Originally posted by: n yusef
Instead of arguing about definitions of racism (an important debate, but a bit off-topic), we need to recognize that racism is more explicit racial language. Racism is getting asked for ID when you pay with a credit card, when the white customers before and after you were not questioned. Racism is a waiter giving the check that you asked for to the white person you are with. Racism is an all white cast on a TV show set in NYC. Racism is calling black criminals savage animals and white criminals disturbed. Racism comes in small acts, often without malicious intent. To claim that we live in a post-racial society is to be willfully ignorant.
Whenever I see whites complain about racism from PoC, I realize that they just don't get it. Getting called a "beloved patriot" by a impoverished teenager is not comparable to hearing a joke about "spics" from your employer who passed you up for a promotion.
I really like that you made an intelligent post, but again, you are TOTALLY wrong.
This is all the bullshit we've been fed since the 80's by guilty-feeling white people, and because it takes the blame and resposibility off the minority and makes them feel better, its allowed to continue.
It is NOT racist to get asked for ID. Pretty much ALL stores in America are required to ask for it when you use a credit card, be it state law, city or county ordinance, or just plain old corporate policy. If they dont ask its because they are scared you maybe did steal the card and they dont want a confrontation, which is also possibly store policy or just scared check-out clerks. If thats the case, they darn well wouldnt want to ask the black man because he's the one their scared of.
As far as waiters go: Suck it up. That minor, piddly shit and is the result of him dealing with thousands of different customers and learning that on average, blacks tend to not be the ones paying. If you really have a problem with, talk to the manager. Whining like a little girl does not solve anything. It only helps to prove and further establish your weakness, cowardice and anger.
TV? Suck it up. Thats even more stupid than the waiter issue. Even with all the Politically Correct Bullshit going on in this country there are still no laws requiring a private business, (like a TV studio) to hire X number of black actors and use them. In fact if there were, that would be racist. Thats another issue I dont have time to get into but most PC shit is actually very racist, but only if you dont believe the BS definition of racism that has been forced on us since the 1980's. If blacks wanna be on TV shows they should get off their butts and make some damn TV shows. That gets back to the whole concept of recieving free handouts which you didnt earn, a concept which (when dealing with the government and its PC nonsense) is almost always racist.
As far as the issue with criminals goes: If blacks would improve their lot in life and stop complaining & turning to crime as a way to get by, there wouldnt be as many in the criminal justice system, and this wouldnt be an issue.
You're wrong if you think whites in regular prison are any more likely to be "corrected" and return to society as productive individuals. The only prisoners who get treated well and arent likely to repeat is white-collar. I am more than willing to concede most of them are caucasion.
If racism is only coming at you in small acts without maclicious intent, AND YOU STILL CANT OVERCOME IT, then you are totally fucked. If the little things in life are holding you back then you will never know true success in the world. Incidentally Bill Cosby and many other successful black Americans agree with me.
Just about every black man who has worked his way out of the ghetto and into some status is saying the same thing: "Quit crying about the stupid shit and make something of yourself."
By the way, Bill Cosby is one of the guys who had to deal with REAL racism in his life, not the stupid, lame crap you used as your only examples. You need to talk to an old black man from the South about burning crosses and people disappearing and bodies in the swamps and firehoses and dogs and beatings.
No one, with any obvious intelligence (which this thread is lacking) said we live in a racism-free country. But your arguments are somewhat weak regardless.
Again I thank you for making your point in a clear and polite manner. With people like you discussing this we may actually get some damn progress made on this issue and move up in our civilization.
