Why do weak people always turn to God?

[xSkyDrAx]

Originally posted by: MichaelD
Doesn't anyone have any backbone anymore? It just seems that when faced with a problem; rent is due, drug addiction, marital problems...many people turn to "God" to help them solve all their problems.

Why doesn't the average Joe see that "God" is just an imaginary CRUTCH? If you want to quit drinking, only YOU CAN MAKE YOU QUIT DRINKING. If you want to stop beating your dog, ONLY YOU CAN MAKE YOU STOP BEATING THE DOG.

God won't save your marriage, pay the bills or wash your car. God also WILL NOT "give you the strength" to do any of the above.

If you're a weak person, admit you're weak and learn to be strong on your own. Leave The Good Book where it belongs; gathering dust in a seedy motel nightstand drawer.

amen to that :beer:

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

So Mike,

How long did it take you to come up with this one

 

[timosyy]

Originally posted by: HotChic

Originally posted by: MySoS

Originally posted by: Megatomic
What I want to know is why are "men" today so afraid of and negative towards God?

How can one be negative towards some mythological sky fairy that doesn't exist.

I believe in God and I don't feel the need to insult or bait athiests. I wish the respect could be mutual. With many people it is. There's no logical reason for you to feel so irritated by something that you believe doesn't exist, right?

And honestly, i've seen this over and over and over again. Threads about religion get old after a while .. does anyone actually believe they'd convert a christian to become an athiest and vice versa by yelling at them and spitting out random crap ?

seriously, now.

 

[everman]

I think the turkey is done.

 

[timosyy]

^
could toss a freaking cow in here if this goes on any longer

 

[ToeStub]

Testing 1, 2 3. OK

 

[aidanjm]

Originally posted by: loki8481
whatever.

:roll:

You know it's true, Loki8481. Give up that Crutch, you'll find you stand much taller without it.

 

[SacrosanctFiend]

Originally posted by: aidanjm

Originally posted by: loki8481
whatever.

:roll:

You know it's true, Loki8481. Give up that Crutch, you'll find you stand much taller without it.

No way. I always would lift myself up and balance on my crutches so I'd be at least 6" taller than before.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Originally posted by: aidanjm

Originally posted by: loki8481
whatever.

:roll:

You know it's true, Loki8481. Give up that Crutch, you'll find you stand much taller without it.

Odd, but the strongest woman I ever knew was a devout Christian. She died of cancer, yet was able to help others dying thinking little of herself, and handled her death better than most brave soldiers. She stood taller than the whole of the NBA.

I hope I am that weak.

 

[dc]

the trolls are out in force tonight. grade A flamebait material.

wonder what the aftermath of this one will look like. heh.

 

[yllus]

I am a big believer in self-sufficiency, though I don't claim to be at an acceptable level of it myself yet.

Religion...an excuse to look at the terrifying and likely quite realistic scenario that when you're dead, you're just dead. Your essence becomes unbound to your body and you rot in silence for eternity. I mean, give me a break. Hell if you're naughty, heaven if you're not. It amazes me sometimes that adults believe in this stuff.

I think there's an obvious reason that belief in God increases in the world in times of hardship. It's a nice mental escape from the squalor of one's immediate existence. I prefer simply living life for myself uncumbered by ridiculous arbitrary rules written in ancient texts. If God is half as merciful and accepting as we're all gonna need him to be, he'll understand my reasons for living my life this way and let me on my way.

 

[aidanjm]

Originally posted by: yllus
I am a big believer in self-sufficiency, though I don't claim to be at an acceptable level of it myself yet.

Religion...an excuse to look at the terrifying and likely quite realistic scenario that when you're dead, you're just dead. Your essence becomes unbound to your body and you rot in silence for eternity. I mean, give me a break. Hell if you're naughty, heaven if you're not. It amazes me sometimes that adults believe in this stuff.

I think there's an obvious reason that belief in God increases in the world in times of hardship. It's a nice mental escape from the squalor of one's immediate existence. I prefer simply living life for myself uncumbered by ridiculous arbitrary rules written in ancient texts. If God is half as merciful and accepting as we're all gonna need him to be, he'll understand my reasons for living my life this way and let me on my way.

Correct.

 

[ToeStub]

It is always interesting to witness the rantings of children throwing tantrums over what they want regardless of the consequences of their cravings. Spoiled little brats with good educations thinking that the teachings they have witnessed are the truth, the whole truth and the only truth. How naive.

Think twice, because there is more than one reality in our lives. Unexplained events occur with no rational explanation. A very few people add greatly to the human experience while the rest seem to be only supporting charachters in an unwritten play.

Do not dismiss the unexplained, it does exist.

 

[tjaisv]

Originally posted by: Orsorum
I am weak and frail, but in that weakness I find my strength. Accepting weakness means admitting my inability to control certain aspects of my life, and admitting that sometimes I get scared and anxious about the future and about my fate. Then I cry a little, drink a beer, go for a run, or sleep. Then I wake up and face the day and my troubles. There's no other way I can do it. The process of admitting weakness and crying out to God when I was Christian garnered me the same results that I receive now from crying out to my own soul.

sounds lonely crying out to your own soul

i guess at least with God i can cry out and have faith He's there and listening...

 

[aidanjm]

Originally posted by: tjaisv

Originally posted by: Orsorum
I am weak and frail, but in that weakness I find my strength. Accepting weakness means admitting my inability to control certain aspects of my life, and admitting that sometimes I get scared and anxious about the future and about my fate. Then I cry a little, drink a beer, go for a run, or sleep. Then I wake up and face the day and my troubles. There's no other way I can do it. The process of admitting weakness and crying out to God when I was Christian garnered me the same results that I receive now from crying out to my own soul.

sounds lonely crying out to your own soul

i guess at least with God i can cry out and have faith He's there and listening...

Yes, it is lonely sometimes. But that is the price of self-awareness/ being human.

 

[mcveigh]

politics and news should be changed to include religon as well, I don't want to hear his crap.

 

[Orsorum]

Originally posted by: aidanjm

Originally posted by: tjaisv

Originally posted by: Orsorum
I am weak and frail, but in that weakness I find my strength. Accepting weakness means admitting my inability to control certain aspects of my life, and admitting that sometimes I get scared and anxious about the future and about my fate. Then I cry a little, drink a beer, go for a run, or sleep. Then I wake up and face the day and my troubles. There's no other way I can do it. The process of admitting weakness and crying out to God when I was Christian garnered me the same results that I receive now from crying out to my own soul.

sounds lonely crying out to your own soul

i guess at least with God i can cry out and have faith He's there and listening...

Yes, it is lonely sometimes. But that is the price of self-awareness/ being human.

Loneliness is temporary. Awareness lasts for a lifetime.

 

[ToeStub]

True lonliness is facing oblivion with absolutely no hope.

 

[aidanjm]

Originally posted by: ToeStub
True lonliness is facing oblivion with absolutely no hope.

No hope of what?

 

[Insane3D]

Originally posted by: xcript
Uh-oh spaghettios.

DON'T PANIC!!

:laugh: :laugh:

 

[Beau]

Originally posted by: MichaelD
/breaks out protest signs, megaphone and extra batteries

The great thing about the good old USA is that we are all free to express our thoughts. I don't look down on the guy that worships trees...that's his bag. I worship nothing and nobody/nothing. I fly my own course.

No, that's the great thing about the gift of freewill that was given to us by God: We're not forced to believe in him.

 

[ToeStub]

Originally posted by: aidanjm

Originally posted by: ToeStub
True lonliness is facing oblivion with absolutely no hope.

No hope of what?

Exactly. Hope doesn't need a definition because it gives people the will to keep trudging forward. Without it a person would just lay down and give up. Hope, that's what it's all about.

 

[yllus]

Originally posted by: ToeStub
True lonliness is facing oblivion with absolutely no hope.

What's truly sad is that all some people do is worry about death when by all accounts it is unavoidable. Oblivion will come for you, and it'll come for me. While you restrict enjoying your life unnecessarily with countless archaic rules, I'll live my life in my own way and will worry about death when it comes knocking.

You have a one-in-a-thousandth chance of having picked or been raised in that one true correct religion. You can't tell me you've explored the religions of the world and know absolutely that you won't feel a stronger connection to God in one of them than you might feel now - you've simply presuming quite arrogantly that you hit upon the right theology. So, would your God be merciful and allow into Heaven a Jew? A Muslim? A Hindu? Is He going to be pissed that I might call him Allah instead of God? It's far too ridiculous to state that a merciful God would shove good, honest people off to Hell merely for believing with some different slant.

If there truly is a merciful God, logically all he's gonna have is some minimum requirements for getting past the pearly gates. Never caused a fellow human grievious pain, or death...the big stuff. You really think "never fscked a person of the same gender" is going to make the list? It's a wee bit doubtful to anyone who thinks in greater terms than a highly-touted fiction novel.

 

[ToeStub]

Originally posted by: yllus

Originally posted by: ToeStub
True lonliness is facing oblivion with absolutely no hope.

What's truly sad is that all some people do is worry about death when by all accounts it is unavoidable. Oblivion will come for you, and it'll come for me. While you restrict enjoying your life unnecessarily with countless archaic rules, I'll live my life in my own way and will worry about death when it comes knocking.

You have a one-in-a-thousandth chance of having picked or been raised in that one true correct religion. You can't tell me you've explored the religions of the world and know absolutely that you won't feel a stronger connection to God in one of them than you might feel now - you've simply presuming quite arrogantly that you hit upon the right theology. So, would your God be merciful and allow into Heaven a Jew? A Muslim? A Hindu? Is He going to be pissed that I might call him Allah instead of God? It's far too ridiculous to state that a merciful God would shove good, honest people off to Hell merely for believing with some different slant.

If there truly is a merciful God, logically all he's gonna have is some minimum requirements for getting past the pearly gates. Never caused a fellow human grievious pain, or death...the big stuff. You really think "never fscked a person of the same gender" is going to make the list? It's a wee bit doubtful to anyone who thinks in greater terms than a highly-touted fiction novel.

You presume too much, my friend. I have expressed that I have hope and perhaps that I believe. I never said that I embrace a religion of any sort. Don't put the cart before the horse.

 

[yllus]

Originally posted by: ToeStub
You presume too much, my friend. I have expressed that I have hope and perhaps that I believe. I never said that I embrace a religion of any sort. Don't put the cart before the horse.

*laugh* What a copout. Can't take the rigour of organized religion so you water it down and adopt some sort of personal belief system that takes the best of everything you want the big guy in the sky to be like, huh? Your odds after you croak are just as bad as mine.