Why do Indian people always ask for discounts?

[Cristatus]

Originally posted by: GoodToGo
Let me tell you something about the Indians in America. Now I am an Indian myself and so my opinion is definitely unbiased. More than 90% of Indians are either Gujrati or Tamilian. Between both of them, Gujratis are ~75% and Tamilians are ~25%. In any case, both these sects are the....wait for it.....WORST among all the rest.

Gujratis are known for being the very stingy but yet being the most showy. They will try everything to impress others like dressing up, buying imitations of branded items, fake american accents etc etc but ....yup...still cheap bastages. They own most the motels around but in academics, they are the most dumb fvck ignorant POS's. I went to undergrad and met lots of guju's but none in grad...hmmm..wonder why? :shocked: These guys as you may know, own most the motels around town and their last name is either Shah or Patel. They are also renowned for being completely oblivious of anyone who is not guju and would rather DIE than helping a non guju.

Tamilians are on the other hand more simple but thats about the only positive adjective. They are the generic stinky guys who go around without taking showers and giving other guys a bad name. If you think Gujratis are bad, these guys are the grand daddies. They wont cough up anything....even a dollar. I was living with some and god it was a nightmare. Every time for monthly bill setllement, it used to be a nightmare. The monthly bill used to come as the same but of course the grocery and other utility bills always meant a little plus and minus. But nooooooooooooooooooo, how the hell did the bill come as five dollars more???!11!!!!1?? They used to act as if it was a big deal. OMG, just pay the frigging bill and get on with it. Of course they are very smart in academics. I think in my Grad lab, I was the only Non Tamilian. I knew many Tamilians who doing PHD's in several different topics. But then I also knew a Tamilian who saved up $45,000 in his PHD of 5 years at a monthly stipend of $1800. He never ate out, he never went to the movies and wore the same clothes. At the end of PHD if someone asked him what he did in college, I would dread to hear him answer. He ate the same POS (sambhar which is a popular dish). This guy had enough sambar powder (bought in retail from India by packing in suitcases) to last him a lifetime. OBTW, many of them are vegetarian for religious reasons :roll: If ever a Tamilian comes to eat with you, run out screaming or make an excuse ("Yes I think I am coming down with testicular cancer"). These guys are vegetarian freaks ("Why are you killing the innocent chickens?") I used to love telling them that my favorite dish a medium rare 20 oz Applebees Porterhouse with mashed potatoes just to get a rise out of them.

If you belong to any of the above 2 categories, then fvck you. You are worst of the worst and deserve to back to your POS shanty town in the middle of nowhere. If you are not, then good job on being a person who has a decent opinion of living and doesnt put money above everything else.

No, fvck you (I'm Guju)

Anyways, if you are Indian, then where you from? Obviously not from Gujrat, or from Tamil Nadu, or Sri Lanka, or whereever else you have "Tamilians".

 

[sxr7171]

nm

 

[sxr7171]

Originally posted by: Deeko

Originally posted by: jbloggs
Ah Bashing indians on an Indian run website/forum, now thats freedom.

Also amazing how the ABCDs come out the woodwork to bash the FOBs, unity is obviously not a strong point.

Back on topic....If you don't ask, you don't get. I saved $600 when buying HDTV at HiFi-Buys. Circuit City and Sears were also willing to give discounts. The thing is not to talk to a regular sales rep who really does not have the authority or the power to make things happen, but instead to someone who does. Also shop during Business Quarter-End when store managers are trying to make their numbers.

This 'unity' you speak of is the reason at a 'diverse' college such as mine, there is no diversity....indians hang out only with indians, asians only with asians, blacks only with blacks, etc. Yer holdin back progress!

It's a little more complex than that. India is country of many langauges and cultures, and certain groups among them tend to just stick like glue. Gujus really tend to stick together and most of the time don't like to befriend other people including other Indians. You might see them with another kind of Indian or someone of another ethnicity, but they will always consider them outsiders. You will be treated differently and if push comes to shove and there is time when it's between you and one their guju friends, the guju friend always comes first.

Punjabis also tend to only care about themselves and see everyone else as an outsider but a little less so.

I find that Malayalees (from the southen state of Kerala) and Bengalis tend to be the most accepting and broad-minded as well as on average more intellectual and cultured.

 

[mAdMaLuDaWg]

Originally posted by: sxr7171

Originally posted by: Deeko

Originally posted by: jbloggs
Ah Bashing indians on an Indian run website/forum, now thats freedom.

Also amazing how the ABCDs come out the woodwork to bash the FOBs, unity is obviously not a strong point.

Back on topic....If you don't ask, you don't get. I saved $600 when buying HDTV at HiFi-Buys. Circuit City and Sears were also willing to give discounts. The thing is not to talk to a regular sales rep who really does not have the authority or the power to make things happen, but instead to someone who does. Also shop during Business Quarter-End when store managers are trying to make their numbers.

This 'unity' you speak of is the reason at a 'diverse' college such as mine, there is no diversity....indians hang out only with indians, asians only with asians, blacks only with blacks, etc. Yer holdin back progress!

It's a little more complex than that. India is country of many langauges and cultures, and certain groups among them tend to just stick like glue. Gujus really tend to stick together and most of the time don't like to befriend other people including other Indians. You might see them with another kind of Indian or someone of another ethnicity, but they will always consider them outsiders. You will be treated differently and if push comes to shove and there is time when it's between you and one their guju friends, the guju friend always comes first.

Punjabis also tend to only care about themselves and see everyone else as an outsider but a little less so.

I find that Malayalees (from the southen state of Kerala) and Bengalis tend to be the most accepting and broad-minded as well as on average more intellectual and cultured.

Yeah.... Malu Pride!!!
<--Obviously Malayalee

Seriously though, I've got many North Indian friends and although some of them could be cheap... most of them are cool.

But geez guyz... some of you Desis got some serious issues.... you are BEING way too harsh.

 

[captains]

Originally posted by: cjgallen

Originally posted by: richardycc
"I will give you the best price today, $44.50!"

lol, I loved that bit

:thumbsup:

 

[zoiks]

Originally posted by: Nitemare

Originally posted by: KPSHAH316
Before I say anything: I AM INDIAN, both parents originally from Bombay, and I've actually been there.

I worked at Best Buy in the Home Theater department and my family owns a French-Indian restaraunt in Manhattan. _MOST_ Indian people are very cheap with no class. They want everything for free and supposedly can't afford whatever they are looking at unless you lower the price. Its really disgusting. They don't seem to treat people well and can't understand that the people that work there aren't directly responsible for the prices or negotiation.

However, there is a way to negotiate and there is not way to negotiate. Most Indian people don't understand this.

PS: Mods if this is offensive, I'll take it down or edit the post. Regardless, this is how I feel.

I think alot of people that work retail share your sentiment

I agree. I worked in a retail electronics shop for 4 years when I was going to school and I experienced the same thing. You could tell when none of the sales persons would wanna approach the customer if he/she were Indian. They (the customer) would just haggle for a long time and most of the time not buy anything in the end.
But I also noticed most asian customers were pretty much the same too. You would have this customer who couldn't speak english properly but they would be repeating '10 percent' '10 percent' to you like we had a policy of giving 10 percent off to anyone who asked for it.

 

[psteng19]

Personally, I'll just shop online until I see something for the price I'm willing to pay.
No dealing with sales people, no sales pressure, no haggling.


Some of you Indians ripping on each other gotta calm down, and not worry about your image.
Most people don't even think that Indians are cheap.
I didn't know until I watched the Russell Peters clip, and now this thread.
Well, now that I think back, the last Black Friday at Office Depot, the line was 80% Indians, and in my town they make up maybe .05% of the census. They were all there at like 6AM and their shopping carts were filled to the top. But I didn't think they were cheap; just smart consumers picking up some good deals.
Anyway, I digress.
Chinese people are cheap too and I bet that stereotype is more known.

 

[chiwawa626]

Originally posted by: L1FE
Because culturally Asian marketplaces are much more flexible and pricing and are highly driven by bargaining. When I went to visit in China I felt really awkward at first bargaining for things, thinking it was an insult (being an American) to underbid by so much. I quickly got over that when I realized everyone EXPECTED that and would actually think you were weird if you didn't.

Thats the answer, and it was one of the posts on the first page. I love how everyone here has bullshit, racist, or selfhating theories behind why people do things.

If one of you non-bargainers went to asia people whould be like "wow, you ever have a customer who comes in and dosen't even try to bargain - thats weird".

If you see that most indians are frugal, look for good deals, use coupons, and ask for discounts, then it must mean that it has something to do with their upbringing, something common for all indians. American born Indian youth usually aren't as blatantly frugal, but still carry it with them, most of these kids have parents who are super frugal because they grew up in a country where its a part of society.

 

[Slickone]

Originally posted by: KPSHAH316
Again, I would say that depends on which Indians you deal with. Indians are very motivated people-some are sheep, some are ambitious, with your good and bad in each category. I would notice the clean, polite Indians would always drive a Mercedes/BMW/Lexus. The ones with disgusting hygeine had a Toyota/Honda. I don't understand why affluence correlates with personal appearence, but go figure.

And Mazdas! When I worked at a Mazda dealer, we had at least one (different) person named Patel come in almost every day. I about gagged getting in their car, it reeked so bad of garlic. BTW, I also worked at a Chevy dealer, and had very few Indian customers.

Also I posted something for sale here on the office bulletin board one time for $10-$12, and an Indian said he's interested, so met him, and he offered me $2, got mad when I refused, and wouldn't buy for anything higher. I came close to yelling 'This isn't India!'.

On that note, one of my best buds in college was Indian, cool guy, wasn't cheap, didn't stick, etc.

 

[The Pentium Guy]

Originally posted by: Ikonomi

Originally posted by: richardycc
"I will give you the best price today, $44.50!"

lmao

"Be a man!"

-"WHaat? I only save 50 cents!"
-"You take the 50 cents and you go somewhere.... and you save one dolla!! You take the dolla and go too the dolla storr and you buy something else! Be a man!"

 

[MeanMeosh]

at most of the self-hating indians in the post.

i just ask to see if they'll give me a lower price. i recently did a one-way rental from austin to houston at enterprise, and they gave me a chevy tahoe (large SUV) for $65 a day... they were originally $110 a day. these are one way rentals, so the prices are higher. no extras for mileage, and they also waived the $10/day under-25 charge because i asked. i saved a buttload of money by asking.

and if they had said "no sir, we can't reduce the price on the rental", then i would have paid the extra money and drove off on my merry way. what's the harm in asking?

i'm an indian, but i'm a coconut. brown on the outside, white on the inside.

(p.s.: tamil hating guy - screw you too)

 

[The Pentium Guy]

Originally posted by: logic1485

Originally posted by: KPSHAH316
Before I say anything: I AM INDIAN, both parents originally from Bombay, and I've actually been there.

I worked at Best Buy in the Home Theater department and my family owns a French-Indian restaraunt in Manhattan. _MOST_ Indian people are very cheap with no class. They want everything for free and supposedly can't afford whatever they are looking at unless you lower the price. Its really disgusting. They don't seem to treat people well and can't understand that the people that work there aren't directly responsible for the prices or negotiation.

However, there is a way to negotiate and there is not way to negotiate. Most Indian people don't understand this.

PS: Mods if this is offensive, I'll take it down or edit the post. Regardless, this is how I feel.

WOW! You just insulted yourself!

Anyhow, I have realized, how people have these post about Indian toilets having no toilet paper and Indian people smelling (can't find the original thread, but that's a similar one) and Indian people bargaining. Don't people have any respect? Especially how the Indians are always degrading themselves just (like above) because they feel they have to join in. Don't you have any sense of national pride? So what if your accent is funny, so what if your hair is funny? So what if you fvcking skin color is different, you are different to everyone else, and there is no point in trying to fit into someone else's image of what you should be.

The same applies for other nationalities. Just because you are born in England, but are of Hong Kong descendant, does not mean that you are not Hong Kong-ese (for the lack of a better term). You are who you are. Just because you live in another country does not mean you have to change you clothing style, or your religion (ok, maybe driving style, but that's different).

GET OVER IT!!

(delete this post if you have to, but I stand for who I am, not for someone else!)

Thank god someone stepped in with some sense.

Let me tell you something about the Indians in America. Now I am an Indian myself and so my opinion is definitely unbiased. More than 90% of Indians are either Gujrati or Tamilian. Between both of them, Gujratis are ~75% and Tamilians are ~25%. In any case, both these sects are the....wait for it.....WORST among all the rest.

Gujratis are known for being the very stingy but yet being the most showy. They will try everything to impress others like dressing up, buying imitations of branded items, fake american accents etc etc but ....yup...still cheap bastages. They own most the motels around but in academics, they are the most dumb fvck ignorant POS's. I went to undergrad and met lots of guju's but none in grad...hmmm..wonder why? These guys as you may know, own most the motels around town and their last name is either Shah or Patel. They are also renowned for being completely oblivious of anyone who is not guju and would rather DIE than helping a non guju.

Tamilians are on the other hand more simple but thats about the only positive adjective. They are the generic stinky guys who go around without taking showers and giving other guys a bad name. If you think Gujratis are bad, these guys are the grand daddies. They wont cough up anything....even a dollar. I was living with some and god it was a nightmare. Every time for monthly bill setllement, it used to be a nightmare. The monthly bill used to come as the same but of course the grocery and other utility bills always meant a little plus and minus. But nooooooooooooooooooo, how the hell did the bill come as five dollars more???!11!!!!1?? They used to act as if it was a big deal. OMG, just pay the frigging bill and get on with it. Of course they are very smart in academics. I think in my Grad lab, I was the only Non Tamilian. I knew many Tamilians who doing PHD's in several different topics. But then I also knew a Tamilian who saved up $45,000 in his PHD of 5 years at a monthly stipend of $1800. He never ate out, he never went to the movies and wore the same clothes. At the end of PHD if someone asked him what he did in college, I would dread to hear him answer. He ate the same POS (sambhar which is a popular dish). This guy had enough sambar powder (bought in retail from India by packing in suitcases) to last him a lifetime. OBTW, many of them are vegetarian for religious reasons If ever a Tamilian comes to eat with you, run out screaming or make an excuse ("Yes I think I am coming down with testicular cancer"). These guys are vegetarian freaks ("Why are you killing the innocent chickens?") I used to love telling them that my favorite dish a medium rare 20 oz Applebees Porterhouse with mashed potatoes just to get a rise out of them.

If you belong to any of the above 2 categories, then fvck you. You are worst of the worst and deserve to back to your POS shanty town in the middle of nowhere. If you are not, then good job on being a person who has a decent opinion of living and doesnt put money above everything else.

+

(p.s.: tamil hating guy - screw you too)

=

GoodToGo, you're a typical abcd anyways. You're stereotyping people. Stop trolling seriously. Where the hell's your national pride anyways?

(For the non-indian people, btw, abcd = american born confused desi, desi being an adjective for indian).

And yeah I fit with "25% of other indians" (tamilians) but you can't really generalize people based on their origin. Jeez.

I'm not denying in any way that indians haggle on pricing. Definately true, but that's becuase they were brought up that way (especially 1st gens). But it is true that some people take it too far. You can't really judge people on the extremes, you got to look at the average joe (or... in this case.... the average.... rahul or something).

Again, as a reminder this is a forum started by an Indian.

But geez guyz... some of you Desis got some serious issues.... you are BEING way too harsh.

Agreed. You guys need to chill a bit.

-The Pentium Guy

 

[Last Rezort]

Originally posted by: L1FE
Because culturally Asian marketplaces are much more flexible and pricing and are highly driven by bargaining. When I went to visit in China I felt really awkward at first bargaining for things, thinking it was an insult (being an American) to underbid by so much. I quickly got over that when I realized everyone EXPECTED that and would actually think you were weird if you didn't.

Indians come from asia?

 

[zinkpig]

Dunno WTF is up with stereotyping based on which part of INDIA people are from. Stereotyping probably worked maybe 20-30 years ago where people rarely stepped out of their own territories. It doesn?t apply so well today with the globalization thing. I would even say it a softer form of racism/ judging people based on what caste they belonged to. People who stick to their clan for security are just stuck in the past.

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: Demon-Xanth

Originally posted by: akubi

Heh, a coworker of mine was over in Hong Kong, he'd screw with people by OVERbidding. They'd end up knocking the price down for him.

huh?

If something were listed for $1, he'd offer $2. Then they'd turn around explaining the concept of haggling, and end tell him to pay $0.50.

They obviously were not salesmen then...and in the end who'd lower their price for an idiot? Did your friend have a droopy eye or something to play the sympathy card with?

 

[Blastomyces]

Haha, I just got off the phone setting up the Cable internet at my new place. Got them down to 39.99 for Comcast HSI + Standard cable + HDTV + free installation and equiptment for 12 months. Not the greatest deal, but hey they initally wanted $80/month.

 

[isasir]

Originally posted by: Last Rezort

Originally posted by: L1FE
Because culturally Asian marketplaces are much more flexible and pricing and are highly driven by bargaining. When I went to visit in China I felt really awkward at first bargaining for things, thinking it was an insult (being an American) to underbid by so much. I quickly got over that when I realized everyone EXPECTED that and would actually think you were weird if you didn't.

Indians come from asia?

Uh, which continent does your geography books say they come from?

 

[acivick]

I agree with whomever said that there is a wrong and a right way of bargaining.

For instance, you don't go to the 17 year old salesman (me way back when) at Treasure Island asking him continuously over the course of about an hour of sales pitching if he can do something about the price. He certainly doesn't have the authority to reduce a premium >$3500 patio set (or a $200 patio set for that matter) any further than the prices listed. And he certainly doesn't appreciate it when you talk down to him and generally act very rude when he tells you there's nothing he can do about it and you should speak to the manager. Now on the other hand, if you ask if the manager can do something about it before treating the salesman with contempt, you might have a bit better luck and save yourself a few hundred dollars, or at least maybe the shipping cost.

I also think that there's a difference between having national pride about where you are from or what culture you are a part of and refusing to learn and/or accept the customs and rules associated with the country YOU CHOSE TO MOVE TO. I have as much of a problem with my Sicilian grandmother refusing to learn English in the past 50 or so years she's been here as I do with certain Indians (read: NOT ALL, as I have had a fair number of Indian friends) treating every retail outlet as their own personal marketplace. The majority of immigrants learn to assimilate themselves eventually, but there is always a few that give the others a bad name.

 

[Zontor]

:musicunjab, Punjab is for me:music:

Gotta love Heywood Banks

 

[sxr7171]

Originally posted by: mAdMaLuDaWg

Originally posted by: sxr7171

Originally posted by: Deeko

Originally posted by: jbloggs
Ah Bashing indians on an Indian run website/forum, now thats freedom.

Also amazing how the ABCDs come out the woodwork to bash the FOBs, unity is obviously not a strong point.

Back on topic....If you don't ask, you don't get. I saved $600 when buying HDTV at HiFi-Buys. Circuit City and Sears were also willing to give discounts. The thing is not to talk to a regular sales rep who really does not have the authority or the power to make things happen, but instead to someone who does. Also shop during Business Quarter-End when store managers are trying to make their numbers.

This 'unity' you speak of is the reason at a 'diverse' college such as mine, there is no diversity....indians hang out only with indians, asians only with asians, blacks only with blacks, etc. Yer holdin back progress!

It's a little more complex than that. India is country of many langauges and cultures, and certain groups among them tend to just stick like glue. Gujus really tend to stick together and most of the time don't like to befriend other people including other Indians. You might see them with another kind of Indian or someone of another ethnicity, but they will always consider them outsiders. You will be treated differently and if push comes to shove and there is time when it's between you and one their guju friends, the guju friend always comes first.

Punjabis also tend to only care about themselves and see everyone else as an outsider but a little less so.

I find that Malayalees (from the southen state of Kerala) and Bengalis tend to be the most accepting and broad-minded as well as on average more intellectual and cultured.

Yeah.... Malu Pride!!!
<--Obviously Malayalee

Seriously though, I've got many North Indian friends and although some of them could be cheap... most of them are cool.

But geez guyz... some of you Desis got some serious issues.... you are BEING way too harsh.

My best friend is Guju actually, and I've known him for almost 15 years now so we go back a long way. I have a mixture of North and South Indian friends now but I tend to actually be closer to my Non-Indian friends these days because of some of the politics among the Indian friends here (one of them - an ex-roomate - I can't stand) and the fact that they tend to stick together.

Usually when I see an Indian I just see them as Indian, but I was a little surprised to find that some Punjabis and Gujus look at you and the first thing they see is a South Indian and not just an Indian. One of the kids in my class (Punjabi) kept asking me in lab where this one South Indian girl (who he's much closer to) was and I replied that just becuase I'm from the South doesn't mean I'm her keeper. He replied that he knows where all the other Punjabis in the room are and pointed them out to me. I just said "what a divided country we come from, it's a shame," and left. He seemed pretty embarassed by that. Sometimes I think India as single country wasn't really meant to be.

All this is apart from some of the South Indian comments and jokes I've heard from these people. I could just as easily point out the differences in education levels, per capita income, public health expenditure, % households with electricity, incidents of communal violence, and literacy between the two regions, but I won't.

 

[The Pentium Guy]

Originally posted by: sxr7171
Sometimes I think India as single country wasn't really meant to be.

Aww don't feel that way.

 

[OS]

LOL, this thread is awesome.

Originally posted by: Mani
Anyways on topic, yea Indians are known to be this way. Believe it or not though, it's not a way to arrogantly throw a 2$ mousepad in the face of retail employees in order to make their lives a living hell. The fact is, a lot of Indians are just that cheap. That combined with the fact that they are used to haggling on EVERYTHING as is customary in India, it's in their blood. Given time living in the US though, they unlearn the behavior.

Someone used an example of the $2 mousepad. A similar example is my (Caucasian) friend who bought a car at MSRP because demand was high and dealers would not budge on price. He was feeling pretty crappy that he had to pay the full price tag for the car, though he loved it and needed it for family transport. So he got the dealer to throw $100 wheel locks for free. This is a very similar situation and most people wouldn't give it a second thought or make judgements on the guy for asking for the wheel locks. Just something to put this in perspective.

Well, there is a time cost associated with it also. If the scenario is for real, trying to cut 1K off the asking price of a car gets you further than trying to get a $2 mousepad for free.

Hell, if I went to a store to haggle over a $2 mousepad, I'd lose no matter what based on the time I pissed away. It's not fun, you piss everyone off and the return is basically nothing.

I agree though, that retail prices are mostly bad jokes, but I don't haggle. I just wait for a sale or buy it online.

Culture I can understand though, my parents are from taiwan, they still give me a hassle over throwing away a little bit of food at the end of a meal. So what, I threw away maybe $.25 in food, like us americans need to eat any more. Hell I'll probably pay more in drugs and surgery down the line if I eat everything instead of throwing out what I don't feel like finishing.

 

[mAdMaLuDaWg]

Originally posted by: Last Rezort

Originally posted by: L1FE
Because culturally Asian marketplaces are much more flexible and pricing and are highly driven by bargaining. When I went to visit in China I felt really awkward at first bargaining for things, thinking it was an insult (being an American) to underbid by so much. I quickly got over that when I realized everyone EXPECTED that and would actually think you were weird if you didn't.

Indians come from asia?

Are you for real?????

DARWINISM HAS FAILED US MY FRIENDS... IT HAS FAILED US!!!

 

[amol]

:music: Welcome to India where the cows eat hay and we drive auto rickshaw ev-e-ryday! :music:

 

[sxr7171]

Originally posted by: OS
LOL, this thread is awesome.

Originally posted by: Mani
Anyways on topic, yea Indians are known to be this way. Believe it or not though, it's not a way to arrogantly throw a 2$ mousepad in the face of retail employees in order to make their lives a living hell. The fact is, a lot of Indians are just that cheap. That combined with the fact that they are used to haggling on EVERYTHING as is customary in India, it's in their blood. Given time living in the US though, they unlearn the behavior.

Someone used an example of the $2 mousepad. A similar example is my (Caucasian) friend who bought a car at MSRP because demand was high and dealers would not budge on price. He was feeling pretty crappy that he had to pay the full price tag for the car, though he loved it and needed it for family transport. So he got the dealer to throw $100 wheel locks for free. This is a very similar situation and most people wouldn't give it a second thought or make judgements on the guy for asking for the wheel locks. Just something to put this in perspective.

Well, there is a time cost associated with it also. If the scenario is for real, trying to cut 1K off the asking price of a car gets you further than trying to get a $2 mousepad for free.

Hell, if I went to a store to haggle over a $2 mousepad, I'd lose no matter what based on the time I pissed away. It's not fun, you piss everyone off and the return is basically nothing.

I agree though, that retail prices are mostly bad jokes, but I don't haggle. I just wait for a sale or buy it online.

Culture I can understand though, my parents are from taiwan, they still give me a hassle over throwing away a little bit of food at the end of a meal. So what, I threw away maybe $.25 in food, like us americans need to eat any more. Hell I'll probably pay more in drugs and surgery down the line if I eat everything instead of throwing out what I don't feel like finishing.

I can really see people arguing over a mousepad because they fail to realize just how low the margins on this $1000 product actually are. They think that the store must be making at least a $100 on it so throwing in a mousepad shouldn't mean anything. The alternative explanation is that they fell that $1000 is a lot of money and if they're getting something that costs so much, they shouldn't have to buy a seperate mouspad, which at places like BB costs $10-15.

As for wasting food, I find it wierd how some people think it is beneath them to finish everything on the plate, as if to mean that someone who leaves a clean plate is a starvin marvin of some sorts. There are people who don't have the food they need and would kill for the food you just threw away, it's not about the money, it's about the principle.

If you can't finish what's on your plate, put less on your plate.