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Moonbeam has no family or anyone he loves or cares for? How sad! When did you learn this? Must be the dread reverse monitor dll. You know the one that allows you to see through his screen?
I happen to enjoy target shooting. For me it is fun, and sadly, a firearm has been useful to me.
Maybe I will take the lonely Moonbeam out with me and we can discuss politics while plinking away at tin cans.
I happen to enjoy target shooting. For me it is fun, and sadly, a firearm has been useful to me.
Maybe I will take the lonely Moonbeam out with me and we can discuss politics while plinking away at tin cans.
And you need to open your eyes and read the Attorney General opinion that says the 2nd DOES cover an individuals right to keep arms. Just because someone owns a gun doesn't make them a redneck. I happen to own quite a few firearms, and plan to increase that number. It really breaks my heart that this offends you. Really. I just know that I would stand a better chance defending myself than just sitting by and letting someone rob me, or rape my wife.
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Hmm, it appears as though Moonbeam believes that, acknowledging the possibility that fire could strike your home, imagining what scenarios might or are most likely to unfold if such an unfortunate and potentially tragic event should occur, determining a plan of action to protect one's self and family in the event of a fire, is really nothing more than fantasizing about being a 'hero' so one can feel important and loved.
Hell, those of us who have acknowledged the possibility of a fire and formulated plans of action to protect ourselves and family in such events may, according to Moonbeam, even be extremely likely to set a fire deliberately so we can then rescue ourselves and family, out of a Factitious/Munchausen by proxy type need to be perceived as a hero.
Surely, then, the "real" reason anyone would buy a fire extinguisher, is because they fantasize not only about rescuing those from danger, but battling the fire itself ala some repressed firemans complex.
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Wow, tcsenter, I had no idea you had such a rich fantasy life too. I can imagine how excited you must be, but like a gay in a straight bar don't you feel a bit out of place here. I mean, you should join a fire extinguisher club, and learn proper handling technique. There are millions to choose from, are their not, the parallel between fire arms and fire extinguishers being so apt? You need to add your voice, too, to the hundreds of thousand post threads on fire extinguisher ownership, threads that repeat constantly here on ATOT. You should do a movie, Fire Extinguisher 1, and spread your fantasy farther. I think you've struck a golden nerve. You can do a game, maybe call it HALON. Think of the possibilities. Oh and burning buildings or even planes and the repressed fireman's complex, nah, I don't think so. That would never sell. I don't think anything like that is floating around in anybody's psyche. Nope, I'm sure of it, but nice try.
Well, each to his own. I'm gonna stay where I am. With the Iraqi thing brewing, I got out my scoped Marlin and dusted it off. You never know. I caressed the wood, admired the bluing and machine precision metal. It's a work of art. You can keep your fire extinguisher. I love putting those old crosshairs on that terrorist blackbird in my neighbor's yard. Have you tried scoping your extinguisher. There's a ton of sites on the web that will show you how. We do maybe have some things in common. I practiced getting to my Browing 12 gauge automatic blindfolded and memorized the location of the shells. Anybody who comes through my door uninvited will be removed in sections. UUUMF. Man that feels good. Their guts will be splattered everywhere. Oh OH OHHHHHHHHH, oh, hold me down. Oh man that felt good.
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Bluefront, I can easily imagine how it would take a gun for you to feel equal.
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Hay, you weren't in here when I began this post. Thanks for the invite. I can't think of anything I would enjoy more than plinking cans with you. I'm not sure my leader will let me off the compound, but if he will it would be great. The gun cases are bound to attract some attention with Greyhound though, I fear. And pay no attention to Bluefront and his amazing visions. He failed the Post Office Exam and has since become a bitter exponent on what's wrong with it and the world. Not only can I see through his monitor, Hay, I understand what I see. That's the trick.
Hmm, it appears as though Moonbeam believes that, acknowledging the possibility that fire could strike your home, imagining what scenarios might or are most likely to unfold if such an unfortunate and potentially tragic event should occur, determining a plan of action to protect one's self and family in the event of a fire, is really nothing more than fantasizing about being a 'hero' so one can feel important and loved.
Hell, those of us who have acknowledged the possibility of a fire and formulated plans of action to protect ourselves and family in such events may, according to Moonbeam, even be extremely likely to set a fire deliberately so we can then rescue ourselves and family, out of a Factitious/Munchausen by proxy type need to be perceived as a hero.
Surely, then, the "real" reason anyone would buy a fire extinguisher, is because they fantasize not only about rescuing those from danger, but battling the fire itself ala some repressed firemans complex.
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Wow, tcsenter, I had no idea you had such a rich fantasy life too. I can imagine how excited you must be, but like a gay in a straight bar don't you feel a bit out of place here. I mean, you should join a fire extinguisher club, and learn proper handling technique. There are millions to choose from, are their not, the parallel between fire arms and fire extinguishers being so apt? You need to add your voice, too, to the hundreds of thousand post threads on fire extinguisher ownership, threads that repeat constantly here on ATOT. You should do a movie, Fire Extinguisher 1, and spread your fantasy farther. I think you've struck a golden nerve. You can do a game, maybe call it HALON. Think of the possibilities. Oh and burning buildings or even planes and the repressed fireman's complex, nah, I don't think so. That would never sell. I don't think anything like that is floating around in anybody's psyche. Nope, I'm sure of it, but nice try.
Well, each to his own. I'm gonna stay where I am. With the Iraqi thing brewing, I got out my scoped Marlin and dusted it off. You never know. I caressed the wood, admired the bluing and machine precision metal. It's a work of art. You can keep your fire extinguisher. I love putting those old crosshairs on that terrorist blackbird in my neighbor's yard. Have you tried scoping your extinguisher. There's a ton of sites on the web that will show you how. We do maybe have some things in common. I practiced getting to my Browing 12 gauge automatic blindfolded and memorized the location of the shells. Anybody who comes through my door uninvited will be removed in sections. UUUMF. Man that feels good. Their guts will be splattered everywhere. Oh OH OHHHHHHHHH, oh, hold me down. Oh man that felt good.
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Bluefront, I can easily imagine how it would take a gun for you to feel equal.
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Hay, you weren't in here when I began this post. Thanks for the invite. I can't think of anything I would enjoy more than plinking cans with you. I'm not sure my leader will let me off the compound, but if he will it would be great. The gun cases are bound to attract some attention with Greyhound though, I fear. And pay no attention to Bluefront and his amazing visions. He failed the Post Office Exam and has since become a bitter exponent on what's wrong with it and the world. Not only can I see through his monitor, Hay, I understand what I see. That's the trick.
(practical reason)
Ok, I do enjoy going down to the gun range .... so, instead of paying the gun rental fee or use my friends (provided that I clean them afterwards). I want my own equipments.
Just like skiing.... I ski a few times a year..... I want my own skis, gloves, shoes, helmet...etc
(as a hobby)
Hmmm, I do have a sharp katana that serves NO purpose except as a conversation piece, should I get rid of it?
It's a hobby! That's why some people put some much money into their precious car and is afraid to drive it.
GoodRevrnd
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I own a gun to stop the democrat conspiracy, as written by Neal Boortz. Of course I believe most of what he wrote is in satire, but there are definitely partial truths and possibilities to all of it. I don't favor eroding liberties.
I'd also like to point out that the National Guard is a very half ass final interpretatoin of the second amendment. I'd also like to point out it says "the rights of the people to keep and bear arms." Government controlled "militia" hardly represents the people.
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:| I just want to reiterate Klah's point:
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Originally posted by: Marlin1975
And for all the dumb rednecks here The 2nd amendment does NOT protect your right to own a gun
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How are these different:
"..the right of the people peaceably to assemble.."
"..the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."
"The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures.."
So you believe all of the first 10 amendments apply to individuals except the 2nd?
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I seriously think we need to start going back to stricter interpretations of the constitution. Some things are just getting sick these days.
The attorney general is NOT A JUDGE, he is the top cop of the nation. It is his job to follow the law not write it. So he can say what he wants, it will not hold up in court. every heard of the Constitution?? Why don't you give it a REAL read.
Ascroft is a sore loser that lost to a dead guy and pushs his beliefs on others. This from the man that wanted to cover the statue of justice as he thought it was obsene
Hahahaha, sounds to me like you are the tool....
I mean in one breath you say it's the most hated invention ever, then in the next "I wouldn't mind owning one".
????
We won't even touch the killing for food part....
Oh my budda!!! Is english your second lang.? "People" is Plural, not Single. Such as YOU don't have the right to a gun, BUT "people" of a well armed milita (national guard) do!!!
There is NOT one current court case that has held up that says the 2nd stands for a persons right.
shiner
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Originally posted by: Marlin1975
The attorney general is NOT A JUDGE, he is the top cop of the nation. It is his job to follow the law not write it. So he can say what he wants, it will not hold up in court. every heard of the Constitution?? Why don't you give it a REAL read.
Ascroft is a sore loser that lost to a dead guy and pushs his beliefs on others. This from the man that wanted to cover the statue of justice as he thought it was obsene
You can't really be that stupid. Well I guess you could but I thought AOL users were not allowed in this forum. Go back and give the Constitution a read yourself. Then pick up some of the works of the Founding Fathers to get their views on private gun ownership. I don't know where you got the wacked out opinion that the 2nd Amendment doesn't guarantee private gun ownership but I'm willing to bet it was in a public school.
without a doubt, that is the absolute worst comparison that can be made. "a baseball bat can be quite a weapon and has no more legitimate use than a fire arm." :disgust:
Originally posted by: shinerburke
Originally posted by: Marlin1975
The attorney general is NOT A JUDGE, he is the top cop of the nation. It is his job to follow the law not write it. So he can say what he wants, it will not hold up in court. every heard of the Constitution?? Why don't you give it a REAL read.
Ascroft is a sore loser that lost to a dead guy and pushs his beliefs on others. This from the man that wanted to cover the statue of justice as he thought it was obsene
You can't really be that stupid. Well I guess you could but I thought AOL users were not allowed in this forum. Go back and give the Constitution a read yourself. Then pick up some of the works of the Founding Fathers to get their views on private gun ownership. I don't know where you got the wacked out opinion that the 2nd Amendment doesn't guarantee private gun ownership but I'm willing to bet it was in a public school.
The Constitution says courts define law.
So show me one case that has held up and says the 2nd protects a person rights to a gun.
shiner
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Here you go Toolio......you might want to do a little reading...
Supreme Court Cases on the 2nd Amendment
Demon-Xanth - <<A baseball bat can be quite a weapon and has no more legitimate use than a firearm. >>
Quote material.
Quote material.
GoodRevrnd
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You didn't answer the post regarding the last US Federal Court Case regarding guns in 1939 and it's ambiguity.Originally posted by: Marlin1975
The attorney general is NOT A JUDGE, he is the top cop of the nation. It is his job to follow the law not write it. So he can say what he wants, it will not hold up in court. every heard of the Constitution?? Why don't you give it a REAL read.
Ascroft is a sore loser that lost to a dead guy and pushs his beliefs on others. This from the man that wanted to cover the statue of justice as he thought it was obsene
Well ...
Fact: Moose is tasty.
Corollary: A moose is much larger than a human and extremely dangerous when angry.
Theory: Therefore, putting a 30.06 through it from about 200 yards is the best way to handle things.
Conclusion: And since I'm not going to be throwing ammo that hard, the Remington 700 does the perfect job.
- M4H
GoodRevrnd
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Let me respond by quoting amendment IV then:
So by your reasoning it's not ok for the government to ransack a city looking for something, but the individual's rights are out the window? This society was founded on individual rights, not collective as you would have it. Maybe these collective interpretations are best for furthering the cause of a Stalin like yourself (though perhaps grammar nazi would have been more appropriate?), but I'll take my individual rights. :|
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On second thought... Oh my Buddha! That was THE most asinine grammar interpretation I've ever heard. The fact that it IS plural absolutely means that it guarantees the right to all of us... not a single person, not a priviliged class, and NOT a single controlled militia.
As nice as gunsite.com is, none of those cases said a person as single has a rigth to a gun. Did you read the full cases or just grab a link to a Gun site
Originally posted by: Gaard
MercenaryForHire - <<And since I'm not going to be throwing ammo that hard>>
Pussy.
Where?
BTW, I like your sig Gaard. Nice work on snapping up the new material.
- M4H
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