Why are some people so obsessed with their heritage?

[acemcmac]

Originally posted by: Smackem
I got buddies that vaguely look like they have a hint of Irish in them at some point, and they are farking hanging up posters on there wall and getting shamrock tatoos. Its just like they are so eager to grab onto ANYTHING

Interesting point. It is true - plenty of people are searching for something to identify with.

 

[Looney]

Originally posted by: JLGatsby
Except white people.

Note: I'm speaking about minorities who were born and raised in America.

Why do so many minorities take so much pride in some culture and country they're not really a part of?

Perfect Example: African Americans often refer to Africa as the "mother land." But most have never been to Africa or even know what it's like. Many are also into "dashikis" (colorful robes) and those cylinder shaped hats.

I've never seen them refer to Africa as the 'motherland' before.

But to answer your question... just because you don't care about where you came from, doesn't mean everybody else has. 'Americans' celebrate their own history such as Columbus and George Washington's achievement... or the American Civil war. Sure, you may be in the same country, but you certainly aren't in the same period. Just because I'm not living in China, doesn't mean i forget all about my roots and culture. I'm sure there are Americans who are borned and living abroad, maybe because their parents have moved their for work or military reasons, and yet they don't forget their roots.

 

[Goosemaster]

Originally posted by: JLGatsby

Originally posted by: Doggiedog
You think white people don't care about their heritage?

I would think that Genealogy sites are almost all white.

Yeah, but those people aren't obsessed with their culture itself, just their own direct descendants.

They're looking for names.

But most of them don't go off and then cook some super ethnic diner and dress up like the Ricola yodelers.

Then you don't know what you are talking about. People in every culture do it.

Just go to Denmark or any other peaceful European nation. They love reveling in their culture, and there is nothing wrong with that.


Somehow, just because other cultures are 'different' through their outspokenness or their rituals, they are labeled as weirdos.

 

[iamme]

Originally posted by: JLGatsby
Why do so many minorities take so much pride in some culture and country they're not really a part of?

that part of your statement is bound to rile people up. anytime you make sweeping generalizations, you're asking for a flame war. fact is, you don't know that "so many minorities aren't really part of the culture" they represent.

bottom line, there are some folks who are very proud of their heritage while living in America. that's the beauty of America. if you don't understand it, you're missing out.

just because you don't care about your heritage doesn't mean others can't be.

that said.....carry on with the inevitable flamewar. i'm predicting at least 3 pages

 

[mchammer]

Originally posted by: iamme

Originally posted by: JLGatsby
Why do so many minorities take so much pride in some culture and country they're not really a part of?

that part of your statement is bound to rile people up. anytime you make sweeping generalizations, you're asking for a flame war. fact is, you don't know that "so many minorities aren't really part of the culture" they represent.

bottom line, there are some folks who are very proud of their heritage while living in America. that's the beauty of America. if you don't understand it, you're missing out.

just because you don't care about your heritage doesn't mean others can't be.

that said.....carry on with the inevitable flamewar. i'm predicting at least 3 bans

 

[Goosemaster]

Originally posted by: iamme

Originally posted by: JLGatsby
Why do so many minorities take so much pride in some culture and country they're not really a part of?

that part of your statement is bound to rile people up. anytime you make sweeping generalizations, you're asking for a flame war. fact is, you don't know that "so many minorities aren't really part of the culture" they represent.

bottom line, there are some folks who are very proud of their heritage while living in America. that's the beauty of America. if you don't understand it, you're missing out.

just because you don't care about your heritage doesn't mean others can't be.

that said.....carry on with the inevitable flamewar. i'm predicting at least 3 pages

:thumbsup:


You want a beer....on the house...

uhemmm...some ale, laddy?

 

[JLGatsby]

Originally posted by: Goosemaster
<----watched too many movies with prissy, bratty, aristocrats

The whole "snotty drug addict rich kid" thing is a bullcrap myth.

I never have had a bad experience with a rich kid, but plenty with poor. But most poor kids are decent.

 

[Skunkwourk]

I think for some, they flaunt their pride because all their life, people looked down or ridiculed them over their heritage, but in an age that is, do I dare say, more tolerant, people are no longer ashamed to admit cultural pride. Personally for me, most of what I admire regarding my heritage is related to family traditions. I see nothing wrong with celebrating or holding on to something that has been passed down from ancestry to ancestry.

That being said, how do you distinguish when you are and are no longer part of a country? When you live somewhere else? If you weren't born there? Can't you have pride without being a resident of a country? What about multi ethnic people? I say let them celebrate their heritage. Personally I do believe that variety is the spice of life. Im asian btw...

 

[loup garou]

Originally posted by: iamme
just because you don't care about your heritage doesn't mean others can't be.

:thumbsup:

 

[JLGatsby]

Originally posted by: Looney
I've never seen them refer to Africa as the 'motherland' before.

But to answer your question... just because you don't care about where you came from, doesn't mean everybody else has. 'Americans' celebrate their own history such as Columbus and George Washington's achievement... or the American Civil war. Sure, you may be in the same country, but you certainly aren't in the same period. Just because I'm not living in China, doesn't mean i forget all about my roots and culture. I'm sure there are Americans who are borned and living abroad, maybe because their parents have moved their for work or military reasons, and yet they don't forget their roots.

(Assuming you're Chinese) What do you care about China for?

Shouldn't you care about America? Isn't that your real culture?

I don't care about Germany.

 

[Epic Fail]

Originally posted by: JLGatsby

Originally posted by: Doggiedog
You think white people don't care about their heritage?

I would think that Genealogy sites are almost all white.

Yeah, but those people aren't obsessed with their culture itself, just their own direct descendants.

They're looking for names.

But most of them don't go off and then cook some super ethnic diner and dress up like the Ricola yodelers.

You never heard of Italian dishes?

 

[JLGatsby]

Originally posted by: Eghck
That being said, how do you distinguish when you are and are no longer part of a country? When you live somewhere else? If you weren't born there? Can't you have pride without being a resident of a country? What about multi ethnic people? I say let them celebrate their heritage. Personally I do believe that variety is the spice of life. Im asian btw...

When you don't live there.

If you live in America (as a citizen), you should be proud of being an American.

 

[MBrown]

LOCK!!!

 

[MikeMike]

so what is jl gatsby talking about?

 

[Goosemaster]

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Let's celebrate a few cultures now :

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[JLGatsby]

Originally posted by: yamadakun
You never heard of Italian dishes?

Yeah, but most Italian families don't cook PRIMARILY Italian dishes.

But many Hispanic and other cultures like Indian will cook Mexican/Curry-based dishes on a nightly basis.

 

[Shame]

Originally posted by: JLGatsby

Originally posted by: Goosemaster
<----watched too many movies with prissy, bratty, aristocrats

Actually I grew up in a very interesting enviroment.

Very very poor extended family, but parents had money from "not legal" sources, and I attended a poor elementry school and a very wealthy high school. Most of my relatives were poor. So I knew poor kids and rich kids, and rich kids are a thousand times smarter, more well behaved, and nicer than poor kids.

I knew the richest of the rich (sons of billionaires) and the poorest (trailer park).

The whole "snotty drug addict rich kid" thing is a bullcrap myth.

I never have had a bad experience with a rich kid, but plenty with poor. But most poor kids are decent.

AND....

/end Christopher Titus voice.

WTH are you talking about?

 

[Goosemaster]

Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE
so what is jl gatsby talking about?

He is criticizing pride in oneself and in ones race and such...


As others have said, as aas many cheesy actors on tv say, which is in fact true, something that makes America great is that we are both free to, and in fact do, celebrate our differences and our unity in spite of them.

 

[JLGatsby]

Originally posted by: Shame
AND....

/end Christopher Titus voice.

WTH are you talking about?

Goosemaster called me an aristocrat and assumed I grew up rich and then made a false generalization about rich kids.

 

[Looney]

Originally posted by: JLGatsby

Originally posted by: Eghck
That being said, how do you distinguish when you are and are no longer part of a country? When you live somewhere else? If you weren't born there? Can't you have pride without being a resident of a country? What about multi ethnic people? I say let them celebrate their heritage. Personally I do believe that variety is the spice of life. Im asian btw...

When you don't live there.

If you live in America (as a citizen), you should be proud of being an American.

So because somebody doesn't want to forget their heritage, they're not proud to be an American?

 

[Doggiedog]

Originally posted by: JLGatsby

Originally posted by: yamadakun
You never heard of Italian dishes?

Yeah, but most Italian families don't cook PRIMARILY Italian dishes.

But many Hispanic and other cultures like Indian will cook Mexican/Curry-based dishes on a nightly basis.

What are you talking about? Most of the Italian guys I know cook Italian food. Spaghetti is easy to make.

 

[Goosemaster]

Originally posted by: Shame

Originally posted by: JLGatsby

Originally posted by: Goosemaster
<----watched too many movies with prissy, bratty, aristocrats

Actually I grew up in a very interesting enviroment.

Very very poor extended family, but parents had money from "not legal" sources, and I attended a poor elementry school and a very wealthy high school. Most of my relatives were poor. So I knew poor kids and rich kids, and rich kids are a thousand times smarter, more well behaved, and nicer than poor kids.

I knew the richest of the rich (sons of billionaires) and the poorest (trailer park).

The whole "snotty drug addict rich kid" thing is a bullcrap myth.

I never have had a bad experience with a rich kid, but plenty with poor. But most poor kids are decent.

AND....

/end Christopher Titus voice.

WTH are you talking about?

It's just excuses...



<-----been friends of people that make less than $7000 a year or even poorer (starving) and millionairs alike:

WELCOME TO AMERICA

 

[JLGatsby]

Originally posted by: Doggiedog
What are you talking about? Most of the Italian guys I know cook Italian food. Spaghetti is easy to make.

On a regular basis? They eat it like it's an everyday food? I don't think so.

Many Hispanic and Indian families will cook Mexican and Indian food every night, like it's as normal as a steak.

 

[Goosemaster]

Originally posted by: JLGatsby

Originally posted by: yamadakun
You never heard of Italian dishes?

Yeah, but most Italian families don't cook PRIMARILY Italian dishes.

But many Hispanic and other cultures like Indian will cook Mexican/Curry-based dishes on a nightly basis.

urgh.....

 

[Skunkwourk]

Originally posted by: JLGatsby

Originally posted by: Eghck
That being said, how do you distinguish when you are and are no longer part of a country? When you live somewhere else? If you weren't born there? Can't you have pride without being a resident of a country? What about multi ethnic people? I say let them celebrate their heritage. Personally I do believe that variety is the spice of life. Im asian btw...

When you don't live there.

If you live in America (as a citizen), you should be proud of being an American.

I am proud to be American, I guess that what I was getting at, why can't you be proud of both?