Why do weak people always turn to God?

[Ausm]

Originally posted by: rasholianmon

Originally posted by: classy

Originally posted by: rasholianmon

Originally posted by: classy

Well RD I look at this way, I can't be a convicted as hypocrite before God anymore because he doesn't exist. So I just going to go for it. This beast has been wanting to get out for quite sometime. And the black stuff don't matter anymore, because now that I am a new man, you have no idea what I am going to say about white people. Man this no conviction, free license to destroy feeling is great.

Free at Last
Free at Last
Thank MikeyD and Conjur, I am Free at Last

LOL

Fancy a read?

Jehovah's Witness? :thumbsdown:

what is wrong with what's written there? witness or not, that's some very valuable info.

Ok if you know so much about religion in general scroll back a couple of pages and answer my 3 questions.

AUsm

 

[rasholianmon]

Originally posted by: Jero

Originally posted by: Reck
religion is just a form of social control.

I have to disagree with that.

I have to admit that there are a LOT of christians out there who follow God blindly

Why blindly? Because they have been taught/told what to believe...but they have haven't quite found God. They just go through the motions. Some do find GOD though.

Then there are those who are not blind and believe in GOD because they WANT TO. They seem to be the folks who know how to pray the best and realize how God affects their lives.

I was blindly following GOD till a friend had a fun time destroying the foundation I had of my faith.

I actually did not go to church very often.

Then eventually I found GOD. Ever since then, been a very active Church goer. Not going because it's something I "have" to do (like the first 20 years of my childhood) but because i WANT to.

Does this make any sense?

The Churches and their status

 

[rasholianmon]

Originally posted by: Ausm

Ok if you know so much about religion in general scroll back a couple of pages and answer my 3 questions.

AUsm

and what happens if I do? would you mind reposting them, or better yet, you're welcome to PM me.

 

[Ausm]

Originally posted by: Jero

Originally posted by: Reck
religion is just a form of social control.

I have to disagree with that.

I have to admit that there are a LOT of christians out there who follow God blindly

Why blindly? Because they have been taught/told what to believe...but they have haven't quite found God. They just go through the motions. Some do find GOD though.

Then there are those who are not blind and believe in GOD because they WANT TO. They seem to be the folks who know how to pray the best and realize how God affects their lives.

I was blindly following GOD till a friend had a fun time destroying the foundation I had of my faith.

I actually did not go to church very often.

Then eventually I found GOD. Ever since then, been a very active Church goer. Not going because it's something I "have" to do (like the first 20 years of my childhood) but because i WANT to.

Does this make any sense?

Kinda of. I have a brother who bang a billygoat if that is what his pastor would tell him to do. I prefer to use my brain and think for myself.

Ausm

 

[Hyperblaze]

Originally posted by: rasholianmon

Originally posted by: Jero

Originally posted by: Reck
religion is just a form of social control.

I have to disagree with that.

I have to admit that there are a LOT of christians out there who follow God blindly

Why blindly? Because they have been taught/told what to believe...but they have haven't quite found God. They just go through the motions. Some do find GOD though.

Then there are those who are not blind and believe in GOD because they WANT TO. They seem to be the folks who know how to pray the best and realize how God affects their lives.

I was blindly following GOD till a friend had a fun time destroying the foundation I had of my faith.

I actually did not go to church very often.

Then eventually I found GOD. Ever since then, been a very active Church goer. Not going because it's something I "have" to do (like the first 20 years of my childhood) but because i WANT to.

Does this make any sense?

The Churches and their status

Mind you, there are a lot of things about the Church I don't agree with. Doesn't mean I believe any less in GOD because of that.

 

[Ausm]

Originally posted by: rasholianmon

Originally posted by: Ausm

Ok if you know so much about religion in general scroll back a couple of pages and answer my 3 questions.

AUsm

and what happens if I do? would you mind reposting them, or better yet, you're welcome to PM me.

I rather have the public view this conversation because nobody would believe it unless they saw it with their own eyes

Ausm

 

[rasholianmon]

Originally posted by: Ausm
Kinda of. I have a brother who bang a billygoat if that is what his pastor would tell him to do. I prefer to use my brain and think for myself.

Ausm

I'd hope you would. banging billygoats doesn't sound like much fun, I'm sure your brother is not too pleased with that accusation.

that being said, give the Bible a consideration, would you?

 

[rasholianmon]

Originally posted by: Ausm

Originally posted by: rasholianmon

Originally posted by: Ausm

Ok if you know so much about religion in general scroll back a couple of pages and answer my 3 questions.

AUsm

and what happens if I do? would you mind reposting them, or better yet, you're welcome to PM me.

I rather have the public view this conversation because nobody would believe it unless they saw it with their own eyes

Ausm

alrighty, dude... bring on the questions...

 

[Hyperblaze]

Originally posted by: Ausm

Originally posted by: Jero

Originally posted by: Reck
religion is just a form of social control.

I have to disagree with that.

I have to admit that there are a LOT of christians out there who follow God blindly

Why blindly? Because they have been taught/told what to believe...but they have haven't quite found God. They just go through the motions. Some do find GOD though.

Then there are those who are not blind and believe in GOD because they WANT TO. They seem to be the folks who know how to pray the best and realize how God affects their lives.

I was blindly following GOD till a friend had a fun time destroying the foundation I had of my faith.

I actually did not go to church very often.

Then eventually I found GOD. Ever since then, been a very active Church goer. Not going because it's something I "have" to do (like the first 20 years of my childhood) but because i WANT to.

Does this make any sense?

Kinda of. I have a brother who bang a billygoat if that is what his pastor would tell him to do. I prefer to use my brain and think for myself.

Ausm

That is indeed sad. Christians need to be able to think for themselves. I am what you would consider a liberal Catholic.

I've had discussions with conservative catholics and charamastic fundamentals....

Scary......

I cringe every time I hear the words "absolute truths"

I stop hanging out with this girl because she used those words too often and a few time actually trying to impose her values on me. *shrudder*

 

[rasholianmon]

Originally posted by: Jero
That is indeed sad. Christians need to be able to think for themselves. I am what you would consider a liberal Catholic.

I've had discussions with conservative catholics and charamastic fundamentals....

Scary......

I cringe every time I hear the words "absolute truths"

I stop hanging out with this girl because she used those words too often and a few time actually trying to impose her values on me. *shrudder*

explain this scripture, please....

Proverbs 3:5,6 - 5 Trust in Jehovah with all your heart and do not lean upon your own understanding. 6 In all your ways take notice of him, and he himself will make your paths straight.

 

[Babbles]

Originally posted by: Reck
religion is just a form of social control.

There is far worse form of social control out there. Just look at a few billion Chinese and former Soviets when the government outlawed religion and still managed to control society.

 

[thirdlegstump]

I totally agree with the OP. All I hear from crazy people is GOD this that, GOD will SAVE US GOD ETC. ETC.
I'm so sick of this ancient brainwashed CRAP that I believe all religion should be destroyed. Hey maybe with that we'll actually see some social progression.

 

[JackBurton]

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: MisfitsFiend

youre an idiot. some people find great peace in religion. if its not for you, stfu and leave us alone. you dont have to talk about it.

Very well said! What does it matter to you if I turn to God - in both good and bad times?

It does matter to these so-called "atheists". And you know why? Because it's not that they don't believe in God. They do believe in Him (to an extent). The issue is that they hate God. And His followers (which they have not-unjustly stereotyped into people that I too would hate).
You see, in much the same way that many believers seek to prostelyze and attempt to save everyone (unfortunately, they ever want to save people against their will, which is wrong), these non-believers think that, because they will not saved, that no one else should be saved either. Basic psychology here.

The saddest part about both of these opposing sides is that (in general) neither seems to really understand the nature of God, and neither has ever read or understood the Bible...

That is the stupidest sh!t I've heard. I don't believe in the Easter Bunny, do I hate "him" too? Give me a freakin' break.

Trying to get a religious person to be logical about religion, is like trying to explain Calculus to a retarded person. It ain't gonna happen. They'll never get it, because apparently they either lack one of the following:
1. Intellect
2. Courage (it's hard to break away from something that has been ingrained in you since you were a child)

And you can not use that same arguement with most Atheists, because more than likely they were religious at one point in their lives. So they actually can see both perspectives. I sure as hell can. And I can now see religion in its true form, nothing but a huge lie put in place to control and confort the weak minded. Nothing more. I really couldn't care less if people worshipped the Toothfairy, Bigfoot, PeterPan or whatever. The problem comes in when those "rules" are pushed on me. I'd say 90% of the US is Christian based, and let me tell you, they LOVE telling you what to do. From the "Blue Law" when you couldn't buy "sinful" goods on Sundays, to not being able to buy liquor AT ALL in some counties, to the anti-abortion movement, to the media control, to prayer in school and many many more ways to infringe on others rights. Hmmm, I wonder why people dislike Christians. I as an Atheist don't have a problem with Buddist. Hmmm....

 

[Hyperblaze]

Originally posted by: rasholianmon

Originally posted by: Jero
That is indeed sad. Christians need to be able to think for themselves. I am what you would consider a liberal Catholic.

I've had discussions with conservative catholics and charamastic fundamentals....

Scary......

I cringe every time I hear the words "absolute truths"

I stop hanging out with this girl because she used those words too often and a few time actually trying to impose her values on me. *shrudder*

explain this scripture, please....

Proverbs 3:5,6 - 5 Trust in Jehovah with all your heart and do not lean upon your own understanding. 6 In all your ways take notice of him, and he himself will make your paths straight.

Dude, your bible notation doesn't make sense. Proverbs chapter 3? verse 5? 6-5?

 

[Megatomic]

Originally posted by: deathkoba
I totally agree with the OP. All I hear from crazy people is GOD this that, GOD will SAVE US GOD ETC. ETC.
I'm so sick of this ancient brainwashed CRAP that I believe all religion should be destroyed. Hey maybe with that we'll actually see some social progression.

Yeah, they tried that in the USSR and PRC. Guess what? USSR is no more and religion still exists in PRC.

 

[CaptainGoodnight]

Originally posted by: rasholianmon

Originally posted by: Jero

Originally posted by: Reck
religion is just a form of social control.

I have to disagree with that.

I have to admit that there are a LOT of christians out there who follow God blindly

Why blindly? Because they have been taught/told what to believe...but they have haven't quite found God. They just go through the motions. Some do find GOD though.

Then there are those who are not blind and believe in GOD because they WANT TO. They seem to be the folks who know how to pray the best and realize how God affects their lives.

I was blindly following GOD till a friend had a fun time destroying the foundation I had of my faith.

I actually did not go to church very often.

Then eventually I found GOD. Ever since then, been a very active Church goer. Not going because it's something I "have" to do (like the first 20 years of my childhood) but because i WANT to.

Does this make any sense?

The Churches and their status

As a Catholic, I have always found the Necessarily's Witness to be a strange bunch. Catholics believe that people are only saved by the "Grace of God". Going out and converting people won't necessarily save them.

 

[Hyperblaze]

Originally posted by: CaptainGoodnight

Originally posted by: rasholianmon

Originally posted by: Jero

Originally posted by: Reck
religion is just a form of social control.

I have to disagree with that.

I have to admit that there are a LOT of christians out there who follow God blindly

Why blindly? Because they have been taught/told what to believe...but they have haven't quite found God. They just go through the motions. Some do find GOD though.

Then there are those who are not blind and believe in GOD because they WANT TO. They seem to be the folks who know how to pray the best and realize how God affects their lives.

I was blindly following GOD till a friend had a fun time destroying the foundation I had of my faith.

I actually did not go to church very often.

Then eventually I found GOD. Ever since then, been a very active Church goer. Not going because it's something I "have" to do (like the first 20 years of my childhood) but because i WANT to.

Does this make any sense?

The Churches and their status

As a Catholic, I have always found the Necessarily's Witness to be a strange bunch. Catholics believe that people are only saved by the "Grace of God". Going out and converting people won't necessarily save them.

To be perfectly honest, I do believe that there are probably lots of Catholics out there who wouldn't even believe I'm a catholic. Just because I don't think in black and white.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: classy
I am a new man, you have no idea what I am going to say about white people.

LOL, I think I have an idea:laugh:

 

[rasholianmon]

Originally posted by: CaptainGoodnight

Originally posted by: rasholianmon

Originally posted by: Jero

Originally posted by: Reck
religion is just a form of social control.

I have to disagree with that.

I have to admit that there are a LOT of christians out there who follow God blindly

Why blindly? Because they have been taught/told what to believe...but they have haven't quite found God. They just go through the motions. Some do find GOD though.

Then there are those who are not blind and believe in GOD because they WANT TO. They seem to be the folks who know how to pray the best and realize how God affects their lives.

I was blindly following GOD till a friend had a fun time destroying the foundation I had of my faith.

I actually did not go to church very often.

Then eventually I found GOD. Ever since then, been a very active Church goer. Not going because it's something I "have" to do (like the first 20 years of my childhood) but because i WANT to.

Does this make any sense?

The Churches and their status

As a Catholic, I have always found the Necessarily's Witness to be a strange bunch. Catholics believe that people are only saved by the "Grace of God". Going out and converting people won't necessarily save them.

how do you explain the Spanish inquisition?

and Witnesses don't convert people. people make their own choice to embrace the truth. Witnesses preach the good news, but if a person doesn't want to listen, they will shake the dust of their feet and move on to the next door.

has a witness ever broken into your house? have witnesses ever commandeered any television stations with 24 hour prayer hotline networks? do witnesses invite politicians over to their church along with CNN for the cheap pub?

trust you me, there are far worse groups and organizations than Jehovah's people.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: Megatomic

Originally posted by: deathkoba
I totally agree with the OP. All I hear from crazy people is GOD this that, GOD will SAVE US GOD ETC. ETC.
I'm so sick of this ancient brainwashed CRAP that I believe all religion should be destroyed. Hey maybe with that we'll actually see some social progression.

Yeah, they tried that in the USSR and PRC. Guess what? USSR is no more and religion still exists in PRC.

Hell in the USSR they killed as many Atheists as they did religious folks.

 

[Attrox]

Originally posted by: JackBurton
That is the stupidest sh!t I've heard. I don't believe in the Easter Bunny, do I hate "him" too? Give me a freakin' break.

Trying to get a religious person to be logical about religion, is like trying to explain Calculus to a retarded person. It ain't gonna happen. They'll never get it, because apparently they either lack one of the following:
1. Intellect
2. Courage (it's hard to break away from something that has been ingrained in you since you were a child)

And you can not use that same arguement with most Atheists, because more than likely they were religious at one point in their lives. So they actually can see both perspectives. I sure as hell can. And I can now see religion in its true form, nothing but a huge lie put in place to control and confort the weak minded. Nothing more. I really couldn't care less if people worshipped the Toothfairy, Bigfoot, PeterPan or whatever. The problem comes in when those "rules" are pushed on me. I'd say 90% of the US is Christian based, and let me tell you, they LOVE telling you what to do. From the "Blue Law" when you couldn't buy "sinful" goods on Sundays, to not being able to buy liquor AT ALL in some counties, to the anti-abortion movement, to the media control, to prayer in school and many many more ways to infringe on others rights. Hmmm, I wonder why people dislike Christians. I as an Atheist don't have a problem with Buddist. Hmmm....

Now, now.. what's with the attack? Are you saying all people that have a religion is either stupid or not courageous? I'm just wondering whether that includes Fire Fighter that died on duty or Soldiers that died in the war too? I've met intellectual & courageous people both religious or atheist.

Aren't your post sounding like one of those people who try to have "rules" pushed on other people?

 

[piasabird]

Those who deny the power of God can never feel the power of God in this world. It takes faith to feel the Love and power of God!

 

[rasholianmon]

there are many religions, but only one way to truly serve the creator....

 

[Injury]

I've said it before and I'll say it again:
Regardless of whether God exisits or not following a moral code that reflects that of a Catholic makes me feel better... not because I know there is a God or anything like that, but because I know that I'm doing what is RIGHT.


All people in all religions or lack therof can understand that things like murder, stealing and cheating are wrong, so what is the big deal with how some people help remind themselves of this?


So what if a "weak" person turns to God? So what if they need someone to help them get back on their feet? If believing in God helps them turn their life around, who really gives a crap how they do it?


MichaelD, you are no different than the people who try to cram religion down your face or scream that you're going to hell because you don't believe. There are two ends of the spectrum. Why do you have to bring up such a fit over something that you believe you are so correct in?


Sometimes people act like this is some sort of freaking competion or something... it's ridiculous.

 

[rasholianmon]

Originally posted by: Injury
I've said it before and I'll say it again:
Regardless of whether God exisits or not following a moral code that reflects that of a Catholic makes me feel better... not because I know there is a God or anything like that, but because I know that I'm doing what is RIGHT.


All people in all religions or lack therof can understand that things like murder, stealing and cheating are wrong, so what is the big deal with how some people help remind themselves of this?


So what if a "weak" person turns to God? So what if they need someone to help them get back on their feet? If believing in God helps them turn their life around, who really gives a crap how they do it?


MichaelD, you are no different than the people who try to cram religion down your face or scream that you're going to hell because you don't believe. There are two ends of the spectrum. Why do you have to bring up such a fit over something that you believe you are so correct in?


Sometimes people act like this is some sort of freaking competion or something... it's ridiculous.

you do know that the use of rosary beads and the veneration of the virgin mary and the saints amount to idolatry, right?