Paladin3
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Those wiki homicide rates are just raw info, and should be ignored if you can't look at those numbers with a little common sense.
How many times are guns used legally in self-defense against a criminal and then that shooting gets reported on the US homicide rate statistic, then read to mean higher crime? Our homicide numbers include cops justifiably shooting criminals too if I remember correctly, and attempts, not just when death was the end result. And then people lump in the MEXICO stats with the US. Heck, Mexico is a war zone!
In the UK you are more likely to get mugged and beat up by a gang with knives. Since you only end up in the hospital and not dead then UK homicide rate is lower, but are you really safer? Is there really less crime in the UK?
It comes down to this question: do you want to live in a country where only the criminals are armed, or would you rather be in a country that allows law abiding citizens to at least attempt to protect themselves?
Btw, I live in North Idaho. EVERYONE here has a gun and it's still a darn safe place to live. I attribute that to the character and morals of the people living here.
How many times are guns used legally in self-defense against a criminal and then that shooting gets reported on the US homicide rate statistic, then read to mean higher crime? Our homicide numbers include cops justifiably shooting criminals too if I remember correctly, and attempts, not just when death was the end result. And then people lump in the MEXICO stats with the US. Heck, Mexico is a war zone!
In the UK you are more likely to get mugged and beat up by a gang with knives. Since you only end up in the hospital and not dead then UK homicide rate is lower, but are you really safer? Is there really less crime in the UK?
It comes down to this question: do you want to live in a country where only the criminals are armed, or would you rather be in a country that allows law abiding citizens to at least attempt to protect themselves?
Btw, I live in North Idaho. EVERYONE here has a gun and it's still a darn safe place to live. I attribute that to the character and morals of the people living here.
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