Why do people on the left only discuss bad news

[conjur]

I wonder if Novak is now considered the "left"?

Video - CNN: Novak says "Get the Hell Out" of Iraq Now
http://www.edwardsdavid.com/media/cnn/c...ng_novak_says_leave_iraq_050521-01.wmv

 

[ZeGermans]

Bad news in Iraq reflects poorly on the current administration, which the left opposes. It's the right-wing's job to dig up good news, since they're all peaches and roses about Bush and Iraq anyways.

 

[WhipperSnapper]

An even better question might be: "Why do the Republicans want to bury economic issues?"

Could it be that under the Bush Administration the middle class job market went to crap and that the nation is moving in the direction of becoming a third world country?

 

[Crimson]

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
I see we have another who can't tell the difference between discussing the bad news and myopically focusing on it to the exclusion of all else and harping on that bad news incessantly. The members of the left who do focus only on the bad news give themselves away as to their true intent and ultimately show themselves to be uncaring as to what actually goes on in Iraq.

Ever heard the term "crocodile tears?" Many of the left seem to shed them constantly.

What ever.

The thing I'm struck about is the cointinued bloodshed that's happening in Iraq, It seems that not a couple of days go by without carbombs going off in Baghdad killing 10 to 20 people at a time. This is the capital of Iraq and if we gan't seem to stop the massacre there how can we expect to stop it elsewhere in that country.

I also noticed the lack of violence (well in comparison) happening in the areas of Iraq that are under British control. Do you believe that if they were faced with the same violence the American Troops were faced with they'd still be there?

One has to question why the lack of violence in the areas that arent sunni strongholds.
The British wouldnt turn tail and run anymore than we have.

I actually have to agree with you there.

But another thing to consider is the British handle things differently. They aren't just about raids and bombs and bullets. Remember, they "owned" Iraq before.

Woot! More American Troop bashing from Conjur.

 

[BBond]

Originally posted by: Crimson

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
I see we have another who can't tell the difference between discussing the bad news and myopically focusing on it to the exclusion of all else and harping on that bad news incessantly. The members of the left who do focus only on the bad news give themselves away as to their true intent and ultimately show themselves to be uncaring as to what actually goes on in Iraq.

Ever heard the term "crocodile tears?" Many of the left seem to shed them constantly.

What ever.

The thing I'm struck about is the cointinued bloodshed that's happening in Iraq, It seems that not a couple of days go by without carbombs going off in Baghdad killing 10 to 20 people at a time. This is the capital of Iraq and if we gan't seem to stop the massacre there how can we expect to stop it elsewhere in that country.

I also noticed the lack of violence (well in comparison) happening in the areas of Iraq that are under British control. Do you believe that if they were faced with the same violence the American Troops were faced with they'd still be there?

One has to question why the lack of violence in the areas that arent sunni strongholds.
The British wouldnt turn tail and run anymore than we have.

I actually have to agree with you there.

But another thing to consider is the British handle things differently. They aren't just about raids and bombs and bullets. Remember, they "owned" Iraq before.

Woot! More American Troop bashing from Conjur.

Exactly how does criticizing a failed policy equate to bashing troops?

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: Crimson

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
I see we have another who can't tell the difference between discussing the bad news and myopically focusing on it to the exclusion of all else and harping on that bad news incessantly. The members of the left who do focus only on the bad news give themselves away as to their true intent and ultimately show themselves to be uncaring as to what actually goes on in Iraq.

Ever heard the term "crocodile tears?" Many of the left seem to shed them constantly.

What ever.

The thing I'm struck about is the cointinued bloodshed that's happening in Iraq, It seems that not a couple of days go by without carbombs going off in Baghdad killing 10 to 20 people at a time. This is the capital of Iraq and if we gan't seem to stop the massacre there how can we expect to stop it elsewhere in that country.

I also noticed the lack of violence (well in comparison) happening in the areas of Iraq that are under British control. Do you believe that if they were faced with the same violence the American Troops were faced with they'd still be there?

One has to question why the lack of violence in the areas that arent sunni strongholds.
The British wouldnt turn tail and run anymore than we have.

I actually have to agree with you there.

But another thing to consider is the British handle things differently. They aren't just about raids and bombs and bullets. Remember, they "owned" Iraq before.

Woot! More American Troop bashing from Conjur.

Care to stay on topic? Or are you just going to continue with your trolling and insults?


I'll predict the latter since you haven't had an original thought in your head in many a moon.

 

[Crimson]

Originally posted by: WhipperSnapper

An even better question might be: "Why do the Republicans want to bury economic issues?"

Could it be that under the Bush Administration the middle class job market went to crap and that the nation is moving in the direction of becoming a third world country?

Have you ever been to a third world country and seen TRUE poverty? If you did, you would realize how far away from them we are. But yes, because a union worker loses his widget job making $80k/year for putting in 2 bolts, and has to take a job making 35k/year, that means we are third world.. :roll: Even our POOREST people make WAY more money than the true poverty in other parts of the world.

DOOM! GLOOM!! DOOM DOOM GLOOM GLOOM! Same old BS, different posters.

 

[BBond]

Originally posted by: Crimson

Originally posted by: WhipperSnapper

An even better question might be: "Why do the Republicans want to bury economic issues?"

Could it be that under the Bush Administration the middle class job market went to crap and that the nation is moving in the direction of becoming a third world country?

Have you ever been to a third world country and seen TRUE poverty? If you did, you would realize how far away from them we are. But yes, because a union worker loses his widget job making $80k/year for putting in 2 bolts, and has to take a job making 35k/year, that means we are third world.. :roll: Even our POOREST people make WAY more money than the true poverty in other parts of the world.

DOOM! GLOOM!! DOOM DOOM GLOOM GLOOM! Same old BS, different posters.

You have a very strange idea of what people do for a living.

Also, what is your goal? To make Americans the poorest workers in the world as a lesson in how good they have it?

Ridiculous.

As usual.

 

[Tommunist]

Originally posted by: Crimson

Originally posted by: WhipperSnapper

An even better question might be: "Why do the Republicans want to bury economic issues?"

Could it be that under the Bush Administration the middle class job market went to crap and that the nation is moving in the direction of becoming a third world country?

Have you ever been to a third world country and seen TRUE poverty? If you did, you would realize how far away from them we are. But yes, because a union worker loses his widget job making $80k/year for putting in 2 bolts, and has to take a job making 35k/year, that means we are third world.. :roll: Even our POOREST people make WAY more money than the true poverty in other parts of the world.

DOOM! GLOOM!! DOOM DOOM GLOOM GLOOM! Same old BS, different posters.

he never said anything about poverty but rather said that the middle class is suffering economically.

 

[Czar]

http://pics.bbzzdd.com/users/czar/heller.gif

ahhh fitting

 

[HomerJS]

Originally posted by: TuxDave

Originally posted by: HomerJS
Why don?t you people on the left ever talk about good news on the war in Iraq?? Recently a new tennis court was constructed in the green zone. It is un-American to discuss anything negative about the war. As Britney Spears said ?We must trust the President in everything that he does?

Run that by me again?

Just a little satire pointing how the administration mind fvcks people into believing it's traitorus to disagree with them. Scary thing is a lot of people believe it.

 

[TastesLikeChicken]

Originally posted by: HomerJS

Originally posted by: TuxDave

Originally posted by: HomerJS
Why don?t you people on the left ever talk about good news on the war in Iraq?? Recently a new tennis court was constructed in the green zone. It is un-American to discuss anything negative about the war. As Britney Spears said ?We must trust the President in everything that he does?

Run that by me again?

Just a little satire pointing how the administration mind fvcks people into believing it's traitorus to disagree with them. Scary thing is a lot of people believe it.

I'm so fvckin tired of hearing this BS from the left. How many of you complaining of this very thing have had the jackbooted thugs from the admin knocking on your doors, looking to drag you to the dungeon, because you disagree with them? Let me count hands here. I see....none. Well waddya know. Apparently this old salt is simply more fearmongering BS from the left.

For another example of the lefty penchant for bad news:

http://chrenkoff.blogspot.com/2005/05/remembering-fallen-msm-style.html

Remembering the fallen - the MSM-style
Once again, as far as the mainstream media is concerned, the only good American soldier is a dead American soldier.

From Drudge:

One year since honoring the American service men and women killed in Iraq and Afghanistan, Ted Koppel and ABC News "Nightline" will again pay tribute to the fallen by devoting an extended broadcast to reading the names and showing the photographs of more than 900 service members who have been killed in those countries over the last year. Entitled "The Fallen," the special "Nightline" broadcast will air Memorial Day, Monday, May 30, 2005 at 11:35 p.m. ET on the ABC Television Network. ABC News Radio will air excerpts of the program.
Make no mistake, tributes and remembrance of the ultimate sacrifice paid by the troops to bring freedom and democracy to the peoples of Iraq and Afghanistan are all very worthy things, but - call me cynical - coming from the mouths of the mainstream media they ring neither true nor sincere. Since the MSM as a general rule doesn't believe in our mission in Iraq (less so in case of Afghanistan), its remembrance then is at best that of a futile sacrifice, at worst of a criminal one.

I've got a modest proposal to Ted Koppel and "Nightline": why don't you read one day the names and show the pictures of the 170,000 or so American servicemen and women stationed in Iraq and Afghanistan who every day are working their hardest to ensure that democracy takes root, terrorists are defeated, and these two countries have a chance to build a better future for their people. That might convince a cynic such as myself that you really care for the troops generally, and not just only when they can be cynically used to embarrass the Bush Administration.

Exactly. The partisan twats try and convince you they actually care about people dying, well, except those who were dying under Saddam. It was apparently OK for Saddam to kill tens of thousands.

It's obvious what they are doing. They are using the spectre of death as a tool, uncaringly, to attempt to malign the amin. I think that's one of the saddest and most idiotic forms of protest or opposition that can possibly be wielded. It's beyond moronic and it does nothing to honor those dead. Many of those soldiers went to Iraq and died for a cause they believed in and I doubt they'd apprecaite Koppel using them as a partisan and political pawn.

 

[conjur]

Why doesn't Rush, Hannity, O'Reilly, Malkin, Coulter, etc. do that, TLC? Why is it up to Nightline to read 170,000 names (which would take an eternity and is probably all but impossible to get the full list of names)?

 

[TastesLikeChicken]

Originally posted by: conjur
Why doesn't Rush, Hannity, O'Reilly, Malkin, Coulter, etc. do that, TLC? Why is it up to Nightline to read 170,000 names (which would take an eternity and is probably all but impossible to get the full list of names)?

Because if they did they'd be labelled as admin suckups by people like you.

 

[HomerJS]

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken

Originally posted by: HomerJS

Originally posted by: TuxDave

Originally posted by: HomerJS
Why don?t you people on the left ever talk about good news on the war in Iraq?? Recently a new tennis court was constructed in the green zone. It is un-American to discuss anything negative about the war. As Britney Spears said ?We must trust the President in everything that he does?

Run that by me again?

Just a little satire pointing how the administration mind fvcks people into believing it's traitorus to disagree with them. Scary thing is a lot of people believe it.

I'm so fvckin tired of hearing this BS from the left. How many of you complaining of this very thing have had the jackbooted thugs from the admin knocking on your doors, looking to drag you to the dungeon, because you disagree with them? Let me count hands here. I see....none. Well waddya know. Apparently this old salt is simply more fearmongering BS from the left.

For another example of the lefty penchant for bad news:

http://chrenkoff.blogspot.com/2005/05/remembering-fallen-msm-style.html

Remembering the fallen - the MSM-style
Once again, as far as the mainstream media is concerned, the only good American soldier is a dead American soldier.

From Drudge:

One year since honoring the American service men and women killed in Iraq and Afghanistan, Ted Koppel and ABC News "Nightline" will again pay tribute to the fallen by devoting an extended broadcast to reading the names and showing the photographs of more than 900 service members who have been killed in those countries over the last year. Entitled "The Fallen," the special "Nightline" broadcast will air Memorial Day, Monday, May 30, 2005 at 11:35 p.m. ET on the ABC Television Network. ABC News Radio will air excerpts of the program.
Make no mistake, tributes and remembrance of the ultimate sacrifice paid by the troops to bring freedom and democracy to the peoples of Iraq and Afghanistan are all very worthy things, but - call me cynical - coming from the mouths of the mainstream media they ring neither true nor sincere. Since the MSM as a general rule doesn't believe in our mission in Iraq (less so in case of Afghanistan), its remembrance then is at best that of a futile sacrifice, at worst of a criminal one.

I've got a modest proposal to Ted Koppel and "Nightline": why don't you read one day the names and show the pictures of the 170,000 or so American servicemen and women stationed in Iraq and Afghanistan who every day are working their hardest to ensure that democracy takes root, terrorists are defeated, and these two countries have a chance to build a better future for their people. That might convince a cynic such as myself that you really care for the troops generally, and not just only when they can be cynically used to embarrass the Bush Administration.

Exactly. The partisan twats try and convince you they actually care about people dying, well, except those who were dying under Saddam. It was apparently OK for Saddam to kill tens of thousands.

It's obvious what they are doing. They are using the spectre of death as a tool, uncaringly, to attempt to malign the amin. I think that's one of the saddest and most idiotic forms of protest or opposition that can possibly be wielded. It's beyond moronic and it does nothing to honor those dead. Many of those soldiers went to Iraq and died for a cause they believed in and I doubt they'd apprecaite Koppel using them as a partisan and political pawn.

If we aren't in the middle of a giant mind fvck, why do almost 50% of people think Saddam had something to do with 9/11? It's called propaganda.

 

[NeoV]

Give me break TLC, your rhetoric is way past tired now. Each side focuses on the bad news 'from the other side', it just so happens that this administration provides a lot more material to be critical of than most.

As for your comment on Ted Koppel, I'd rather he read the names of the dead than have a president who doesn't attend any of their funerals, an administration that FORBIDS photographs of their caskets, and an assistant Sec of Defense (or whatever Wolfie's official title is) that doesn't even know how many American soldiers have died. Their deaths should be known to all, regardless of what side of the political arena you fall on.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

From what I have heard on NPR (know for it's wacko liberal slant), they don't even count troops who die on the way to the hospital in Germany. So the numbers of deaths we see are only those who have actually perished on Iraqi soil. The numbers are very skewed. I doubt we even have a vague idea of exactly how many US soldiers have died because of wounds they suffered fighting this war.

 

[BBond]

I've read that they don't count those troops who joined up to earn U.S. citizenship because, technically, when they die over there in Iraq, they aren't U.S. citizens.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

Are you fvcking serious?????!?!

 

[BBond]

Originally posted by: Sheik Yerbouti
Are you fvcking serious?????!?!

I'll try to locate the story. It was posted here at P&N IIRC.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

Ok, thanks. You can pm with it, this threads been derailed too much already (sorry)

 

[Crimson]

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: Crimson

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
I see we have another who can't tell the difference between discussing the bad news and myopically focusing on it to the exclusion of all else and harping on that bad news incessantly. The members of the left who do focus only on the bad news give themselves away as to their true intent and ultimately show themselves to be uncaring as to what actually goes on in Iraq.

Ever heard the term "crocodile tears?" Many of the left seem to shed them constantly.

What ever.

The thing I'm struck about is the cointinued bloodshed that's happening in Iraq, It seems that not a couple of days go by without carbombs going off in Baghdad killing 10 to 20 people at a time. This is the capital of Iraq and if we gan't seem to stop the massacre there how can we expect to stop it elsewhere in that country.

I also noticed the lack of violence (well in comparison) happening in the areas of Iraq that are under British control. Do you believe that if they were faced with the same violence the American Troops were faced with they'd still be there?

One has to question why the lack of violence in the areas that arent sunni strongholds.
The British wouldnt turn tail and run anymore than we have.

I actually have to agree with you there.

But another thing to consider is the British handle things differently. They aren't just about raids and bombs and bullets. Remember, they "owned" Iraq before.

Woot! More American Troop bashing from Conjur.

Care to stay on topic? Or are you just going to continue with your trolling and insults?


I'll predict the latter since you haven't had an original thought in your head in many a moon.

I'll assume because you didn't object to what I said specifically, that you admit you hate our troops then? You are the one saying our military is simply about bullets and bombs, and the British are more 'sensitive' or whatever term you want to use. That sure seems like a criticism of our troops to me, as I don't think the President has influence over each individual and how they treat the Iraqi's.

And you accuse me of trolling and insulting when you end your post with a personal attack? Come on Conjur.. Ok, yes, I know.. anyone who believes a conservative thought couldn't POSSIBLY have come up with that on their own. Nevermind most of you liberals just parrot eachother in this forum as well, does that make you lacking original thought as well?

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: Sheik Yerbouti
Ok, thanks. You can pm with it, this threads been derailed too much already (sorry)

Hell...post it here.

 

[TastesLikeChicken]

Originally posted by: HomerJS
If we aren't in the middle of a giant mind fvck, why do almost 50% of people think Saddam had something to do with 9/11? It's called propaganda.

Why are there people who, despite the great preponderance of evidence to the contrary, still insist the earth is flat, that we didn't travel to the moon, or that a jet really didn't crash into the Pentagon on 9/11?

It's because people want to fool themselves or belive the stupid sh!t they want to believe. It has nothing to do whatsoever with propaganda.

 

[Ferocious]

'the left' ???

Remember that in general...conservatives were/are against this war.

Real conservatives that is.