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PricklyPete

PricklyPete

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DeathBUA said:
It got me thinking like a mad scientist is what it did. Seriously. Take current Fusion Hybrid, install say a 4-5KWh Li-ion battery pack to replace the 1.3KWh Ni-Mh battery. Proverbially uncork the electric motor. In the stock from the factory de-tuned state it's producing 40hp and roughly 62pounds of torque. At full blast it's actually 106HP and 166pounds of torque. So re-tune ECU to allow all that electric power available at any time, then change from it's current Atkinson cycle back to an Otto cycle. Which takes you from 155hp and 135ft/lbs to 175HP and 171ft/lbs of a regular Fusion 4-banger. Would probably need to beef up the CVT a bit as well. But suddenly instead of a 191combined HP hybrid you'd have a roughly 281HP hybrid car that would have enough torque to makes a diesel stop and stare. Without any other mods I'd be willing to guess that you could run a 0-60 in about 6.5 seconds, maybe a little less considering in it's current state I pulled 0-60 in 8.4 seconds.
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That would be interesting. It will be really cool to see what some of the performance makes start doing with hybrid technology like Porsche is doing with the 918...could make for some impressive numbers.
 
TraumaRN

TraumaRN

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CurseTheSky said:
It would be an interesting project, but for the same money spent on mods, I'd bet you could easily buy a C5 'Vette and smoke the modded Fusion Hybrid.
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This is true, I'm just kinda postulating...it definitely would be a sleeper car though. And to me that would be the appeal.
 
BassBomb

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DeathBUA said:
It got me thinking like a mad scientist is what it did. Seriously. Take current Fusion Hybrid, install say a 4-5KWh Li-ion battery pack to replace the 1.3KWh Ni-Mh battery. Proverbially uncork the electric motor. In the stock from the factory de-tuned state it's producing 40hp and roughly 62pounds of torque. At full blast it's actually 106HP and 166pounds of torque. So re-tune ECU to allow all that electric power available at any time, then change from it's current Atkinson cycle back to an Otto cycle. Which takes you from 155hp and 135ft/lbs to 175HP and 171ft/lbs of a regular Fusion 4-banger. Would probably need to beef up the CVT a bit as well. But suddenly instead of a 191combined HP hybrid you'd have a roughly 281HP hybrid car that would have enough torque to makes a diesel stop and stare. Without any other mods I'd be willing to guess that you could run a 0-60 in about 6.5 seconds, maybe a little less considering in it's current state I pulled 0-60 in 8.4 seconds.
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Accord hybrids were 220hp ish :awe:
 
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ayabe

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My favorite is when their passenger starts talking shit and whips out the camera phone only to quickly try to hide it as you blast by them.

Amazingly some people actually post videos of themselves picking these fights and getting owned but I haven't found myself online yet, oh well maybe someday.

One of my favorites involves some punk Evo driver and his (my balls haven't descended yet) passenger calling some E46 M3 driver a lovely human, then proceeds to get smoked, it's pretty awesome.

Here it is:
Youtube NSFW
 
TehMac

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RockinZ28 said:
We just messed around a little, no real race, but those guys might be thinking along the same lines like "Man can you believe these guy in their pos 60k cars?"
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Anyone who is actually serious about motorsports/driving will not look down upon any one else's car unless that person is just using it to show off/be a jerkoff.
 
Demon-Xanth

Demon-Xanth

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One thing to note:
If a Civic vs Countach race and...

the Civic wins:
The Civic gets mad props for taking down a Countach.
The Countach is a fool for losing to the Civic.

the Countach wins:
The Civic should've been beaten, but put up a good showing.
The Countach obviously should have won, big deal.

The Civic has nothing to lose, the Countach has nothing to gain.
 
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Occ

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^ that's what I was thinking.

And try riding around on a gsxr if you want to get challenged a bunch. Once a buddy and I were screwing around at a stop light and we got pulled over for allegedly racing. My buddy and I (both on 600 supersports) let it rip at the light just for kicks, but his shifter got stuck in neutral for a second so I passed him, then he got it in gear and flew past me (because he was leading as I didn't know the area). Then the sirens came on. The cop was nice and informed us of the definition for street racing and such action results in jail time. Checked our endorsements. Apparently there was an exotic car behind us that he said was trying to keep up with us and totally failing, and we explained (truthfully) we were both completely unaware of it. He said, "Yeah, I kind of figured that." And the exotic didn't stop for the cop, so that worked in our favor as well, since we pulled over right away. He let us off without issuing a citation. We were both pretty thankful to get away with a warning, especially because even though he went at us for racing and we explained ourselves, he could have easily written us up for speeding.

So yeah, I don't really do that kind of thing anymore.
 
Saga

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RockinZ28 said:
Most of the time I just completely ignore them, but if I feel like playing around, I like to give them hope and then destroy it.

I give my car just enough gas to keep about a half-car in front of them the whole time, unless they start going stupid fast to try to win. Then if we catch another light together, I blow their doors off. It's fun to let them think they're hanging with you, then make them think you hit the "NOS".

After that they almost always stay a few cars back from you no matter how slow you go lol.
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Amusingly, I do the same thing in my truck. Recently remember a C6 driver with a bimbo in the passenger seat staring slack jawed from my rear-view. Three words: electronic boost controller. Push-button from 0psi to 25psi. Classic reactions on a 6.2 truck with a Eaton + twin turbo.
 
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Saga said:
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Originally Posted by RockinZ28
Most of the time I just completely ignore them, but if I feel like playing around, I like to give them hope and then destroy it.

I give my car just enough gas to keep about a half-car in front of them the whole time, unless they start going stupid fast to try to win. Then if we catch another light together, I blow their doors off. It's fun to let them think they're hanging with you, then make them think you hit the "NOS".

After that they almost always stay a few cars back from you no matter how slow you go lol.

Amusingly, I do the same thing in my truck. Recently remember a C6 driver with a bimbo in the passenger seat staring slack jawed from my rear-view. Three words: electronic boost controller. Push-button from 0psi to 25psi. Classic reactions on a 6.2 truck with a Eaton + twin turbo.
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Yea I remember this time when I was racing a Z28 and he thought he was all fast and then I pushed the gas and went to 100 mph in 2st gear. I double clutch up-shifted. I have one of those strap on air intakes that makes the air vortex into your engine for more power. The driver of the z28 couldn't believe I beat him but when I showed him my TURBO sticker and how I had put in carbon fiber wiper blades he understood why I was so fast. That and I have my AC venting out the window to the back of my car so when I turn on the AC full blast it pushes the car forward for extra speed.
 
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MrWizzard said:
Yea I remember this time when I was racing a Z28 and he thought he was all fast and then I pushed the gas and went to 100 mph in 2st gear. I double clutch up-shifted. I have one of those strap on air intakes that makes the air vortex into your engine for more power. The driver of the z28 couldn't believe I beat him but when I showed him my TURBO sticker and how I had put in carbon fiber wiper blades he understood why I was so fast. That and I have my AC venting out the window to the back of my car so when I turn on the AC full blast it pushes the car forward for extra speed.
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I'm pretty sure it was the heat at full blast for the right boost, I think you're doing it wrong.. unless you're running full synthetic with your freon.
 
zerocool84

zerocool84

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joesmoke said:
back in my cobra days, i liked to rev like im gonna race then grandma off the line and immedietly shift into 2nd. it usually isnt worth the gas/wear just to let some jerkoff in too-loud celica see how his car stacks up.
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That's just as bad as all the ricers. Guys with V8's always think they're better than ricers but 99% of them are just as bad if not worse.
 
exdeath

exdeath

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zerocool84 said:
That's just as bad as all the ricers. Guys with V8's always think they're better than ricers but 99% of them are just as bad if not worse.
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Trucks are horrible at this. Titans and Tundras especially, they think because it has a V8 that they own the streets.
 
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CurseTheSky

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exdeath said:
Trucks are horrible at this. Titans and Tundras especially, they think because it has a V8 that they own the streets.
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This. My fiancee was in the car with me the other day, and we laughed at someone with a Dodge Ram 1500 that floored it from a dead stop at every light. He had a HUGE (seriously, probably 5-6" or bigger) chrome exhaust tip and a limo tint on everything but the front windshield. After getting stuck with him at 3-4 lights in moderate traffic, we finally ended up side by side. I floored it just for kicks (yay torque steer) and somehow managed to chirp second. He came rumbling past me several seconds after I backed off, and made a sudden last minute turn into Advance Auto just before the next light. I was tempted to go back and park along side of him, but figured I shouldn't push my luck.

On the other hand, I got schooled by a Hyundai Azera "Limited" a few days ago. We were at a light where two lanes merge into one about 1/8th mile after the intersection. I was in a hurry, so I put my foot into it a bit to stay ahead of the rest of the traffic. Apparently he took that as an incentive to race, and by the time I could react and the slushbox could downshift, all I could do was keep up with the side of his bumper. I had to back off when my lane ended. Time to hand in my man card. :(
 
blckgrffn

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I noticed this was way worse when my yellow stang was really clean - solution was to leave it dirty. Totally ignored then, which was fine 99% of the time ;)
 
exdeath

exdeath

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MrWizzard said:
After reading that, I want to know what he does have, because my idea of way faster is something pretty dang fast.
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It doesn't take much to smoke a Celica, so yeah way faster. If you thought Celicas are fast, this would be a rocket ship.
 
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