why do republicans have their heads up their as$

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Raspewtin

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<< It wasn't until the Congress went back to total Democratic control that the spending in the budget went up and outpaced the growth of the economy. >>



Reagan didn't put his John Handcock on those budgets? :eek: I didn't know they were passed by overriding his veto
 

Nutdotnet

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What does your age have to do anything? Well considering that the crap that you posts make you sound like an immature kid that is looking for attention I wanted to see how you were.

 

XMan

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First, repubs, 300 bucks aint jack $hit in this economy.

BULLSH!T! You don't think millions of people spending or saving $300 or more in a short time period won't give the economy a jump start? What's the population of our country, a couple hundred million? Multiply that times three hundred bucks, and that is a heck of a lot of extra capital going into the world.

The tax cut negotiated still favors the rich, and not the starving, but there is some temperance in it.

Okay, try and follow along here. The top 10% of wage earners pay 90% of all taxes. Thus, if you cut taxes, obviously the people that are footing the lion's share of the bill are going to get more money. You can't cut taxes for the lower class that they aren't paying! Do you want to take money from the wealthy and redistribute it to the poor? Congratulations, welcome to a Communist form of government.
 

PCResources

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<< Sheesh.... I'll add Ameesh to the list of braindead morons who don't have the ability to think for themselves and instead have to resort to regurgitating the crap information fed to them by pinko media and other fringe groups. >>



Well, this seems like a great response, you don't have to do anything at all, just call hime a moron.

And what about that pinko media, is that the media that you do not agree with, maybe all of the media, and other fringe groups, is that ever group of people besides you and your friends?

Sigh, well, if we should ever stop and look at what we are breathing, and how hard we are trying to destroy it, well then, maybe we would have no problem with the prohibitions that increase costs and the laws that prohibits pollutions.

I for one hope that we will see this pollution stopped before it is to late, do you really want to be a part of the last generation?

Patrick
 

PCResources

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<< Do you want to take money from the wealthy and redistribute it to the poor? Congratulations, welcome to a Communist form of government. >>



Ehhh, well, maybe you should get some more info on the communist form of government.

It surely has NOTHING at all to do with what you stated and redistributing money from the rich to the poor has NOTHING AT ALL to do with communism.

Unless you think that all the poor people work for the government and all the rich for privately held companies.

Patrick
 

Maetryx

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Maetryx here, :cool:


<< And have you actually been to the area of alaska that republicans want to dig? Republicans claim there is nothing there but democrats want to preserve it. Choose what you want to believe. >>



This is not in any way directed at the individual I'm quoting, because the quote does not reveal anything about the person's view of the issue.

I don't have to choose a belief based on hearsay. I've been there. ANWR (rhymes with Anne Bar) aka the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge is 99% arctic wasteland. It is a big, flat tundra. It has one native village in it up on the arctic ocean. It is bigger than some east coast states. Exploratory drilling would NOT hurt the environement to any degree worth noting. Put it in perspective. IT IS AS BIG AS A FVKING STATE. How could doing some exploratory drilling hurt something that big? And the drillers are completely bound by all state and federal environmental regulations.

You have to be absolutely ignorant about the size and location of ANWR to get worked up over it.
 

etech

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That is a good point Maetryx. I've heard many people say that &quot;drilling will destroy the refuge&quot;

I have never seen one say how.
 

Tominator

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<< he Reagan tax cuts caused the deficit to explode, and Bill Clinton's economic record has been better than Reagan's. >>



That's a crock! There was no increase in the deficit until AFTER Reagan was out of office and THAT was caused by a tax and spend Democrat Congress that refused to honor the bargains made with Reagan.

As a percentage of the GNP the deficit did not increase by much at all. More Liberal pap!

Tell me ONE, just ONE thing Clinton did to better our economy...other than ride the coatails of Reagan and Bush.

Seems some with degrees in economics need to go back to school!
 

Ferocious

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FACT:

Ronald Reagan enjoyed a conservative Congress. During his first six years as President, the Senate was controlled by Republicans and the House was controlled by a combination of Republicans and Reagan-Democrats.

The Reagan irresponsible budgets were because of Republicans and conservatives alike.


 

Mikal

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Red Dawn sums it up nicely. Both parties are whores for special interests.
 

Tominator

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Ferocious

Everyone was desparate for leadership when Reagan won by a landslide. Carter had failed in every way possible. Double digit inflation, high unemployment, price controls that did not control beans. We even had a 'Misery Index!'

Reagan had a mandate to change things. Democrats were only too happy to let someone besides themselves try something. That way they had someone to blame besides themselves.

The Democrats tried every trick in the book to catch Reagan and demogogue him at every turn. He was hardly a favorite of the House!

The Democrats did not uphold their bargains and THAT led to the deficit.
 

Pastore

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Ameesh, Thanks for inslting me, asshole...

Just because you disagree with what a few republicans say, doesn't mean you can dismiss the entire political party and say that they all have their heads stuck up their ass... That, my friend is ignorant...
 

ToBeMe

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<< why do republicans have their heads up their as$ >>



They saw the Democrats with theirs in the same location for the last several years and figured it must work!;);):):)
 

Phokus

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Rofl DoubleL, you think some random webpage with questionable credentials proves me wrong? Try again.
 

Toolman

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If, and I say if, the Republicans have their heads up their butts, it's only to better understand why the Democrats enjoy keeping theirs up their hypocritical a$$ so much!!!
 

soapdish

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Pre &amp; post Reagan years?


So that would be Carter (no argument there, dam oil embargo), and Bush SR?


I notice you didn't mention the Clinton years. Cause the Clinton years, especially the last three, saw unprecedented growth while LOWERING the national debt (Reagans sacrificed the national debt to achieve his economic growth). Is that some more of Tominators &quot;Truth&quot;?


That's what I love about you mindless republicans, you just through whatever sh!t you want out there, and expect everybody to run up to it with spoons in their hands ready to eat it up. Sorry. No dice.

Take a look at you and Tominator. You have it so damn easy. To you, every problem in the world is the result of some liberal conspiracy. Well, I doubt you could even define what a liberal is, but that won't stop you from labeling and degrading them. Hell, the Nazi's did the same thing, they blamed all the world's problems on the Jews, and then rationalized eradicating them as being just. You and Tominator are just as sick with your gross generalizations. People like you give the US a bad name. Intolerant. Arrogant. Wrong.
 

Tominator

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Thanks soapdish! Coming from you that's a compliment!

Look at any graph of the expansion during Clinton. Notice how steep the climb after Republicans took over the House?

I'm still waiting for ANYONE to tell us exactly what Clinton did that makes him responsible for the economic times of the past....no energy policy put our economy in the tank....The last year of Clinton was a joke as most of us saw the slowdown coming. He did what no one thought possible...lose the election for Gore and lost BOTH houses of Congress. That just isn't supposed to happen.

Clinton was a POS as a President.

..and at last a Liberal shows their true colors....Nazi huh...
 

Gooberlx2

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I've heard many people say that &quot;drilling will destroy the refuge&quot;

I wouldn't mind it if our country was able to do something to lower gas prices. (which puts $$$ into consumer pockets for other things, which the stimulates the economy...right? Whatever, I don't know someone needs to explain that to me) Anyway, I'm curious as to how they want to contstruct the whole system. Are they going to be using huge lines that transport the oil along the terraine, like the immense gas lines? If that's the case it may screw up migratory routes because it can possibly act as a barrier. Also, heat generated from those lines can attract animals because it provides small relief from the cold. These lines are also often located near some road or highway, which could increase the number of traffic accidents if motorists hit the large animals. So...I believe that's how it could affect the environment.
 

Tominator

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Gooberlx2

Those possibilities have been solved with experience gained by the drilling we've already done in Alaska. Where migratory routes are, the pipeline is raised off the ground. Wildlife can go under.

The heat generated also has the effect of causing a growth in elk's food supply. Their population is booming in the ares where a pipeline has been built.

As far a accidents, everyone there knows that wildlife has the right-of-way. Combine that with not much traffic and there ceases to be any problem.
 

4824guy

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<< Because just like the Demoncrats they are bought and paid for by Special Interests groups. >>



Just like the wealty fat cat oil millionaires that went to the Vice Presidents house for a fund raising party as they say &quot;thank you&quot; for donating to his campaign and getting Bush elected. And Don't forget the oil compnaies that gave so much money to GW Bush's early campaing that he was the record breaking canidate to have the largest amount of money in his campaign war chest. Even though he was only a governor for 5 years at that point in time. The oil companies are in Bush's back pocket, make no mistake about that.



The below text is From a newsarticle I spoted the other day.


&quot;Here is a list of some of the biggest energy industry donors to the
Republican party during Preznit Dubya's campaign:

ENRON - $1,800,000.00
EXXON - $1,200,000.00
KOCH INDUSTRIES - $970,000.00
SOUTHERN POWER - $900,000.00
BP AMOCO - $800,000.00
LEHMAN BROTHERS - $808,000.00
EL PASO ENERGY - $787,000.00
CHEVRON OIL CORP - $780,000.00
RELIANT ENERGY - $642,000.00
TEXAS UTILITIES TXU - $635,000.00


Alcoa's former CEO Paul O'Neill is making new friends - Bush named him
Secretary of the US Treasury - so O'Neill has to sell off his Alcoa shares -
he'll get about $100 million. Alcoa made a $100,000 contribution to the Bush
Cheney inaugural. They told us this was in honor of Paul O'Neill. He's also
on Vice President Dick Cheney's &quot;Energy Group.&quot;

Apart from Paul O'Neill, the committee includes Bush's Commerce Secretary Don
Evans - he was CEO of Tom Brown Inc a billion dollar oil and gas company, and
Energy Secretary Spencer Abraham, a motor industry favorite - they gave him
$700,000 last year... and of course Dick Cheney, the Vice President, former
boss of Halliburton which builds nuclear power plants and is the world's
largest oil services company. And what a coincidence. Today, the Cheney group
recommended building more nukes, drilling more oil and burning more coal.

&quot;
&quot;


 

sandorski

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Hmm, anybody been paying attention to Texas? Due to failure of Bush's ideas in Texas, the Texas government is currently reversing many of Bush's policies. Coincidently, many of the same policies are still being promoted by Bush. This time not on the State level, but the National level. Hmmm.