and math scores have increased for 4th, 8th, and 12th graders, math SAT scores are at a 30-year high, the number of charter schools has grown from 1 to more than 2,000, forty-nine states have put in place standards in core subjects and federal investment in education and training has doubled.


Largest expansion of college opportunity since the GI Bill
President Clinton and Vice President Gore have nearly doubled financial aid for students by increasing Pell Grants to the largest award ever, expanding Federal Work-Study to allow 1 million students to work their way through college, and by creating new tax credits and scholarships such as Lifetime Learning tax credits and the HOPE scholarship. At the same time, taxpayers have saved $18 billion due to the decline in student loan defaults, increased collections and savings from the direct student loan program.


Connected 95 percent of schools to the Internet
President Clinton and Vice President Gore?s new commitment to education technology, including the E-Rate and a 3,000 percent increase in educational technology funding, increased the percentage of schools connected to the Internet from 35 percent in 1994 to 95 percent in 1999.


Lowest crime rate in 26 years
Because of President Clinton?s comprehensive anti-crime strategy of tough penalties, more police, and smart prevention, as well as common sense gun safety laws, the overall crime rate declined for 8 consecutive years, the longest continuous drop on record, and is at the lowest level since 1973.


100,000 more police for our streets
As part of the 1994 Crime Bill, President Clinton enacted a new initiative to fund 100,000 community police officers. To date more than 11,000 law enforcement agencies have received COPS funding.


Enacted most sweeping gun safety legislation in a generation
Since the President signed the Brady bill in 1993, more than 600,000 felons, fugitives, and other prohibited persons have been stopped from buying guns. Gun crime has declined 40 percent since 1992.


Family and Medical Leave Act for 20 million Americans
To help parents succeed at work and at home, President Clinton signed the Family and Medical Leave Act in 1993. Over 20 million Americans have taken unpaid leave to care for a newborn child or sick family member.


Smallest welfare rolls in 32 years
The President pledged to end welfare as we know it and signed landmark bipartisan welfare reform legislation in 1996. Since then, caseloads have been cut in half, to the lowest level since 1968, and millions of parents have joined the workforce. People on welfare today are five times more likely to be working than in 1992.


Higher incomes at all levels
After falling by nearly $2,000 between 1988 and 1992, the median family?s income rose by $6,338, after adjusting for inflation, since 1993. African American family income increased even more, rising by nearly $7,000 since 1993. After years of stagnant income growth among average and lower income families, all income brackets experienced double-digit growth since 1993. The bottom 20 percent saw the largest income growth at 16.3 percent.


Lowest poverty rate in 20 years
Since Congress passed President Clinton?s Economic Plan in 1993, the poverty rate declined from 15.1 percent to 11.8 percent last year ? the largest six-year drop in poverty in nearly 30 years. There are now 7 million fewer people in poverty than in 1993. The child poverty rate declined more than 25 percent, the poverty rates for single mothers, African Americans and the elderly have dropped to their lowest levels on record, and Hispanic poverty dropped to its lowest level since 1979.


Lowest teen birth rate in 60 years
In his 1995 State of the Union Address, President Clinton challenged Americans to join together in a national campaign against teen pregnancy. The birth rate for teens aged 15-19 declined every year of the Clinton Presidency, from 60.7 per 1,000 teens in 1992 to a record low of 49.6 in 1999.


Lowest infant mortality rate in American history
The Clinton Administration expanded efforts to provide mothers and newborn children with health care. Today, a record high 82 percent of all mothers receive prenatal care. The infant mortality rate has dropped from 8.5 deaths per 1,000 in 1992 to 7.2 deaths per 1,000 in 1998, the lowest rate ever recorded.


Deactivated more than 1,700 nuclear warheads from the former Soviet Union
Efforts of the Clinton-Gore Administration led to the dismantling of more than 1,700 nuclear warheads, 300 launchers and 425 land and submarine based missiles from the former Soviet Union.


Protected millions of acres of American land
President Clinton has protected more land in the lower 48 states than any other president. He has protected 5 new national parks, designated 11 new national monuments and expanded two others and proposed protections for 60 million acres of roadless areas in America?s national forests.


Paid off $360 billion of the national debt
Between 1998-2000, the national debt was reduced by $363 billion ? the largest three-year debt pay-down in American history. We are now on track to pay off the entire debt by 2009.


Converted the largest budget deficit in American history to the largest surplus
Thanks in large part to the 1993 Deficit Reduction Act, the 1997 Balanced Budget Act, and President Clinton?s call to save the surplus for debt reduction, Social Security, and Medicare solvency, America has put its fiscal house in order. The deficit was $290 billion in 1993 and expected to grow to $455 billion by this year. Instead, we have a projected surplus of $237 billion.


Lowest government spending in three decades
Under President Clinton federal government spending as a share of the economy has decreased from 22.2 percent in 1992 to a projected 18.5 percent in 2000, the lowest since 1966.


Lowest federal income tax burden in 35 years
President Clinton enacted targeted tax cuts such as the Earned Income Tax Credit expansion, $500 child tax credit, and the HOPE Scholarship and Lifetime Learning Tax Credits. Federal income taxes as a percentage of income for the typical American family have dropped to their lowest level in 35 years.


More families own stock than ever before
The number of families owning stock in the United States increased by 40 percent since 1992.


Most diverse cabinet in American history
The President has appointed more African Americans, women and Hispanics to the Cabinet than any other President in history. He appointed the first female Attorney General, the first female Secretary of State and the first Asian American cabinet secretary ever.
Good point....who knew that a Bl*w j$b good do so much for our country ;)
hehe
 

CADsortaGUY

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Originally posted by: dmcowen674
More families own stock than ever before
The number of families owning stock in the United States increased by 40 percent since 1992.
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Only to have that stock wiped out by Bush and his elitist few and then wipe out their savings with Corp greed such as Enron. WTG Bush & Co.


Most diverse cabinet in American history
The President has appointed more African Americans, women and Hispanics to the Cabinet than any other President in history. He appointed the first female Attorney General, the first female Secretary of State and the first Asian American cabinet secretary ever.
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Poor Candie and Collie.
Poor dave

Bush's cabinet is just as "diverse"
Cabinet picks draw praise for diversity

And you see what happens when you get a huge influx of "new" people investing? It created a bubble and everyone and their brother became a broker or a "web programmer". Those times are done and we are back to reality. Stock ownership was up in 2002 compared to 1999. Look it up. I couldn't find 2003 numbers in a quick search but I would assume they went down because some people pulled those investments and went to real estate. It'd be interesting to see the dynamics of that shift in investments to see where investors are in terms of numbers.

CkG
 

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