Why do people on the left only discuss bad news

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: Bowfinger
That's the problem with people who think for themselves. The right has a much easier job. They fabricate their talking points, then dutifully parrot them in perfect unison.

We're not talking about "talking point memos" here Bowfinger - I was talking about Election ideas. You know, the new ideas that the Republicans have been offering - not the same old same old recycled ones the democrats have been using as of late.

CsG

 

[BBond]

New ideas from the Republicans!???

The Republicans have been recycling the same old tired oligarchic ideas forever. Don't be ridiculous (as if you had a choice).

 

[Bowfinger]

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: Bowfinger
That's the problem with people who think for themselves. The right has a much easier job. They fabricate their talking points, then dutifully parrot them in perfect unison.

We're not talking about "talking point memos" here Bowfinger - I was talking about Election ideas. You know, the new ideas that the Republicans have been offering - not the same old same old recycled ones the democrats have been using as of late.

CsG

Oh yes, the "Democrats have no new ideas" canard. That's number 17 on the official Republican propaganda list, IIRC. Nicely parroted. Have a cracker.

 

[BBond]

Originally posted by: Bowfinger

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: Bowfinger
That's the problem with people who think for themselves. The right has a much easier job. They fabricate their talking points, then dutifully parrot them in perfect unison.

We're not talking about "talking point memos" here Bowfinger - I was talking about Election ideas. You know, the new ideas that the Republicans have been offering - not the same old same old recycled ones the democrats have been using as of late.

CsG

Oh yes, the "Democrats have no new ideas" canard. That's number 17 on the official Republican propaganda list, IIRC. Nicely parroted. Have a cracker.

The Democrats ideas brought us out of the Reagan/Bush recession only to have junior put us right back on the road to economic ruin at twice the speed of his inept, incompetent, out of touch father.

God save us from those Republican "new" ideas.

:roll:

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: Bowfinger

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: Bowfinger
That's the problem with people who think for themselves. The right has a much easier job. They fabricate their talking points, then dutifully parrot them in perfect unison.

We're not talking about "talking point memos" here Bowfinger - I was talking about Election ideas. You know, the new ideas that the Republicans have been offering - not the same old same old recycled ones the democrats have been using as of late.

CsG

Oh yes, the "Democrats have no new ideas" canard. That's number 17 on the official Republican propaganda list, IIRC. Nicely parroted. Have a cracker.

As opposed to your "fabricate their talking points" BS? Nah, always one to blame the right.... :roll:
But hey, don't try to blame me - it's your party that keeps claiming it can't get it's message out.
Psstt - ever think you might be losing BECAUSE you actually are getting your "message"(whatever it is) out?

CsG

 

[da loser]

Originally posted by: Czar

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
I see we have another who can't tell the difference between discussing the bad news and myopically focusing on it to the exclusion of all else and harping on that bad news incessantly. The members of the left who do focus only on the bad news give themselves away as to their true intent and ultimately show themselves to be uncaring as to what actually goes on in Iraq.

Ever heard the term "crocodile tears?" Many of the left seem to shed them constantly.

What ever.

The thing I'm struck about is the cointinued bloodshed that's happening in Iraq, It seems that not a couple of days go by without carbombs going off in Baghdad killing 10 to 20 people at a time. This is the capital of Iraq and if we gan't seem to stop the massacre there how can we expect to stop it elsewhere in that country.

I also noticed the lack of violence (well in comparison) happening in the areas of Iraq that are under British control. Do you believe that if they were faced with the same violence the American Troops were faced with they'd still be there?

One has to question why the lack of violence in the areas that arent sunni strongholds.
The British wouldnt turn tail and run anymore than we have.

I actually have to agree with you there.

But another thing to consider is the British handle things differently. They aren't just about raids and bombs and bullets. Remember, they "owned" Iraq before.

To be honest I dont keep up on the British side of things.

How do they do things differently?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jh...1/wtact11.xml&sSheet=/news/2004/04/11/

British rules of engagement only allow troops to open fire when attacked, using the minimum force necessary and only at identified targets.

The American approach was markedly different: "When US troops are attacked with mortars in Baghdad, they use mortar-locating radar to find the firing point and then attack the general area with artillery, even though the area they are attacking may be in the middle of a densely populated residential area.

"The British response in Iraq has been much softer. During and after the war the British set about trying to win the confidence of the local population. There have been problems, it hasn't been easy but on the whole it was succeeding."

actually that's BS. the media and believers in the soft approach have been perpetuating the myth. even the british looked down upon the us army. however they quickly learned after sending a battalion to baghdad, they were wrong. they have had more success because of the shiite south. the marines controlled the najaf area and were very successful, however when they were assigned the sunni areas, they had problems. you can not convince someone to lower their standard of living even if it was ill gotten, ie sunnis, no matter what "soft" approach you take.

 

[Bowfinger]

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: Bowfinger

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: Bowfinger
That's the problem with people who think for themselves. The right has a much easier job. They fabricate their talking points, then dutifully parrot them in perfect unison.

We're not talking about "talking point memos" here Bowfinger - I was talking about Election ideas. You know, the new ideas that the Republicans have been offering - not the same old same old recycled ones the democrats have been using as of late.

CsG

Oh yes, the "Democrats have no new ideas" canard. That's number 17 on the official Republican propaganda list, IIRC. Nicely parroted. Have a cracker.

As opposed to your "fabricate their talking points" BS? Nah, always one to blame the right.... :roll:

WTF!?!? You're attacking the Democrats with unsupported, subjective claims. I reject it as the empty rhetoric it is. You call that "blam[ing] the right"? That's just stupid.

But hey, don't try to blame me - it's your party that keeps claiming it can't get it's message out.

Actually, as you well know, I don't have a party. (Your comment is also a non sequitur, but that's hardly surprising.)

Psstt - ever think you might be losing BECAUSE you actually are getting your "message"(whatever it is) out?

CsG

I'm not losing anything. IMO. the reason the Democrats keep losing is because they're not as skilled at lying as the current crop of con-men who've hijacked the Republican party.

 

[homercles337]

Originally posted by: conjur
We're spending over $215 million per day in Iraq and the Voyager project is struggling for a measly $4.2 million to keep it alive as the spacecraft enter interstellar space.

 

[randym431]

Topic Title: Why do people on the left only discuss bad news

Obviously you have not had a relative or friend die or disfigured in the war of lies.

I'd love to see you put your money where your mouth is...Enlist!

Post your zipcode and I'll give you the nearest recruiting center.

Sound like a deal?

Hello...hello... Mr. self proclaimed patriot, hello...?

 

[BBond]

Why do people on the left only discuss bad news?

Because bad news is the only news there is since junior stole the White House.

 

[Duckzilla]

I don't have any reason to believe Saddam had anything to do with 9/11, but when I look at the terrorist of 9/11, I think of Saddam. Good enough for me and the average American. Post away.

 

[WhipperSnapper]

Originally posted by: Crimson

Have you ever been to a third world country and seen TRUE poverty? If you did, you would realize how far away from them we are. But yes, because a union worker loses his widget job making $80k/year for putting in 2 bolts, and has to take a job making 35k/year, that means we are third world.. :roll: Even our POOREST people make WAY more money than the true poverty in other parts of the world.

DOOM! GLOOM!! DOOM DOOM GLOOM GLOOM! Same old BS, different posters.

You think Americans can find $35,000/year jobs easily? What world are you living in? A cuckoo-cloud dream world where middle class jobs, even lower middle class jobs, grow on trees? Millions of hard working Americans would love to earn $35,000/year. Have you noticed that we have a huge impoverished underclass in this country?

Since everything seems so rosy to you, could you please tell us about all of the wonderful new high-value-added college-education-requiring middle class jobs that were created in the past couple years? Can you tell us about the millions of net new jobs we needed to keep up with the population growth of the workforce? Can you tell us about the growth of jobs in import-export sensitive areas of the economy? Can you tell us about how wages have significantly outpaced inflation?

 

[WhipperSnapper]

Originally posted by: piasabird
Becaust the Democratic party has no solutions, only problems.

I agree. The Democrats don't have any kind of vision at all. I'm not even sure what kinds of values that party stands for. I despise both of the parties and wish a pox on both their houses. I sure do hope that a good third party rises up.

 

[Czar]

Originally posted by: da loser

Originally posted by: Czar

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
I see we have another who can't tell the difference between discussing the bad news and myopically focusing on it to the exclusion of all else and harping on that bad news incessantly. The members of the left who do focus only on the bad news give themselves away as to their true intent and ultimately show themselves to be uncaring as to what actually goes on in Iraq.

Ever heard the term "crocodile tears?" Many of the left seem to shed them constantly.

What ever.

The thing I'm struck about is the cointinued bloodshed that's happening in Iraq, It seems that not a couple of days go by without carbombs going off in Baghdad killing 10 to 20 people at a time. This is the capital of Iraq and if we gan't seem to stop the massacre there how can we expect to stop it elsewhere in that country.

I also noticed the lack of violence (well in comparison) happening in the areas of Iraq that are under British control. Do you believe that if they were faced with the same violence the American Troops were faced with they'd still be there?

One has to question why the lack of violence in the areas that arent sunni strongholds.
The British wouldnt turn tail and run anymore than we have.

I actually have to agree with you there.

But another thing to consider is the British handle things differently. They aren't just about raids and bombs and bullets. Remember, they "owned" Iraq before.

To be honest I dont keep up on the British side of things.

How do they do things differently?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jh...1/wtact11.xml&sSheet=/news/2004/04/11/

British rules of engagement only allow troops to open fire when attacked, using the minimum force necessary and only at identified targets.

The American approach was markedly different: "When US troops are attacked with mortars in Baghdad, they use mortar-locating radar to find the firing point and then attack the general area with artillery, even though the area they are attacking may be in the middle of a densely populated residential area.

"The British response in Iraq has been much softer. During and after the war the British set about trying to win the confidence of the local population. There have been problems, it hasn't been easy but on the whole it was succeeding."

actually that's BS. the media and believers in the soft approach have been perpetuating the myth. even the british looked down upon the us army. however they quickly learned after sending a battalion to baghdad, they were wrong. they have had more success because of the shiite south. the marines controlled the najaf area and were very successful, however when they were assigned the sunni areas, they had problems. you can not convince someone to lower their standard of living even if it was ill gotten, ie sunnis, no matter what "soft" approach you take.

its impossible to deny that either has a big part in the current situation, the reason the brittish controled area is doing alot better are two, first its generaly not as hostile and second the brittish approach to the public is alot better than of the US

 

[arsbanned]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
I see we have another who can't tell the difference between discussing the bad news and myopically focusing on it to the exclusion of all else and harping on that bad news incessantly. The members of the left who do focus only on the bad news give themselves away as to their true intent and ultimately show themselves to be uncaring as to what actually goes on in Iraq.

Ever heard the term "crocodile tears?" Many of the left seem to shed them constantly.

What ever.

The thing I'm struck about is the cointinued bloodshed that's happening in Iraq, It seems that not a couple of days go by without carbombs going off in Baghdad killing 10 to 20 people at a time. This is the capital of Iraq and if we gan't seem to stop the massacre there how can we expect to stop it elsewhere in that country.

I also noticed the lack of violence (well in comparison) happening in the areas of Iraq that are under British control. Do you believe that if they were faced with the same violence the American Troops were faced with they'd still be there?

Come on man! Get with the program! They have FREEDOM and DEEEEMOCRACY now! :disgust:

 

[jpeyton]

18 US troops killed since Sunday.

Now some really good news...I just saved a bunch of money on my car insurance by switching to Geico.

 

[maluckey]

No End In Sight

Here's some good news! Go figure a way to spin this one into poor economy etc. Traditionally, home markets do not do well in a recession, or when there is little faith in the market.

SS woes...not ours

This makes me feel better about our system. I guess that misery loves company.


More good news, if you want American troops to come home that is.

Africans ask why there is no good news about thir region....sound familiar?

 

[BBond]

I have a suggestion for everyone who wants more good news. Instead of sitting in front of the TV set, pick up a newspaper. Newspapers are unique in that you can choose the stories you read. How novel. You can ignore the stories you don't want to read.

Imagine, you can read only good news and ingore all the bad news.

Then you can live in ignorant bliss in your Pee Wee Herman-like world.

Another good news story from Iraq.

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: WhipperSnapper

Originally posted by: Crimson

Have you ever been to a third world country and seen TRUE poverty? If you did, you would realize how far away from them we are. But yes, because a union worker loses his widget job making $80k/year for putting in 2 bolts, and has to take a job making 35k/year, that means we are third world.. :roll: Even our POOREST people make WAY more money than the true poverty in other parts of the world.

DOOM! GLOOM!! DOOM DOOM GLOOM GLOOM! Same old BS, different posters.

You think Americans can find $35,000/year jobs easily? What world are you living in? A cuckoo-cloud dream world where middle class jobs, even lower middle class jobs, grow on trees? Millions of hard working Americans would love to earn $35,000/year. Have you noticed that we have a huge impoverished underclass in this country?

Since everything seems so rosy to you, could you please tell us about all of the wonderful new high-value-added college-education-requiring middle class jobs that were created in the past couple years? Can you tell us about the millions of net new jobs we needed to keep up with the population growth of the workforce? Can you tell us about the growth of jobs in import-export sensitive areas of the economy? Can you tell us about how wages have significantly outpaced inflation?

Forget it WS, Crimmy and the rest of the Rich Republicans live in Utopia in their own little worlds' unaffected by spiraling down wages and spiraling up costs of living because those that do work, make a ton of money and most of them have so much money they don't ever have to work.

This is the Republican ideal for America, a special class of wealthy, no middle class and then the rest of the impoverished Country to serve them. Basically an old fashioned Kingdom.

 

[BBond]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: WhipperSnapper

Originally posted by: Crimson

Have you ever been to a third world country and seen TRUE poverty? If you did, you would realize how far away from them we are. But yes, because a union worker loses his widget job making $80k/year for putting in 2 bolts, and has to take a job making 35k/year, that means we are third world.. :roll: Even our POOREST people make WAY more money than the true poverty in other parts of the world.

DOOM! GLOOM!! DOOM DOOM GLOOM GLOOM! Same old BS, different posters.

You think Americans can find $35,000/year jobs easily? What world are you living in? A cuckoo-cloud dream world where middle class jobs, even lower middle class jobs, grow on trees? Millions of hard working Americans would love to earn $35,000/year. Have you noticed that we have a huge impoverished underclass in this country?

Since everything seems so rosy to you, could you please tell us about all of the wonderful new high-value-added college-education-requiring middle class jobs that were created in the past couple years? Can you tell us about the millions of net new jobs we needed to keep up with the population growth of the workforce? Can you tell us about the growth of jobs in import-export sensitive areas of the economy? Can you tell us about how wages have significantly outpaced inflation?

Forget it WS, Crimmy and the rest of the Rich Republicans live in Utopia in their own little worlds' unaffected by spiraling down wages and spiraling up costs of living because those that do work, make a ton of money and most of them have so much money they don't ever have to work.

This is the Republican ideal for America, a special class of wealthy, no middle class and then the rest of the impoverished Country to serve them. Basically an old fashioned Kingdom.

A fascist oligarchy. Good news Republican style.

 

[maluckey]

randym431,

You also might think about enlisting, so that you would have a deeper insight about the military and war. You know so much about it all, you should be iin charge and making the decisions that count.

Don't be shy, they take all kinds into the ranks.

 

[piasabird]

Hmm, I make less than $35,000.00, I guess I am an impoverished scum sucking under paid employee. Or I could just be happy making $31,000.00 and be glad I have a job.

 

[BBond]

Originally posted by: piasabird
Hmm, I make less than $35,000.00, I guess I am an impoverished scum sucking under paid employee. Or I could just be happy making $31,000.00 and be glad I have a job.

And there you have the Republican labor strategy defined.

Keep workers in fear for their jobs.

 

[homercles337]

Originally posted by: Crimson

Originally posted by: WhipperSnapper

An even better question might be: "Why do the Republicans want to bury economic issues?"

Could it be that under the Bush Administration the middle class job market went to crap and that the nation is moving in the direction of becoming a third world country?

Have you ever been to a third world country and seen TRUE poverty? If you did, you would realize how far away from them we are. But yes, because a union worker loses his widget job making $80k/year for putting in 2 bolts, and has to take a job making 35k/year, that means we are third world.. :roll: Even our POOREST people make WAY more money than the true poverty in other parts of the world.

DOOM! GLOOM!! DOOM DOOM GLOOM GLOOM! Same old BS, different posters.

Shut your pie hole. I have a PhD and i make barely more than your supposed minimum wage of 35k/year. Wake up d00d, ever hear of the word relative? Yes, i could live like a king at 35k/year in Mexico, but do i LIVE in mexico? You are a seriously sad, confused man.

 

[TastesLikeChicken]

I would recommend that most of you refrain from sailing or any kind of watercraft activity after seeing so many completely miss the boat in regards to Crimson's remark.