In your ignorance of the Bible, it never said not to judge everything. As a matter of fact in all things you should judge. Above all judge yourself. The Bible says not to judge whether or not a man will be saved. Thats what we are suppose to not judge. I am told to judge who are my friends, who I support, how I conduct myself in relationships with people. I am suppose to take the word of God, the bible and judge everything. Thats what its there for. I would never ever go into a serious trust relationship with an atheist. As a matter of fact we are to judge your partner before marriage. If they ain't saved then your not suppose to marry them. But I'll excuse you, because it is clear you totally ignorant of the truth and only will repeat what you hear. Its ok you fit the bill of monkey see, monkey do. But hey even an ignorant monkey can appear intelligent sometimes. Let me help you and few others out, no matter how ignorant or stupid you may really be, you can appear to be the most smartest person in the world if you don't say anything. Because let me be quite frank, you are going to be judged in the end. And know what your belief has nothing to do with it. Your belief doesn't create God and certainly is not going to make God not exist. Oh he exist and I can asure you without a shadow of doubt he is going to judge you. So you better stop worrying about what other people believe, because trust me you better start worrying how you believe, tough guy.
Surely, many people find it reassuring to read the Good Book--definitely much more than reading your rant.
No, I'm saying the proper Christian thing to do would be to bite one's tongue and not post. At the least, to not judge someone else but let them rant and rave and carry on.
Just like an idiot driver. What's the best thing to do? Follow them and engage in road rage tactics or let them pass and be done with them?
PowerEngineer
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Ignoring your ignorance of the English language, you make some rather big ASSumptions about me in your post. You also engage in several insults.
Gee...what a fine Christian you are. Jesus must surely be shining down upon you.
It's "Christians" like you that give Christians a bad name.
I'm sorry but what you're saying is BS. Why would the proper Christian thing to do be to bite one's tongue and not post? We're not allowed to defend ourselves in a respectful and decent manner when someone attacks us?
So if someone makes a post berating Polish people or Spanish people, should they be "the bigger person" and not reply?
DougK62
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Oh, Vic. Please don't bring out that tired argument. There are TONS of people that do not believe in your god or any other god. And that's true. Your phrase "there are no atheists in foxholes" is just flat out WRONG. My father and grandfather were both medical personnel in wars (Vietnam, WWII) and they'll both tell you that the death bed conversion is laughable. Sure it happens, but in very few numbers. I worked at a hospital for years and my job required me to witness slow deaths of a countless number of people. I don't recall a single person doing the death bed conversion deal.
Really, that point is weak and mostly fiction.
You really need to open your eyes. Atheists don't hate god. They simply don't believe it exists. Just like how you don't hate Zeus, Dionysus, Hermes, etc - you just think they're fiction.
Vic
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Just because that is what Christians are supposed to do doesn't make it any easier to ignore threads and posts that are the emotional equivalent of attacking one's mother.
And if you look really closely, you just might see that a lot of these people with faith are not actually attacking the "antagonistic atheists", but are seeking to clear up gross misconceptions and outright falsehoods. That they are not judging or failing to turn the other cheek, but are in fact proclaiming and defending their own faith and testimony, and clearing up the lies. That you perceive such as insult is your own failing and weakness.
All that certainly works both ways.
There is only one God, regardless of what names you choose to give Him (by "Him", I do wish that the English had a respectful pronoun that implied the embodiment of both genders, unlike "it" which is a disrespectful neuter prounoun).
Slightly off topic, I believe that the true nature of God is that He is apart of us and we are apart of Him. That a part of God exists (or is capable of existing) in each one of us. Most Christians would refer to this as the presence of the Holy Spirit. In other words, one could say that God represents that capacity inside us to be righteous and do good. When a person calls upon God, He is not necessarily praying to some "fictitious Sky King" as the atheists claim, but to that part of him- or herself that is most capable of righteous strength and goodness.
This is NOT a "New Age" religious concept. Let me call your attention to Matthew 22:36-40, otherwise known as the "Greatest Commandment".
36 ?Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law??
37 Jesus replied: ? ?Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.?
38 This is the first and greatest commandment.
39 And the second is like it: ?Love your neighbor as yourself.?
40 All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.?
Translated:
Love yourself and all about yourself that is righteous and good as best you can.
Love everyone other person the exact same way you love that righteous part of yourself.
Everything else the religious preachers teach you or tell you that you must do is bullsh!t commentary.
There's a reason why it was the priests who killed Christ. Here's a clue, that they did is very likely why you, Red, don't like the "Fund-A-Mentals".
MichaelD uses examples in the OP that I wouldn't brand a person for being weak over in and of themself. If they're down on their luck and looking to God for help and support, he brands them as weak. So what happens when this person looks to God and winds up overcoming their marriage problems, drug addictions, or anything else? Are these people still inherently weak for turning to a higher power in their time of need, even though they're a "stronger" person now?
Do you not know how the Internet works?
Do you not know what a troll post is?
Eliciting responses is all that was sought. If you feel this thread is that much of a threat to your faith, then your faith is very weak.
The problem is your trolling post is a very realistic conception of what some people believe.
Never once did I say that this thread is in any way threatening to my faith. Read my posts on previous pages. Like Vic said above, I'm trying to clear up some of the misconceptions people tend to have because all they are exposed to are the extremists.
This isn't an insult?
:roll:
And, I'm not defending anyone up here. I know there are antagonists up here who like to poke at the believers. I won't instigate a fight but I'll join in when I find mistruths, arrogance, and hypocrisy.
I think Red Dawn is pointing to self righteous fundamentalist. The one that are judgemental and are behaving in an un-christian way (love your neighbour as you love yourself). I do agree that they actually contribute to this negative view on Christianity in general.
Vic
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Did you think I was talking about faith in God as defined by the Fundamentalists, where you have to believe that God exists in a precise and specific fashion? Hardly. One way or another, everyone believes. Either that, or they don't believe in (and likely hate) themselves and others. They may not call what they believe God per se, but if they believe in love and righteousness, and extend that belief to love others and to be righteous, then they do believe in and have faith in the Christian God, because His Name is love and righteous, and none other.
This is why, in Matthew 7:21, Christ says: "Not everyone who says to me, ?Lord, Lord,? will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he who does the will of my Father who is in heaven."
When seeking to understand the true nature of God and faith, I believe that it is important to religious that not eveyone who claims to believe will be saved, and not everyone who does not do as the priest says they should do will be damned. And that the Bible even says as much.
They killed Christ because he had different ideas then they did. They were afraid of him.
One claim that should never be made is that priests are incorruptable.
Ignoring your ignorance of the English language, you make some rather big ASSumptions about me in your post. You also engage in several insults.
Gee...what a fine Christian you are. Jesus must surely be shining down upon you.
It's "Christians" like you that give Christians a bad name.[/quote]
LOL. You don't believe in God right? So why do you want me to show you Christian love or exhibit Christian behavior? You don't believe in God right? So it shouldn't matter how I treat you or talk to you either. You should never expect me to be a Christian, you should expect me to be like you. Or do you want me to be a Christian when it may favor you? See how's this. Since God don't exist it doesn't matter if I call you a loser. How about if I call you a nobody, which you are by the way. I don't have to be a Christian right, not according to you and a few others here because he doesn't exist and I am weak, right? So weak people usually hurl insults when they become threatened. So I am just going to call all you atheists @ssclowns, lol. I mean what the heck God don't exist anyway so it ain't like I am going to hell or anything, right.
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