Why are there multiple hate-win-8 threads?

[Maximilian]

He means we don't need multiple hate threads,for example if you go to the other forums and somebody post a similar thread(whatever subject does not have to be anti-thread)) they get merged/locked or warned by a Mod etc that there is an existing thread ie for example seen it in PC gaming many times etc...having too many threads on same thing is pointless and does make a mess of the forums.

Anyway guess this one is really up to the MODs to decide not us.

Yeah i know what he means i just don't see how people can get irked about multiple threads on the same thing... its not something that ive ever bothered about on any forum.

Multiple threads - single topic, it usually means this is a hot topic and the threads even being about the same thing often go off in different tangents and have differing points of view etc. Lumping it all together, there's just zero benefit IMO.

 

[Mem]

Yeah i know what he means i just don't see how people can get irked about multiple threads on the same thing... its not something that ive ever bothered about on any forum.

Multiple threads - single topic, it usually means this is a hot topic and the threads even being about the same thing often go off in different tangents and have differing points of view etc. Lumping it all together, there's just zero benefit IMO.

"Lumping it all together ",well you could say samething about multiple threads on samething,got to see it both ways,personally I like things neat so one big thread is my preference,it also stops the trolls and we all know they do appear in multiple threads,also I can look at those other threads I'm interested in on different topics rather then trollling through the multiple mess of same threads,end of the day OS forums are for more then one topic so we don't really need mutilple threads that cover same subject topic etc..

Again its really down to the Mods IMHO.

 

[colonelciller]

"Lumping it all together ",well you could say samething about multiple threads on samething,got to see it both ways,personally I like things neat so one big thread is my preference

One big thread = Censorship. You are advocating censorship. I have the impression that this forum a place for people to express opinions and ideas openly, without concern for suppressing opinions dis-favorable to Corporation X.

it also stops the trolls and we all know they do appear in multiple threads

This is patently absurd. People define a troll to be different things. I for one, define those who spend inordinate amount of time propagandizing for a company as trolls.

This tread reeks, and what I smell is the brainchild of a Microsoft PR firm. :thumbsdown:


:thumbsdown:thumbs down to suppressing the voice of those who are unhappy with a tech product
:thumbsdown:thumbs down to censorship and to those promoting it in this thread

censorship is not "tidy", thumbs down :thumbsdown:

 

[Mem]

One big thread = Censorship. You are advocating censorship. I have the impression that this forum a place for people to express opinions and ideas openly, without concern for suppressing opinions dis-favorable to Corporation X.



This is patently absurd. People define a troll to be different things. I for one, define those who spend inordinate amount of time propagandizing for a company as trolls.

This tread reeks, and what I smell is the brainchild of a Microsoft PR firm. :thumbsdown:


:thumbsdown:thumbs down to suppressing the voice of those who are unhappy with a tech product
:thumbsdown:thumbs down to censorship and to those promoting it in this thread

censorship is not "tidy", thumbs down :thumbsdown:

How is it censorship?..you can still post what you want on the subject(as long as you stick to forum guidelines),it keeps it all in one place, just like you see for one big thread for example in PC gaming ie WOW thread or Diablo 3 thread to name a few.

As to Troll ie "One who posts a deliberately provocative message to a newsgroup or mesage board with the intention of causing maximum disruption and argument" .


I've no problem with anybody posting positive or negative as long as its on subject in question and constructive.

Bottomline its down to the Mods.

 

[colonelciller]

the only bottom line here Mem, is that this thread is advocating censorship by dimishing the visibility of a viewpoint that you disagree with.

i understand why microsoft would find multiple threads (in any forum) that do not speak well of their product to be inconvenient. i also understand why individuals who are unnaturally preoccupied with promoting windows 8 would also find threads of windows 8 to be inconvenient.

enforcing a censored reality by forcefully merging all new threads with a perspective that you disagree with into one jumbled mess certainly would be a great way for microsoft suppress the visibility of the magnitude of dissatisfaction that exists around windows 8. It is a brilliant scheme, and it certainly will be effective in promoting the appearance of windows 8 success if only by suppressing anti-windows 8 commentary. This scheme will also simplify the job of any poster who feels tasked with defending windows 8 here on anandtech.

clever clever clever censorship plan
this censorship promoting thread reeks, and people should be ashamed for promoting it

 

[Mem]

the only bottom line here Mem, is that this thread is advocating censorship by dimishing the visibility of a viewpoint that you disagree with.

i understand why microsoft would find multiple threads (in any forum) that do not speak well of their product to be inconvenient. i also understand why individuals who are unnaturally preoccupied with promoting windows 8 would also find threads of windows 8 to be inconvenient.

enforcing a censored reality by forcefully merging all new threads with a perspective that you disagree with into one jumbled mess certainly would be a great way for microsoft suppress the visibility of the magnitude of dissatisfaction that exists around windows 8. It is a brilliant scheme, and it certainly will be effective in promoting the appearance of windows 8 success if only by suppressing anti-windows 8 commentary. This scheme will also simplify the job of any poster who feels tasked with defending windows 8 here on anandtech.

clever clever clever censorship plan
this censorship promoting thread reeks, and people should be ashamed for promoting it

the only bottom line here Mem, is that this thread is advocating censorship by dimishing the visibility of a viewpoint that you disagree with.

Not really censorship if you can post your viewpoint,you don't need 1000x threads in same forum on same subject matter to get your viewpoint across,as long as there is one thread you can get your viewpoint across.

I should point out when I say "one big thread" I mean for all forums and not just Win8 like you have stated Win8, like it has been done for ages, again PC gaming forum for example ,plenty of official big threads on Diablo3,WOW,Skyrim etc..

I just want all forums to be treated the same standard ie same rules ie OS forum should be same standard as the other forums.
For example I rather have one big thread on subject in question,regardless of topic or forum,then have hundred of threads on samething all over again all over the place,guess I like how neat PC gaming forum has always been compared to OS forum .

You could have one anti-8 thread and one pro-8 thread,but anymore on exactly same topic would be overkill IMHO,obviously you could change the subject and start a new thread.

Anyway think we have covered everything in a polite debate

Guess Mods will decide one way or another like I always keep saying .

 

[Maximilian]

"Lumping it all together ",well you could say samething about multiple threads on samething,got to see it both ways,personally I like things neat so one big thread is my preference,it also stops the trolls and we all know they do appear in multiple threads,also I can look at those other threads I'm interested in on different topics rather then trollling through the multiple mess of same threads,end of the day OS forums are for more then one topic so we don't really need mutilple threads that cover same subject topic etc..

Again its really down to the Mods IMHO.

Well like i said, the same subject can be discussed by differnet people from differing viewpoints, "i hate windows 8 because of X" vs "i hate windows 8 because of Y", both on the same subject but with differing points to be made.

Multiple tabs go nicely with multiple threads, try that in metro's IE10

Besides the majority of people i see complaining about multiple threads tend to be the ones that don't like those threads and simply want rid, i.e. simcity 5 fans complaining about the hate for the game they like, people who don't like apple complaining about iphone threads etc.

 

[Mem]

Well like i said, the same subject can be discussed by differnet people from differing viewpoints, "i hate windows 8 because of X" vs "i hate windows 8 because of Y", both on the same subject but with differing points to be made.

Multiple tabs go nicely with multiple threads, try that in metro's IE10

Besides the majority of people i see complaining about multiple threads tend to be the ones that don't like those threads and simply want rid, i.e. simcity 5 fans complaining about the hate for the game they like, people who don't like apple complaining about iphone threads etc.

I think you are missing my point,its not just hate threads or OS only but any thread that is duplicated etc... from I love threads to any other thread you can name,if its multiplied etc..its wrong we don't need multiple threads of the samething regardless of what it is about,so I'm talking about any duplicate/multiple thread of same subject in ANY forum.


As for IE10 no thanks!!!!!!!... not used IE as main browser since IE3 days,I'm Firefox /Opera fan which has way better customization .

 

[Ketchup]

Mem, you have been here for a while, so I am sure you know how these things work. This is something new, which is to say that this behavior is nothing new. It will pass. We saw it happen with 7, Vista, XP, etc.

It will die down. honestly, the OS forum is not that big. I don't know what your problem is here. Is it that hard to scroll past a couple threads you care nothing about?

 

[Mem]

Mem, you have been here for a while, so I am sure you know how these things work. This is something new, which is to say that this behavior is nothing new. It will pass. We saw it happen with 7, Vista, XP, etc.

It will die down. honestly, the OS forum is not that big. I don't know what your problem is here. Is it that hard to scroll past a couple threads you care nothing about?

I'm just giving my opinion so not a problem,I did not make this thread,I'm also being polite so don't see the big deal to be honest,yes I have seen it all come and go here since 2000.

I'll try and make it clear,look at PC gaming forum here http://forums.anandtech.com/forumdisplay.php?f=44 ,notice how many official threads there are,all on different subjects and no duplicates etc,maybe we just need one official hate thread here and official like thread,anyway think I covered everything I wanted to say .

 

[Stone Rain]

The easy explanation is that there are so many complaints about Windows 8 that you would die of old age before reading all of a post that listed them all.

 

[WelshBloke]

So as I'm reading this, you guys want people to start a new thread with every problem that people have with win8?

And you think that this will cut down on the amount of win8 threads?

Are you sure that you've thought this through?

 

[Maximilian]

So as I'm reading this, you guys want people to start a new thread with every problem that people have with win8?

And you think that this will cut down on the amount of win8 threads?

Are you sure that you've thought this through?

Nope, some dont give a toss (im one of them), others want to lump it all together to make less threads and have things "tidier"

 

[Ketchup]

So as I'm reading this, you guys ...

Group A

want people to start a new thread with every problem that people have with win8? And

Group B

you think that this will cut down on the amount of win8 threads?

The end.

Are you sure that you've thought this through?

Are you sure you actually read this thread before posting?

 

[Anteaus]

The easy explanation is that there are so many complaints about Windows 8 that you would die of old age before reading all of a post that listed them all.

True but unfortunately hyperbole seems to be more the rule than the exception lately. There are any number of OS releases from the past, both MS and other, that were far worse than Windows 8 when taken in context. I'm not comparing technology, but the package as a whole in terms of presentation, compatibility and interface. Windows 8's core is good, even if the interface is poorly designed. Ask anyone who dealt with Windows ME at release...now that was a POS. In comparison, Windows 8 is awesome. I'd take a badly designed interface with a solid core any day over a nice interface with a rotten core.

In regards to the multiple threads, I think the issue is less about Windows 8 and more about the fact that given the accessibility and anonymity of the internet. Many believe that there opinion is so clever and useful that they must hurry and share it with the world.

I live in the real world where there are plenty things to worry and get emotional about. DRM and Windows 8's interface are way down on my list of stuff, but you would swear that some people are so emotionally invested in this stuff that it becomes an addiction. I also think some people read way to much into things and have opinions implanted about things they might have otherwise come to difference conclusions about had they done things independently.

I'm not a psychologist and I'm not saying I know the inner working of the human mind, but I'm sure I'm not the only one that has noticed people get way too bent out of shape over some things.

Naturally the fact that I'm sharing my opinion makes me sort of a hypocrite, but at least I'm aware of it. haha

 

[wiin]

There are so many because them Win8 haters keep bringing them back. People get tired of reading their whining and ignores the thread. Well, them Win8 haters are not going to let that happen so they start another thread, with a different title maybe, but it is the same old whining. And they will continue whining till they decided to install Apple software or Linux. But even then, they still couldn't stop themselves whining about Win8. Nothing much can be done about them other than ignoring them.

Can't these be merged into one? Does not seem like there is any reason for each individual complaint to have its own thread.

I vote for an official "I hate Windows 8" thread, and leave the rest of this board for other legitimate troubleshooting and discussion.

 

[blankslate]

Because some people are fine with the Windows 7 version of the desktop interface and there wasn't really a good reason to mess with it. If MS really wants to push a new interface fine.

They could have at least had the option to boot to an older style gui in win8 without people having to download and install 3rd party software in order to do so.

 

[Zaap]

I've literally never seen more hypocritical pot-kettle-black butthurt sniveling over an OS than from the Win8 apologist crowd. Long multi-paragraph screeds whining about other people not liking an OS, wanting to sensor an entire forum, while guilty of everything and worse that they claim of others.

Not everyone likes MS's latest simpleton-looking OS. If this fact makes your emo rage flare up: get over it already, stop taking it so personally and move on.

 

[Mem]

I've literally never seen more hypocritical pot-kettle-black butthurt sniveling over an OS than from the Win8 apologist crowd. Long multi-paragraph screeds whining about other people not liking an OS, wanting to sensor an entire forum, while guilty of everything and worse that they claim of others.

Not everyone likes MS's latest simpleton-looking OS. If this fact makes your emo rage flare up: get over it already, stop taking it so personally and move on.

As usual you never bothered reading the posts here,for example I was saying ALL threads that are multiple etc... ie Win7 Win8,Win9,Win10,etc should be one big thread if its the same subject,then you can all post in here and rest of us can ignore or post depending on the topic in question,PC Gaming has many official threads of different topics,multiples get locked or moved quickly over there.

Is having many Win8 threads on same thing constructive,no
Is having many threads on samething regardless of topic constructive no.
Is having many threads on Win7 on same subject constructive, no.


Who cares if you like or hate ANY OS in question,we don't need lots of spam threads on samething,you don't see it in PC gaming forum because they have a tidier system and one official thread for hot topics etc...

For the record DOS 6.22 was my favourite Microsoft OS before Windows gave us all the bloat ,you want me to mention I like Linux more then any Microsoft Windows including Win7 or Win8 well I do :biggrin: .

 

[Zaap]

^ Case in point.

 

[Mem]

^ Case in point.

I guess you like multiple threads in OS forum on samething and think its good and tidy?..maybe try going over to PC gaming forum and take a leaf out of their book so to speak.

Try being constructive without being rude.


.

 

[Ketchup]

I guess you like multiple threads in OS forum on samething and think its good and tidy?..maybe try going over to PC gaming forum and take a leaf out of their book so to speak.

Try being constructive without being rude.


.

I think if you were an admin this forum would be very small. Image if you had a problem with your computer, and before you could get a reply you see that it had been moved to a 100+ post thread started a year ago, since your problem has "something" in common with the others.

The problem I see is if you start doing this with Windows 8, where would it stop?

Maybe I am missing the point of these forums, but I don't see how shutting people up so people like you can save 2 seconds of scrolling would be a good thing.

 

[Maximilian]

I've literally never seen more hypocritical pot-kettle-black butthurt sniveling over an OS than from the Win8 apologist crowd. Long multi-paragraph screeds whining about other people not liking an OS, wanting to sensor an entire forum, while guilty of everything and worse that they claim of others.

Not everyone likes MS's latest simpleton-looking OS. If this fact makes your emo rage flare up: get over it already, stop taking it so personally and move on.

:thumbsup:

Lol yup... i thought it was only Intel/AMD/Nvidia people got butthurt over but nope, MS as well lol.

 

[tracerbullet]

I think people are seeing 2 different things here - should there be multiple win8 "problem threads"? Heck yes, of course. Should there be multiple win8 "wah wah I hate it wah wah" threads? No! Well IMO that is.

Watching this thread continue, I don't think everyone's giving opinions on the same topic.

 

[Mem]

I think people are seeing 2 different things here - should there be multiple win8 "problem threads"? Heck yes, of course. Should there be multiple win8 "wah wah I hate it wah wah" threads? No! Well IMO that is.

Watching this thread continue, I don't think everyone's giving opinions on the same topic.

Exactly, multiple problem threads are welcome in that regard because everyone has different issues from software to hardware etc...