Why do you own/want a gun?

[FeathersMcGraw]

"If I didn't have this gun, the King of England could walk in here any time he wants and just start shoving you around. Do you want that? Huh? DO YOU?"

 

[tcsenter]

I can't believe it, someone that owns a gun and is HONEST.

A lot of gun owners are honest but have different opinions or levels of competency. If he truly believes he is not competent enough to avoid shooting one of his roommates or GF then its a good thing that he understands his limitations. Many gun owners have dozens of hours of defensive or tactical firearms training and years of experience. Many do not. But gun owners of all skill levels have and do defend themselves from intruders successfully; from grandmothers who have never fired their gun before to veteran police officers.

You are more likely to shoot someone you know or get shot by your own gun then you are to shot someone that is breaking in your house.

Wrong, that bit of propaganda is from Arthur Kellerman's 'study' that is probably the most discredited 'antigun' factoid ever published. Kellerman counted any gun that was used in a shooting as the 'household' gun, regardless if it was owned by a member of the household or not. Further, Kellerman himself admits in his study that he should have but did not count defensive gun uses where an intruder was wounded, or repelled without being shot. He only counted intruders killed. There are a few other gaping flaws with his study, which are eloquently articulated elsewhere.

And for all the dumb rednecks here The 2nd amendment does NOT protect your right to own a gun Open your eyes and read some Supreme Court papers and old documents, and you will see the the 2nd amendment protects a state gov.'s right to keep a well armed milita, or as we call it now aday, a national guard.

The Supreme Court of the United States has never ruled that the 2nd Amendment does not protect an individual right to own firearms. The US Federal Court of Appeals for the 5th Circuit and a federal district court have recently found the 2nd Amendment does protect an individual right to keep and bear arms.

The last time the US Supreme Court heard a 2nd Amendment case was US v. Miller in 1939. The Miller ruling is often misrepresented as being supportive of the 'collective rights' interpretation, it is not. At best, the Miller ruling is ambiguous and can be read equally well to support either interpretation.

 

[Vadatajs]

I would get a rifle for target practice, but I firmly believe that all handguns should be banned.

 

[GoingUp]

I hunt and it's fun to go shoot. Nothing like blowin up some cans or vending machine animals for fun

 

[Nitemare]

to kill bad guys?

I would tell you but then I'd have to kill you...

in case someone threatens my wife, my person or property I can introduce them to their maker



pick one

 

[GoingUp]

Originally posted by: Eli

They're tools, not toys as far as I'm concerned...

Homer: "A gun is not a weapon, Marge. It's a tool. Like a butcher knife, or a harpoon, or...uh, a...an alligator. You just need more education on the subject."

 

[GasX]

Guns don't kill people. Bullets ripping through flesh kill people.

 

[BoberFett]

Originally posted by: yakko
So I can stab people.

LMAO!

I own a gun because I enjoy shooting. God forbid I ever have to use it against a living thing, but I do keep a loaded mag available in my residence.

 

[FoBoT]

shootin' is fun

but i don't have one at the moment, i have small kids in the house
but in 5-10 years i will get a blackpowder muzzleloader to use up at my uncle's farm, for target shooting/fun

 

[wQuay]

A gun is a weapon, a tool, a source of entertainment, and a store of value. One of the best investments someone can make IMO.

 

[Demon-Xanth]

I got my .22 for target shooting, and my 30.06 for going hunting with my dad.

Before you incriminate guns as being only for kill weapons, how many people were killed by cars this week? What about stabbings? What about beatings? A baseball bat can be quite a weapon and has no more legitimate use than a firearm.

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

I own a gun because I enjoy shooting. God forbid I ever have to use it against a living thing, but I do keep a loaded mag available in my residence.

Same thing here. Honestly I find guns very satisfying pieces of industrial art, and I find shooting very relaxing. I am required to maintain proficiency with a 9mm for work, but I also enjoy recreational shooting. If the circumstances warranted it, I would use my gun to defend myself, but I have no desire to carry a weapon, and I do not delude myself with the notion that I am likely to ever use a gun to defend my home.

 

[Imdmn04]

all these people are saying guns dont kill people, people kill people, but it will be a lot harder for people to kill people if they didnt have any guns. I can see it used for hunting, or at the shooting range. but self defense, please, when is the last time or situation you protected yourself with your own gun that couldn't be resolved without guns?

 

[Valinos]

Originally posted by: Don_Vito

I own a gun because I enjoy shooting. God forbid I ever have to use it against a living thing, but I do keep a loaded mag available in my residence.

Same thing here. Honestly I find guns very satisfying pieces of industrial art, and I find shooting very relaxing. I am required to maintain proficiency with a 9mm for work, but I also enjoy recreational shooting. If the circumstances warranted it, I would use my gun to defend myself, but I have no desire to carry a weapon, and I do not delude myself with the notion that I am likely to ever use a gun to defend my home.

So...what's your field? Waste management? Olive oil?

Don Vito...ehhh..

 

[klah]

Originally posted by: Marlin1975
And for all the dumb rednecks here The 2nd amendment does NOT protect your right to own a gun

How are these different:

"..the right of the people peaceably to assemble.."
"..the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."
"The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures.."

So you believe all of the first 10 amendments apply to individuals except the 2nd?

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

So...what's your field? Waste management? Olive oil?

Don Vito...ehhh..

I solve problems for people, and protect the interests of the Family. Hee hee . . .

 

[B00ne]

I dont own one and I would probably not want one. I would like to go to a shooting range to shoot a G36 though, but unfortunately this is not allowed by the "Kriegswaffenkontrollgesetz" - War/Mil.-weapons-control-law. And for other guns, for me shooting some targets on a target range is not worth the hassle and the cost to obtain a gun.

procedure is like that: Become member in a shooting club, be member there for some time, to get the permit u need to proof, that u are a regular member, participating in competitions, need the gun for the sport, are a law abiding citizen and then u can get a gun.(me thinks maybe its harder) Then u are required to buy an special safe to store the gun that prevents others from acces to it. And of course the type of gun is limited. (when this Erfurt school shooting happened they wondered how this guy obtained a license for this pump action shotgun with pistol handle(no shoulderpiece) - so nowadays these types of weapons are banned as they are clearly not for sport usage but for killing.

So u will understand that owning a gun is quite a commitment that I am not willing to make just to pop off a few rounds.

Off course u could probably get one illegaly but I wouldnt remotely have a clue how, where, and how much that would cost - when the russians were still here it was easy to get all sorts of extremely illegal military weaponry as they would sell whatever for the mighty DMark
besides being a member in a shooting club is something u certainly should not mention to a date if u want to date her again

But if I lived in the states I would probably want to get a gun just to keep the status quo.....

 

[AnthraX101]

And for all the dumb rednecks here The 2nd amendment does NOT protect your right to own a gun Open your eyes and read some Supreme Court papers and old documents, and you will see the the 2nd amendment protects a state gov.'s right to keep a well armed milita, or as we call it now aday, a national guard.

What part of "Shall not be infringed" do you find hard to understand?

AnthraX101

 

[jjones]

I own guns simply for the fact that if the opportunity ever presents itself, I want to kill people, as many as possible, over and over, from sun up to sun set, day in and day out, 365 days of the year.

 

[acidvoodoo]

i live in britain, so i cannot use handguns, and rifles i beleive u need a license. i do however enjoy shooting air rifles/pistols at targets. i don' know why, it's just a relaxing (sport?hobbie?) like golf. it's not head on or physical (like rugby haha)
i am moving to america in a few years and will likely join a gun club. i don't like hunting though.

to what extent are guns legal in america. i mean, i know u can get rifles/shotguns and pistols quite easy, but what about automatics etc?

 

[CPA]

Originally posted by: tcsenter

I constantly run 'what if' scenarios like that where I kill a monster, an alien, some hells angles, some iraki terrorists and so on.

Hmm, it appears as though Moonbeam believes that, acknowledging the possibility that fire could strike your home, imagining what scenarios might or are most likely to unfold if such an unfortunate and potentially tragic event should occur, determining a plan of action to protect one's self and family in the event of a fire, is really nothing more than fantasizing about being a 'hero' so one can feel important and loved.

Hell, those of us who have acknowledged the possibility of a fire and formulated plans of action to protect ourselves and family in such events may, according to Moonbeam, even be extremely likely to set a fire deliberately so we can then rescue ourselves and family, out of a Factitious/Munchausen by proxy type need to be perceived as a hero.

Surely, then, the "real" reason anyone would buy a fire extinguisher, is because they fantasize not only about rescuing those from danger, but battling the fire itself ala some repressed firemans complex.

Once again tscenter nails it on the head.

 

[CPA]

Originally posted by: tcsenter

I can't believe it, someone that owns a gun and is HONEST.

A lot of gun owners are honest but have different opinions or levels of competency. If he truly believes he is not competent enough to avoid shooting one of his roommates or GF then its a good thing that he understands his limitations. Many gun owners have dozens of hours of defensive or tactical firearms training and years of experience. Many do not. But gun owners of all skill levels have and do defend themselves from intruders successfully; from grandmothers who have never fired their gun before to veteran police officers.

You are more likely to shoot someone you know or get shot by your own gun then you are to shot someone that is breaking in your house.

Wrong, that bit of propaganda is from Arthur Kellerman's 'study' that is probably the most discredited 'antigun' factoid ever published. Kellerman counted any gun that was used in a shooting as the 'household' gun, regardless if it was owned by a member of the household or not. Further, Kellerman himself admits in his study that he should have but did not count defensive gun uses where an intruder was wounded, or repelled without being shot. He only counted intruders killed. There are a few other gaping flaws with his study, which are eloquently articulated elsewhere.

And for all the dumb rednecks here The 2nd amendment does NOT protect your right to own a gun Open your eyes and read some Supreme Court papers and old documents, and you will see the the 2nd amendment protects a state gov.'s right to keep a well armed milita, or as we call it now aday, a national guard.

The Supreme Court of the United States has never ruled that the 2nd Amendment does not protect an individual right to own firearms. The US Federal Court of Appeals for the 5th Circuit and a federal district court have recently found the 2nd Amendment does protect an individual right to keep and bear arms.

The last time the US Supreme Court heard a 2nd Amendment case was US v. Miller in 1939. The Miller ruling is often misrepresented as being supportive of the 'collective rights' interpretation, it is not. At best, the Miller ruling is ambiguous and can be read equally well to support either interpretation.

...and again.

 

[Gaard]

I own a simple single-shot 12 gauge. I bought it years ago to go deer hunting. About 10 years ago, I developed a strong dislike for venison and stopped hunting. Haven't shot it since...don't know why I keep it around (haven't had any slugs for it since then either).

Funny story time...I had never shot a gun before I bought this shotgun. Me and my brothers went out into the field to shoot at some cans (to get a feel for shooting). Keep in mind this gun has one hell of a kick. Well, not ever having fired a gun before, I had no idea what I was doing. I held the gun up and took careful aim...with the butt of the gun about 3 inches from my shoulder. After I picked myself up off the ground (and after by brothers got done laughing), they told me what I did wrong. My whole shoulder was black and blue for a week!

 

[BoberFett]

Originally posted by: CPA

Originally posted by: tcsenter

I constantly run 'what if' scenarios like that where I kill a monster, an alien, some hells angles, some iraki terrorists and so on.

Hmm, it appears as though Moonbeam believes that, acknowledging the possibility that fire could strike your home, imagining what scenarios might or are most likely to unfold if such an unfortunate and potentially tragic event should occur, determining a plan of action to protect one's self and family in the event of a fire, is really nothing more than fantasizing about being a 'hero' so one can feel important and loved.

Hell, those of us who have acknowledged the possibility of a fire and formulated plans of action to protect ourselves and family in such events may, according to Moonbeam, even be extremely likely to set a fire deliberately so we can then rescue ourselves and family, out of a Factitious/Munchausen by proxy type need to be perceived as a hero.

Surely, then, the "real" reason anyone would buy a fire extinguisher, is because they fantasize not only about rescuing those from danger, but battling the fire itself ala some repressed firemans complex.

Once again tscenter nails it on the head.

I think I'll go buy a fire extinguisher and play Backdraft in my basement.

 

[Orsorum]

I own a 20-gauge pump, Remington shotgun, a .22 target pistol. Both primarily used for target practice, I've gone on a few hunting outings with the 20-gauge.

Doesn't bother me if someone else doesn't want to own guns - however, my children will be around guns, and they're going to know how to properly use, maintain and act around firearms. IMO, it's part of being a well-rounded person. They don't have to go trap shooting every weekend (even though I will, ), but they'll know what it's really like to own one, instead of the bleeding heart liberal pansies that don't want anyone to have one.

Wow, now I'm all frisky...