Why do weak ppl turn to god ?
Who says they do ?
Define weak >?
What makes you think they have not already turned to God but just havnt been open about it >?
Who says they do ?
Define weak >?
What makes you think they have not already turned to God but just havnt been open about it >?
WTF happened to separation of church and state? You not happy with money going toward a new road that you think didn't need to be repaved is one thing, but this is a complete violation of C&S. All the poor Christians in this thread complaining, "hey, what do we ever do to anyone? We are just poor little innocent little Christians that just want to keep to ourselves and worship who we want." Well that would be fine, but apparently, I'm now supporting their brainwashing campaign. And let me tell you, I HIGHLY doubt ANY money was going toward a Muslim or Buddist based organization. Little bullsh!t like this makes people resent the Christian community. This is just another example of them trying to force their beliefs on others. And now they have the government helping them out. :|
What, you can't help people out without the constant annoying "Jesus saves" chant?
Red Dawn
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It's not as if they are building Churches and Communes in French Guiana with those funds.
If you need that kind of help the last thing that should bother you is "annoying Jesus saves chants". Look I don't trust those faith based charities either but I don't condemn all who happen to be Christians because of them. IMO the Fundies and the EvangaWhackos are not your average Christian, they, like some Athiests, are extremists, best to ignore.
Who do you think put the "Blue Law" (can't buy goods on Sundays) in place? Why do we have dry counties (and I'm not even a drinker)? Those are just a couple of examples of Christians trying to force everyone to abide by THEIR rules. You support them, and it will only make them stronger. The stronger they get, the less freedoms you will have, guaranteed. Take a look at the Christians' history. They are not known to play well with others of different beliefs.
So I think it would be better to have the money to go build "Churches and Communes in French Guiana," instead of giving them more power than they already have here in the US.
blackinches thinks that nobody should push their beliefs on others. what does it matter if you are religious or not can't we all just get along?
For one that is like saying we should just accept diseases like the flu. Christianity, Islam, ect are very much like the flu. For the most part they spread doing some damage but not much, but then once in a while they go on a killing spree and kill millions. These religions are just like disease, and you can't be tolerant towards a disease. You have to fight to eradicate it.
Hey, you've just explained why GOD created that 9.0 earthquake and tsunami. He was killing the Muslims because of their support for the recent killing sprees on the westerners. See, God does work in mysterious ways.
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Originally posted by: Yax
Hey, you've just explained why GOD created that 9.0 earthquake and tsunami. He was killing the Muslims because of their support for the recent killing sprees on the westerners. See, God does work in mysterious ways.
That sad thing is that some crazy religious folk actually believe that's true!
Nice flame seed, MichaelD.
Religion was designed so that it could not be disproven. Thats why they call it faith. Thats why its so effective.
Notice I did not say who designed it: it doesn't have to be mere mortals.
Religion was designed so that it could not be disproven. Thats why they call it faith. Thats why its so effective.
Notice I did not say who designed it: it doesn't have to be mere mortals.
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Shake off all the fears of servile prejudices, under which weak minds are servilely crouched. Fix reason firmly in her seat, and call on her tribunal for every fact, every opinion. Question with boldness even the existence of a God; because, if there be one, he must more approve of the homage of reason than that of blindfolded fear.
Thomas Jefferson
"Why do I make room in my mind for such filth and nonsense? Do I hope that if feeling disguises itself as thought I shall feel less? Aren?t all these notes the senseless writhings of a man who won?t accept the fact that there is nothing we can do with suffering except to suffer it? Who still thinks there is some device (if only he could find it) which will make pain not to be pain. It doesn?t really matter whether you grip the arms of the dentist?s chair or let your hands lie in your lap. The drill drills on." - C. S. Lewis
Thomas Jefferson
"Why do I make room in my mind for such filth and nonsense? Do I hope that if feeling disguises itself as thought I shall feel less? Aren?t all these notes the senseless writhings of a man who won?t accept the fact that there is nothing we can do with suffering except to suffer it? Who still thinks there is some device (if only he could find it) which will make pain not to be pain. It doesn?t really matter whether you grip the arms of the dentist?s chair or let your hands lie in your lap. The drill drills on." - C. S. Lewis
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Easy. A spiritual being gives people hope and faith. It makes them believe. I got everything I asked for when I prayed.
I'll tell you this. In my life time I was suppose to die 3 times. Once at birth when the doctors said my mother could never give birth to a child again. Another was a car accident when I went head onto a SUV at 45 MPH and both me and the other victums got out un harmed. And most importantly, I'm also a survivor of cancer, and there is not one cancer cell left in my bone marrow. Coincidental? Maybe. But I like to believe that someone is trying to keep me a live up there.
My faith goes stronger everyday. One time I even prayed to god to help me find a girl for me so I wouldn't have to suffer the depression of being alone. And soon after - I meet a girl who is from the same town as me, beautiful as can be, and is earning her masters degree at a top NJ school.
By all means, I hate the catholic church, but I love the faith. All my life it seems I had a guardian angel by my side. And I will never let my faith go.
I'll tell you this. In my life time I was suppose to die 3 times. Once at birth when the doctors said my mother could never give birth to a child again. Another was a car accident when I went head onto a SUV at 45 MPH and both me and the other victums got out un harmed. And most importantly, I'm also a survivor of cancer, and there is not one cancer cell left in my bone marrow. Coincidental? Maybe. But I like to believe that someone is trying to keep me a live up there.
My faith goes stronger everyday. One time I even prayed to god to help me find a girl for me so I wouldn't have to suffer the depression of being alone. And soon after - I meet a girl who is from the same town as me, beautiful as can be, and is earning her masters degree at a top NJ school.
By all means, I hate the catholic church, but I love the faith. All my life it seems I had a guardian angel by my side. And I will never let my faith go.
dude, what's the difference. some find strength in themselves, some find it in god. both gives them strength, it's not they're relying on god to do their work, thy're using it as a tool so they can do what needs to be done imo.
as far as ppl who do not believe getting more and more denfensive, it's probably because there are more and more religious people out there. some respects all, some want to change this land and its laws to reflect their beliefs that are based on their religion. and when you feel like your live can be affected, you get defensive.
I personally hate anything that has to do with religion, that does not mean i don't think there's a god or supreme being. no one here can prove or disprove. but imo, religion does not equal god. I'll go as far as saying the bible is science fiction. but i will never argue with you on weather god exsist.
but yea, someone got an extra lawn chair? i brought beer.
as far as ppl who do not believe getting more and more denfensive, it's probably because there are more and more religious people out there. some respects all, some want to change this land and its laws to reflect their beliefs that are based on their religion. and when you feel like your live can be affected, you get defensive.
I personally hate anything that has to do with religion, that does not mean i don't think there's a god or supreme being. no one here can prove or disprove. but imo, religion does not equal god. I'll go as far as saying the bible is science fiction. but i will never argue with you on weather god exsist.
but yea, someone got an extra lawn chair? i brought beer.
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*whistles*
Wooow. :Q Not the longest OT thread in history...but getting there.
I knew my OP would raise some hackles, but I never thought it would blow up this big! Lots of good arguments here...and lots of bashing too. That's good; free speech is a beautiful thing.
FWIW, those of you that know me, know my style of communication; I'm very direct and say what's on my mind. The beauty of this place is that I don't have to be Politically Correct. Unlike with my work or family/friend dealings where I have to bite my tongue.
My OP was a dead serious question/opinion/observation. (However you want to perceive it...)
Later.
Wooow. :Q Not the longest OT thread in history...but getting there.
I knew my OP would raise some hackles, but I never thought it would blow up this big! Lots of good arguments here...and lots of bashing too. That's good; free speech is a beautiful thing.
FWIW, those of you that know me, know my style of communication; I'm very direct and say what's on my mind. The beauty of this place is that I don't have to be Politically Correct. Unlike with my work or family/friend dealings where I have to bite my tongue.
My OP was a dead serious question/opinion/observation. (However you want to perceive it...)
Later.
Pliablemoose
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