Originally posted by: NetWareHead
Originally posted by: johnjohn320
Originally posted by: foghorn67
Originally posted by: johnjohn320
Meh, we enslaved them for a few hundred years, then "freed" them into Jim Crowe laws, then continued to segregate them and oppress them, sometimes blatantly, someties subtley, for decades thereafter. We've kind of had it coming. Let them be a little pissed off at us, we've earned it.
Maybe you do if you feel self incflicted guilt for being born like an emo douche. But for the normal people that don't believe they were around during the crusades, or during the colonial era, or who was born after the Civil Rights Act, I'll pass this guilt to someone like you.
Ok, since you're like the 4th dumbass to make this same point to me, I'll remind you that for one, I was making a joke. But besides that, if we want to analyze this seriously, you guys are completely ignorant of the reality that white people today have benefitted from racism, even if they were not the direct cause of it, just as blacks today, generally, are at a disadvatage as a result of past actions of whites. Everyone saying "why is there black caucas, a black college fund, etc" THAT'S WHY. You can't expect a whole race of people to recover and bounce right up to the top, maybe only a generation or two after schools were still segregated, minorities were denied access to public facilities, etc.
Man, listening to white people whine about "racist" things like the United Negro College fund or Black History Month is like listening to an NFL star whining about the existence of a Special Olympics, or a rocket scientist complaining that his tax dollars are going to fund special education for the mentally handicapped.
Oh bullshit. Please stop with the poor me I'm black (or insert whatever your race of choosing is) so you should pity me. And stop with yorur other bullshit point "whites have benefitted from racism also". I don't know what whites you are talking about, but my family arived here in the 70s so you need to be more accurate with what you say. I am causacian, from an Italian background specifically and yes my parents DID suffer from racism. My parents came here with only the clothes on their backs and change in their pockets. But they had something that alot of these whining race-baiter losers do not have: a good attitude regarding working, respect for fellow man and the urge to not quit and accept a handout and blame whoever is in charge for their hardships. My parents never accepted a gov't handout. 5 years after they had arrived here in America, they already had a paid off car, a house purchased, opened up a new business, LEARNED ENGLISH and had a kid on the way (me). And they even suffered discrimination because they did not speak english in the form of jobs, housing, education, mortgages etc... denied. This was back in the days where racism was more established and accepted and my parents had no nobody to complain to. But I'll tell you one thing. My father worked at a factory, Western Electric to be specific. My father always came early and left late and was always available to work an extra shift. Bottom line, he was a hard worker. Now it came time to lay off a people at the factory, my dad's job was kept and others were let go.
News for you: while yes I do agree that blacks are disadvantaged due to their past, they still hold MANY more advantages over immigrants to this country. One, they speak the language of this nation (arguably, if you want to even call it english, the crap that rolls out the mouths of some of these morons). Two, they are citizens of this country. Three, they even get gov't assistance and "reverse discrimination" policies that favor them like affirmative action etc... They should be able to pull themselves out of the crap. Why can't they whereas immigrants can? I know plenty of today's immigrants who have done well for themselves and their kids. But you take a trip into the ghetto and you can find black teenagers acomplishing NOTHING with their lives. You look at their parents and they are cashing welfare checks, food stamps and drinking malt liquor on porches like it is a good thing. Why is it that Blacks are a minority in this country, yet they form a significant proportion of the prison population?
Your previous point "You can't expect a whole race of people to recover and bounce right up to the top, maybe only a generation or two after schools were still segregated, minorities were denied access to public facilities, etc." is a bunch of bullshit plain and honest. If immigrants can do it then black people can do it as well. We are all human here and no race is more intelligent than the next. The "American Dream" is accesible to everyone. Whoever wants it bad enough and is willing to put in the time and effort to get it can have it. Look at the immigrating Chinese and Indians and other races who are striking it rich in this coutry. Not only are they successfull but they also have honor, family structure and good values to pass on to the children. What is wrong with these blacks is the lack of any ideals or honor. And that is why they are going NOWHERE.
If blacks are considered of absolutely no account, of no force whatsoever and people look at them as disadvantaged, it is the black's own fault. Their own culture is their own worst enemy. Like I stated in my past post, this culture rewards laziness, any attempts to better oneself and looks down on blacks that have accomplsihed something of substance. This fact is how Blacks have allowed society to grind them into the dust. Supporting them and retarded policies like affirmative action etc... in any way shows that you are also contributing to this problem as well. Look at successful Blacks. I don't believe any of them are Uncle Toms or Aunt Jemimas or sell-outs.