Why do you own/want a gun?

[Tominator]

Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
i don't have a problem with guns really. i have a problem with gun freaks which think its great that you can just sell guns to anyone at a gun show or whatever. the gun lobby has made buying guns too easy for too long. thats our problem. they've screwed us for any decent regulation. its just a tool, but if you don't even try to keep it out of the wrong hands.....

maybe we should spend as much time getting rid of illegal guns as illegal drugs bah

You are completely ignorant of the facts. To get a table at any Gun Show and sell firearms YOU MUST be an FFL holder and abide by ALL pertinant laws, and they are many, or risk arrest, loss of FFL AND a complete ban at any and all shows. Paper work and more paper work that has never prevented ONE illegal purchase.

You are another moron....

 

[Wallydraigle]

I do not personally own a gun, though it's certainly possible that one day I might. Both of my parents have been delivered from potentially fatal situations by having a firearm ready. For me I believe a much better question would be why would I not want a gun?

 

[alkemyst]

I was doing some more thinking and decided to post again.

I think guns are ok for the right people to own and carry, however, defining the wrong type of person is hard.

Some generalities:

They should not be timid. They should feel comfortable with themselves. They should also know a little about unarmed self-defense.

No offense but the tiny little timid person wants anything to make him finally feel whole in a situation, unfortunately these are usually the people who upon hearing a noise in the night, sneak up without warning and blast the hell out of a friend or lover coming over late.

I always hear gun owners out in bars/clubs talking about 'pulling' on people (which is a crime in itself if you weren't life-threatened) and generally using their guns to bully.

On a separate note, I really think it is stupid, at least here in Florida, you cannot shoot someone breaking into your car. Nor your house, unless you know they will try to kill you. Criminals have sued and won .

 

[ToBeMe]

Because I want to

Because I can

Because I hunt

Because I sport shoot at ranges

 

[0roo0roo]

Originally posted by: Tominator

Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
i don't have a problem with guns really. i have a problem with gun freaks which think its great that you can just sell guns to anyone at a gun show or whatever. the gun lobby has made buying guns too easy for too long. thats our problem. they've screwed us for any decent regulation. its just a tool, but if you don't even try to keep it out of the wrong hands.....

maybe we should spend as much time getting rid of illegal guns as illegal drugs bah

You are completely ignorant of the facts. To get a table at any Gun Show and sell firearms YOU MUST be an FFL holder and abide by ALL pertinant laws, and they are many, or risk arrest, loss of FFL AND a complete ban at any and all shows. Paper work and more paper work that has never prevented ONE illegal purchase.

You are another moron....

no you are the moron. the nra has kept regulation pathetic for so long it doesn't really matter what happens now. the flood of firearms and the industry it created is now a monster.


now if firearms were regulated like some other dangerous things, like TNT all along, it would be a diffferent picture.

 

[WinkOsmosis]

Originally posted by: Bluefront
Since Moonie stays locked up at home all the time, there is no reason for him to own a gun. He has no wife or family to protect. Should anything bad happen, he'd just jump under the covers of his bed and assume the fetal position.

For the rest of us, there are different things to do. I happen to live in a rather high-crime area...St. Louis. I'm not about to roll over and play dead (like Moonie) should the worst happen. To make it in this world, you hope for the best, and prepare for the worst. I sleep well at night because of a Colt Python .357....loaded and ready to use. Too bad Moonie, you're not allowed in my house.

Permit me to quote an old saying..."Abe made everyone free. Mr Colt made everyone equal."

How many instances have there been of a guy using a gun to protect his family?

 

[Tripleshot]

Why do you own/want a gun?

To end the days of my enemies, and those who would cause me or anyone I love harm in any way.

I do not shoot for fun, I find no fun in pulling the trigger aimed at a paper target. I hunt for sustenance, fish for sustenence, and will kill for self preservation. Other than that, the guns are put away until needed for one of those callings.

 

[ToBeMe]

Originally posted by: Jellomancer

Originally posted by: Bluefront
Since Moonie stays locked up at home all the time, there is no reason for him to own a gun. He has no wife or family to protect. Should anything bad happen, he'd just jump under the covers of his bed and assume the fetal position.

For the rest of us, there are different things to do. I happen to live in a rather high-crime area...St. Louis. I'm not about to roll over and play dead (like Moonie) should the worst happen. To make it in this world, you hope for the best, and prepare for the worst. I sleep well at night because of a Colt Python .357....loaded and ready to use. Too bad Moonie, you're not allowed in my house.

Permit me to quote an old saying..."Abe made everyone free. Mr Colt made everyone equal."

How many instances have there been of a guy using a gun to protect his family?

Here's just one link to what you asked with a Google search...............there are several thousand more links...................

Person/Family protected by using a gun...................(look to right of page)

 

[0roo0roo]

but really. why is our definition of arms so limited? guns back then were the top technology of their time. so technically arms now should mean anything from f22's to tanks.

i should be able to buy one if i could afford it. to protect me from the goverment right?

 

[Amused]

There are approximately two million defensive gun uses (DGU's) per year by law abiding citizens. That was one of the findings in a national survey conducted by Gary Kleck, a Florida State University criminologist in 1993. Prior to Dr. Kleck's survey, thirteen other surveys indicated a range of between 800,000 to 2.5 million DGU's annually. However these surveys each had their flaws which prompted Dr. Kleck to conduct his own study specifically tailored to estimate the number of DGU's annually.

Subsequent to Kleck's study, the Department of Justice sponsored a survey in 1994 titled, Guns in America: National Survey on Private Ownership and Use of Firearms. Using a smaller sample size than Kleck's, this survey estimated 1.5 million DGU's annually.

 

[Bluefront]

Think about it this way.....How many more home invasions, with sometimes fatal consequences to the occupants, would occure if gun ownership were banned and nobody had a gun? I suspect that form of robbery would sky-rocket. It's bad enough as it is. A few years ago there was a serial rapist in this area....he specialized in casing out a woman....usually single.....breaking in her house at night and raping her. None of the thirty-nine or so women he raped owned a gun....he was lucky, they were not . They all got raped.....one of those women with a gun could have stopped his activity.

You want to sit around waiting for the police to protect you and your family...that's fine. But realize police rarely stop crimes....they usually arrive to help clean up the mess that already happened. It is your own responsibility to protect yourself, to protect your family. If you think you can successfully do so, without the use of a fire-arm, you're living in a dream-world.....like moonie.

 

[Tominator]

Originally posted by: 0roo0roo

Originally posted by: Tominator

Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
i don't have a problem with guns really. i have a problem with gun freaks which think its great that you can just sell guns to anyone at a gun show or whatever. the gun lobby has made buying guns too easy for too long. thats our problem. they've screwed us for any decent regulation. its just a tool, but if you don't even try to keep it out of the wrong hands.....

maybe we should spend as much time getting rid of illegal guns as illegal drugs bah

You are completely ignorant of the facts. To get a table at any Gun Show and sell firearms YOU MUST be an FFL holder and abide by ALL pertinant laws, and they are many, or risk arrest, loss of FFL AND a complete ban at any and all shows. Paper work and more paper work that has never prevented ONE illegal purchase.

You are another moron....

no you are the moron. the nra has kept regulation pathetic for so long it doesn't really matter what happens now. the flood of firearms and the industry it created is now a monster.


now if firearms were regulated like some other dangerous things, like TNT all along, it would be a diffferent picture.

Without the NRA we would have exactly the same problems as the aforementioned countries.

I take the moron accusation back....you and those like you are plain STUPID! You deny the incredible amount of facts that show you are wrong. You and those like you deny any and all history regarding the subject. Like most Liberals you repeat a fallicy so many time you think it must be true regardless.

 

[dawks]

Originally posted by: Tominator
I've owned hundreds of guns in my life. None have ever hurt anyone.

I prefer military style firearms. Most sporting rifles got their start as military rifles. The only real difference is the look. Internally they are identical.

Why do I own a gun? Because it is a right granted me by the Creator! It could be used to defend myself from all enemies, foreign and domestic. It prevents government from enslaving the populace. They could prevent crime and just the ownership of a firearm has been shown to decrease home invasions. Legal gun owners stop more crimes than the police. Crime rates in the US are dropping while Canada, Japan, England and Australia even after piling more and more restrictions upon gun ownership or outright bans, see violent crime steadily climbing.

In short...BECAUSE I CAN!

LOL.. hehe.. Well 'the creator' gave me the right to kick your ass.. maybe I should exercise that right, just because its there?

Enslavment.. lol again...

Prevents home invasions.. right.. Im professional house invador, and I walk down the streets and I can just pick out houses with/without guns.. Lets see, that one has brown brick, and maroon vinyl siding.. I guess they have a gun. I better stay away..

Sure guns can prevent crime.. But isnt a gun one of the more often used weapons in crimes? What if there were no guns at all?

 

[dawks]

Originally posted by: wQuay
A gun is a weapon, a tool, a source of entertainment, and a store of value. One of the best investments someone can make IMO.

You could pass it off as a tool if you want. but thats tools one and only job was to disable another human, if not, kill.

Its not a tool like your table saw, or hammer.. it was made to do one thing.

 

[deerslayer]

Originally posted by: ToBeMe
Because I want to

Because I can

Because I hunt

Because I sport shoot at ranges

 

[Ameesh]

i dont want a gun

 

[dawks]

Originally posted by: LyNx01

Originally posted by: ToBeMe
Because I want to

Because I can

Because I hunt

Because I sport shoot at ranges

Again, I can kick your ass if I want to.. now suppose the situation comes about that I WANT to kick your ass.. I should just because I could?
Really, thats no reason to own one, just because you can. I hear so many gun owners say, 'because I can'. Im sure you can come up with more of a legitmate reason..


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*/me hugs Ameesh

 

[roncarter]

I wish America outlawed guns!!!

 

[mithrandir2001]

What happens after gun control?

The Soviet Union established gun control in 1929. From 1929 to 1953, 20 million political dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

Turkey established gun control in 1911. From 1915 to 1917, 1.5 million Armenians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

Germany established gun control in 1938. From 1939 to 1945, 13 million Jews, Gypsies, homosexuals, mentally ill people, and other "mongrelized peoples," unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

China established gun control in 1935. From 1948 to 1952, 20 million political dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

Guatemala established gun control in 1964. From 1964 to 1981, 100,000 Mayan Indians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

Uganda established gun control in 1970. From 1971 to 1979, 300,000 Christians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

Cambodia established gun control in 1956. From 1975 to 1977, 1 million "educated people," unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

 

[ToBeMe]

Originally posted by: DaZ

Originally posted by: LyNx01

Originally posted by: ToBeMe
Because I want to

Because I can

Because I hunt

Because I sport shoot at ranges

Again, I can kick your ass if I want to.. now suppose the situation comes about that I WANT to kick your ass.. I should just because I could?
Really, thats no reason to own one, just because you can. I hear so many gun owners say, 'because I can'. Im sure you can come up with more of a legitmate reason..


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*/me hugs Ameesh

Fact of the matter is............I don't need another or a better "excuse"!

I go hunting because I enjoy it and use the game I hunt as food for me and my family. No different than someone buying a hanburger or eating some bacon at breakfast except that I complete work up the meat I get from hunting myself so the cost is much less and it is better for a person than donesticated meat.

I sport shoot on ranges because I enjoy shooting guns and archery.

I want to do these things because I like doing them and living here in the US also means I can!

Finally, if you feel so strongly about "kicking my ass"............................I invite you to come attempt to do so if you feel you have a legitimate reason to! I have no problem with that either. Perhaps that's something this country is also lacking anymore since doing so will most often result in charges or a law suit. So, if you feel that my hunting, my sport shooting, or the fact that I want to do these things, do them responsibly and safely, and do so because I CAN is threatening you or hurting you personally in any way......................come on over and attempt to "kick my ass" because I don't have a problem with that either!

 

[Zebo]

I own two 12ga and a 20ga to hunt quail, dove, waterfowl. Freezes well and tastes good. But costs more in the long run.

I own a.45 cal I keep in my truck for protection My wife has a .38 in her car.

I own a 7mm and 30-30 (both rifles) for boar and deer.

I own a 22 cal for shooting small things and cheap target proctice. Also, My kids are learning to shoot with this since it does'nt have much kick.

I own a 12 Ga street-sweeper if any dumbass walks into my home unwelcome or we have another LA riot situation (poor Regenold).

 

[BoberFett]

Originally posted by: BrunoPuntzJones

Originally posted by: BoberFett

Originally posted by: BrunoPuntzJones
Same goes for silencers.

I think you mean suppressors.

Yeah, like I said, don't knock me for technicalities Was just trying to get the basics across.

Also forgot to mention. The only folks that can legally have post 86 autos are Class 2 and Class 3 folks. Class 2 is manufactuers (obvious why they get them) and Class 3...well I dunno. It's not like anyone can get a class 3. Even if you won the lottery and had tons of $$$ you aren't likely to be able to get a Class 3. Maybe there is a set number or something, I didn't really look into it.

Tell that to Monel Funkowitz. That crazy mother has an arsenal that would give anybody here a woody.

 

[BoberFett]

Originally posted by: mithrandir2001
What happens after gun control?

The Soviet Union established gun control in 1929. From 1929 to 1953, 20 million political dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

Turkey established gun control in 1911. From 1915 to 1917, 1.5 million Armenians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

Germany established gun control in 1938. From 1939 to 1945, 13 million Jews, Gypsies, homosexuals, mentally ill people, and other "mongrelized peoples," unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

China established gun control in 1935. From 1948 to 1952, 20 million political dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

Guatemala established gun control in 1964. From 1964 to 1981, 100,000 Mayan Indians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

Uganda established gun control in 1970. From 1971 to 1979, 300,000 Christians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

Cambodia established gun control in 1956. From 1975 to 1977, 1 million "educated people," unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

TTT ^

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: DaZ


Sure guns can prevent crime.. But isnt a gun one of the more often used weapons in crimes? What if there were no guns at all?

I'll just move this over here from the other thread:

Fact: You cannot un-invent a thing.

Guns exist. You can ban them, hate them, create a police state in an attempt to get all of them, but they are a technology that is hundreds of years old. Just as with drugs, banning and confiscating guns will do nothing to stop criminally minded people from obtaining them with relative ease.

Now, that fact presented, would you rather live in a world in which only criminals have guns? Or would you accept the necessary evil of owning a gun to protect yourself and your family?

BTW, gun bans have rarely if ever resulted in lower crime.

 

[smp]

Being a Canadian .. I want a gun because I know that there are lots of guns down south .. I need a gun to defend myself from the impending American invasion