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I don't like any of the aforementioned people because I'm jealous of their skill. Happy?
Originally posted by: James3shin
Originally posted by: sandorski
Originally posted by: Amused
Humility is far more attractive than being a cocky prick.
You know when you're the best? When everyone BUT you says it. If you have to say it, all that means is you have something to prove.
Yup. IOW, people don't hate people who "Back their Shit up", they just hate "Shit". "Shit" smells and most people do not enjoy it.
Nah I don't think what Amused was saying. Maybe amused can clear it up for us? I'm going to have to also disagree with you Sandorski. People definitely hate on people that back their shit up. I just don't get why, if you don't want to hear it, become better then that person at the competition/matter in question.
Originally posted by: SpanishFry
you shouldn't lump Tiger in with those guys. He's not a cocky douche
Originally posted by: Baloo
The more they boast, the less they truly are. When dealing with subjective opinion or talent, as apposed to assessment of skill, definately a short lived career for cocky dumbasses.
Originally posted by: QueBert
Originally posted by: Baloo
The more they boast, the less they truly are. When dealing with subjective opinion or talent, as apposed to assessment of skill, definately a short lived career for cocky dumbasses.
not true at all, one of the most cocky athletes ever was Ali, and Ali talked more shit than anyone. If you're really that good you can talk all the shit you want.
Originally posted by: QueBert
Originally posted by: Baloo
The more they boast, the less they truly are. When dealing with subjective opinion or talent, as apposed to assessment of skill, definately a short lived career for cocky dumbasses.
not true at all, one of the most cocky athletes ever was Ali, and Ali talked more shit than anyone. If you're really that good you can talk all the shit you want.
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: QueBert
Originally posted by: Baloo
The more they boast, the less they truly are. When dealing with subjective opinion or talent, as apposed to assessment of skill, definately a short lived career for cocky dumbasses.
not true at all, one of the most cocky athletes ever was Ali, and Ali talked more shit than anyone. If you're really that good you can talk all the shit you want.
Just because you CAN do a thing does not mean you should.
Originally posted by: James3shin
See Theo, you're mixing in "character" about a person. I can't judge character of a person through a TV screen, the only thing I can judge is ability to relative to others in a sporting competition or album sales in Kanye's case. I think if someone is the best at something, they can run their mouth as much as they want until someone takes it from them. MJ was a BIG shit talker and still is apparently but we still look at him as the BEST. Through my experiences, people are more remembered for what they have done more so then what they say, especially athletes.
Originally posted by: QueBert
Shit talkers stir the pot, weather you love or hate them, they're the ones people talk about. look at Ray Lewis, and there's Tito Ortiz who's one of the biggest I can think of. He hasn't even had that great of a fight for a long time now, but he's still the top draw for the UFC. It's not because he use to be a great fighter, it's because he talks shit. If he was a great fighter who was quiet about it, and fell off to where his fights weren't all that great, nobody would remember him or want to see him like the do now. "nice guys" bore me, I don't exactly like the dudes who carry on and on about how they're the GOAT, but I do like some color and some smack talk. If you're a fan of that person it gives you a good performance to look forward to. And if you hate them you can hope they get their asses handed to and it shuts them up.
Originally posted by: Kaolccips
Originally posted by: QueBert
Shit talkers stir the pot, weather you love or hate them, they're the ones people talk about. look at Ray Lewis, and there's Tito Ortiz who's one of the biggest I can think of. He hasn't even had that great of a fight for a long time now, but he's still the top draw for the UFC. It's not because he use to be a great fighter, it's because he talks shit. If he was a great fighter who was quiet about it, and fell off to where his fights weren't all that great, nobody would remember him or want to see him like the do now. "nice guys" bore me, I don't exactly like the dudes who carry on and on about how they're the GOAT, but I do like some color and some smack talk. If you're a fan of that person it gives you a good performance to look forward to. And if you hate them you can hope they get their asses handed to and it shuts them up.
Chuck Liddell is pretty soft spoken. And from what I see, he's still pretty high up there.
Originally posted by: James3shin
Originally posted by: SpanishFry
you shouldn't lump Tiger in with those guys. He's not a cocky douche
I had to think twice about Tiger, but a lot of the golfers I know don't like Tiger because they think he's cocky. I don't play golf and only see the highlights and personally didn't think he boasted much, but if he did, he has the right to do so. I just lumped Tiger in because some golfers see him that way.
no, but makes me kinda tread lightly...Originally posted by: Evadman
I'm the sh!t because I can ban everyone in this thread. Anyone who disagrees will be banned.
Annoying isn't it 🙂
Originally posted by: alkemyst
Originally posted by: James3shin
Originally posted by: SpanishFry
you shouldn't lump Tiger in with those guys. He's not a cocky douche
I had to think twice about Tiger, but a lot of the golfers I know don't like Tiger because they think he's cocky. I don't play golf and only see the highlights and personally didn't think he boasted much, but if he did, he has the right to do so. I just lumped Tiger in because some golfers see him that way.
Tiger has every right to be cocky....those around him shouldn't be jealous.