Why are salaries so low in the UK?

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JimmiG

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All countries except for the USA are impoverished third-world countries with piss poor salaries. Everyone knows that.

Also, you get more paid vacation, shorter working hours and free health-care. But that's beside the point.
 

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All countries except for the USA are impoverished third-world countries with piss poor salaries. Everyone knows that.

Also, you get more paid vacation, shorter working hours and free health-care. But that's beside the point.

I lol'd
 

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Lifer
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London is a terrible place to live. High taxes, Very expensive everything, and a just plan crappy place to live. It might be fun to visit for 1-2 days, after that, I wouldn't want to touch it with a ten foot poll.

I could see wanting to live in other parts of england (The midlands are quite nice.) It does have its ups, international foodstuffs is one thing that we don't really get in america that you get in england. Public transport is nice. And if I was going broke, england's welfare system is much better then the one here in the US.

That being said, I don't think I would ever want to live there again. The people are trapped on an island and many of them don't even know the difference. The government brainwashing is so thick and heavy, it is almost enough to make anyone go nuts.

Curse at a bus driver? We have CCTV cameras and DNA swabs to find you!!! (even though we have no idea who you are or what your dna looks like). Use a TV without a license? We'll find you!

The things you say are downsides I think are brilliant. TV Licences give us the BBC, CCTV means that retards can't break the law without being caught. Brilliant.

Government brainwashing? That's interesting coming from an American.

Also I adore London, I'll be moving up there very soon, and I can't wait.
 

Cogman

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This. Very This.



The best reasons to live in the UK are healthcare, history, London (which is one of the most amazing cities I've ever visited) no guns, Education, Depending on where you go it can be very picturesque, and if you aren't living in London then houses and what-not can be very cheap.

Housing prices, compared to the US, are through the roof. Want a house that doesn't touch another house? You are easily looking at spending 250,000->500,000 pounds. Yes, you can find cheap housing for someones attic, but for the same price you are looking at spending big money.

Amazing cities to visit aren't necessarily amazing cities to live in.
 

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Lifer
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Housing prices, compared to the US, are through the roof. Want a house that doesn't touch another house? You are easily looking at spending 250,000->500,000 pounds. Yes, you can find cheap housing for someones attic, but for the same price you are looking at spending big money.

Amazing cities to visit aren't necessarily amazing cities to live in.

That's definitely the case in London, but drive a couple of hours outside of London you can find a detached house for £100,000/ £150,000.

I've lived in London, can't wait to go back, I lived in Cambridge, can't wait to go back, both are brilliant in different ways. I've never found cities like them, (although Cambridge in Boston tries to be similar)
 
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Texashiker

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Also, you get more paid vacation, shorter working hours and free health-care. But that's beside the point.

Paid vacation - with our workaholic attitude, who has time to take a vacation?

Short work hours - you have got to be kidding. Americans love our jobs more then our families. We want longer work hours, not shorter.

Free health care - we love paying for expensive health care. We also love having shorter life spans, high infant mortality rates, epidemic rates of diabetes and heart disease then other developed nations.

Get with the program, in other words, Americans love working harder and dieing younger then other countries - its what made America great.
 

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Lifer
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Paid vacation - with our workaholic attitude, who has time to take a vacation?

Short work hours - you have got to be kidding. Americans love our jobs more then our families. We want longer work hours, not shorter.

Free health care - we love paying for expensive health care. We also love having shorter life spans, high infant mortality rates, epidemic rates of diabetes and heart disease then other developed nations.

Get with the program, in other words, Americans love working harder and dieing younger then other countries - its what made America great.

They love getting shot too! Don't forget
 
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Paid vacation - with our workaholic attitude, who has time to take a vacation?

Short work hours - you have got to be kidding. Americans love our jobs more then our families. We want longer work hours, not shorter.

Free health care - we love paying for expensive health care. We also love having shorter life spans, high infant mortality rates, epidemic rates of diabetes and heart disease then other developed nations.

Get with the program, in other words, Americans love working harder and dieing younger then other countries - its what made America great.

Either my sarcasm meter is broken or you have absolutely no concept of America.
 

Cogman

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The things you say are downsides I think are brilliant. TV Licences give us the BBC, CCTV means that retards can't break the law without being caught. Brilliant.
CCTV has hardly resulted in lower crime rates. England is one of the most watched nations on earth with the same crime rates as the US. 120 pounds a year per TV in the house, just to throw up an antenna and get public TV is crazy. And that is a flat rate on top of things like cable or satellite. (well, the rate may be higher.) Want Internet television? Guess what, you STILL have to (or are supposed to) pay the 120 pounds, per computer.

Yeah, sounds wonderful. I enjoy my free and cheap TV.

Government brainwashing? That's interesting coming from an American.
Have you lived in america for 2 years? No? Sorry, then you have no leg to stand on. I have lived in england for 2 years. I have a pretty good perspective on the difference between the US and england.

BTW, most people from england (like 99% that I ran into) that had visited the US LOVE it. The only people I saw that absolutely hated the US were those that had never been here.

Also I adore London, I'll be moving up there very soon, and I can't wait.
 
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That's definitely the case in London, but drive a couple of hours outside of London you can find a detached house for £100,000/ £150,000.

I've lived in London, can't wait to go back, I lived in Cambridge, can't wait to go back, both are brilliant in different ways. I've never found cities like them, (although Cambridge in Boston tries to be similar)

Or in Ameica I can spend half that and get a much nicer house.

I can't tell if all the responses in this thread are jokes or not.
Free healthcare in England? Are you serious. That's what the insanely high taxes pay for. Just because you aren't paying for your healthcare directly out of your pocket when you are in the doctors office, you are paying for it everytime you purchase something. That $8 a gallon gas you have, is more than 50% tax. $8 pints of lager. VAT ect is all tax to pay for the social engineering.
 

preslove

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My 6 months in london were the most fun I've ever had. One of the best cities in the world. Plus, you can get extremely cheap airfare to anywhere in Europe. I'd take 35k in London over $70k almost anywhere in America.
 

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That's definitely the case in London, but drive a couple of hours outside of London you can find a detached house for £100,000/ £150,000.

I've lived in London, can't wait to go back, I lived in Cambridge, can't wait to go back, both are brilliant in different ways. I've never found cities like them, (although Cambridge in Boston tries to be similar)

Bullcrap.

http://www.findaproperty.com/displayprop.aspx?edid=00&salerent=0&pid=5830027

You could get a semi-detached 2 bedroom house for that price, but nothing compared to what you can get in the US for 200-250,000 dollars.
 

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My 6 months in london were the most fun I've ever had. One of the best cities in the world. Plus, you can get extremely cheap airfare to anywhere in Europe. I'd take 35k in London over $70k almost anywhere in America.

Meh, different strokes for different folks I guess. I found london to be underwhelming. yeah, there were cool places to visit all very close together, but I don't think I would ever want to setup permanent residence there.
 

Texashiker

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Either my sarcasm meter is broken or you have absolutely no concept of America.

I have been working in America since 1984, so I think I have seen a few things.

One guy I worked with, he had been feeling bad for several weeks. He kept saying he felt like the had the flu. The other employees finally talked him into taking day off and go to the doctor - he had pancreatic cancer and died 2 weeks later.

It might have just been the environments that I have worked in, but I think its a good example of Americans attitude on work.

One job I worked at, an employee asked for a day off to take care of some business - register his car at the court house, get his car inspected,,,, stuff that needed to be done during the week. When he asked for a day off, he was fired - and this guy had been an outstanding employee.

Looking for another job? Dont let the boss hear, you will be fired on the spot. Labor laws? Whats that.

One job I interviewed for, they did not want to hire single parents because they had to take off too much for their kids.
 

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Lifer
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CCTV has hardly resulted in lower crime rates. England is one of the most watched nations on earth with the same crime rates as the US.

The addition of CCTV cameras in my area made a huge impact.

120 pounds a year per TV in the house, just to throw up an antenna and get public TV is crazy. And that is a flat rate on top of things like cable or satellite. (well, the rate may be higher.) Want Internet television? Guess what, you STILL have to (or are supposed to) pay the 120 pounds, per computer.

It's £145 per address, meaning I pay one fee per year for my entire house, laptops and TV's and all, for that I get, Doctor Who, Top Gear etc etc...

Yeah, sounds wonderful. I enjoy my free and cheap TV.

And I enjoy my free and cheap healthcare, given the choice between paying for TV and paying for healthcare...

Have you lived in america for 2 years? No? Sorry, then you have no leg to stand on. I have lived in england for 2 years. I have a pretty good
perspective on the difference between the US and england.

I spent three months over there, I do alright with the differences

BTW, most people from england (like 99% that I ran into) that had visited the US LOVE it. The only people I saw that absolutely hated the US were those that had never been here.

I loved america, so count me as one of them

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Fingolfin269

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I just spent a couple of weeks in England and was absolutely shocked by how much it cost to eat/drink there. Granted this is only one side of cost of living as I have no idea how much it actually costs to own a home, pay utilities, etc. but based on my limited time there I just assumed that everyone made a lot of money.

Apparently I was wrong.
 

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Lifer
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Or in Ameica I can spend half that and get a much nicer house.

I can't tell if all the responses in this thread are jokes or not.
Free healthcare in England? Are you serious. That's what the insanely high taxes pay for. Just because you aren't paying for your healthcare directly out of your pocket when you are in the doctors office, you are paying for it everytime you purchase something. That $8 a gallon gas you have, is more than 50% tax. $8 pints of lager. VAT ect is all tax to pay for the social engineering.

It still works out cheaper, look it up. I do not pay 50% tax, It's £1 a pint at my local.

Bullcrap.

http://www.findaproperty.com/displayprop.aspx?edid=00&salerent=0&pid=5830027

You could get a semi-detached 2 bedroom house for that price, but nothing compared to what you can get in the US for 200-250,000 dollars.

You can get detached houses for that price, Mine was...

In any event it's obviously more expensive here, it's a smaller country.
 

preslove

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Meh, different strokes for different folks I guess. I found london to be underwhelming. yeah, there were cool places to visit all very close together, but I don't think I would ever want to setup permanent residence there.

I bet you're a pretty boring person. I can't imagine being underwhelmed by London. Life in a city like that is what you make of it.
 

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Wait, people pay for a "TV licence" to stick an antenna up and receive OTA television?

Why would you not just hide the antenna and not pay? There is zero way they could ever find out.
 

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Lifer
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I bet you're a pretty boring person. I can't imagine being underwhelmed by London. Life in a city like that is what you make of it.

I don't think anyone can not like London, there is something there for everyone, depending on where you are you can do what you like.
 

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Lifer
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Wait, people pay for a "TV licence" to stick an antenna up and receive OTA television?

Why would you not just hide the antenna and not pay? There is zero way they could ever find out.

If your household has no TV licence they will check you have no TV.

On a side note paying for a TV Licence is a blessing in disguise, BBC No adverts!