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sigurros81

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This might come as a surprise to you, but some people actually behave differently in competitive environments than they do in other non-competitive environments, to call someone an anti-social twat because of a serious attitude towards competition is a massive assumption.

And we know that assumption makes an ass out of you. Objectively speaking, it seems to me that people who complain about trash-talking in video games are folks that got trolled a bit too hard and they're now butthurt about it.

There are only two ways to rise above trash talking:

1. You play better than them
2. You ignore the trash talking
 

Maximilian

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Talking smack is a mini-game inside another game. Just increasing enjoyment. :D

However it is stupid in competitive games. I tired dota 2 on a whim last weekend and people kept crying and telling me to just leave game cause i was not helping/noob/etc. So i just tried to find ways for my "team" to not win:D That was more fun than actually winning in that case.

Oh man league of legends is similar... i mute every single ally in that game at the start now. In other games i couldn't give a toss but in LoL when i actually try to help my lane partner (rare now) and get told "fucking amumu, noob prick" or something because i couldn't stop 2 enemys and the tower from killing him when he dove in it kind of makes me want to troll him the rest of the game and ofc we lose.

Now with /ignore ally when this shit happens i dont see anything, i can tell my lane partner is pissed sometimes when they leave my lane entirely to go to the bottom one :D 1v1v3
 

Martimus

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In Eve, which is the only competitive MP game I have played in years, I found that those who trash talked in local were easy targets. I would be able to destroy them and any fleet they had in backup nearly 100% of the time (it probably was 100% since I can't remember ever losing). I just found that those who liked to trash talk just weren't very good at the game. Of course this is also true about anything in life: if you feel the need to tell others how good you are at something, chances are that you aren't very good. If you were actually any good, it would be self evident and everyone would know.
 

sigurros81

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In Eve, which is the only competitive MP game I have played in years, I found that those who trash talked in local were easy targets. I would be able to destroy them and any fleet they had in backup nearly 100% of the time (it probably was 100% since I can't remember ever losing). I just found that those who liked to trash talk just weren't very good at the game. Of course this is also true about anything in life: if you feel the need to tell others how good you are at something, chances are that you aren't very good. If you were actually any good, it would be self evident and everyone would know.

Those who sucks at a game and trash talks as well are just dumbasses.
 

PrincessFrosty

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And we know that assumption makes an ass out of you. Objectively speaking, it seems to me that people who complain about trash-talking in video games are folks that got trolled a bit too hard and they're now butthurt about it.

There are only two ways to rise above trash talking:

1. You play better than them
2. You ignore the trash talking

Most games offer the tools to block out idiots, the people being most vocal about this kind of thing tend to be the people who jump at the opportunity to act like a drama queen rather than find a practical solution to the issue.

I've stopped trying to explain to these sort of whiners that mute exists, half the time they don't care or aren't capable of understanding, so instead I just mute them and leave them to suffer, I refuse to contribute to the problem by adding to the pool of whiners :)
 

imaheadcase

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Very few competitive environments offer the anonymity that online gaming offers.

It's that barrier of protection that allows them to act like that.


Nope, you are wrong. People act like that all over outside of gaming.
 

crownjules

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Nope, you are wrong. People act like that all over outside of gaming.

No they don't. I was a three sport athlete in high school and have played in rec leagues for two sports since college. You do not get nearly the same amount of trash talking as you do in your typical Internet video game. Nor is it something that is held in good standing when it does happen. We've all heard of the term good sportsmanship. But with the blanket of security the Internet provides by distancing ourselves from physical contact, most people think that gives them the ability to turn into a complete asshole.
 

JackBurton

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Very few competitive environments offer the anonymity that online gaming offers.

It's that barrier of protection that allows them to act like that.

False. I talked smack all day long at the arcades. Like others have said, it's the competitive nature. I actually think it makes the other player a better player. They have an incentive to play better so they can turn the tables and talk smack when they win. Losing sucks, but turning the tables around and winning makes it all worth it when you can trash talk a trash talker. I actually talk smack when I play chess. I even go as far as pretending to not know the name of the pieces. For instance, when I move my knight, I'll say, "I'm going to move this little horsey guy right here. Now what are you going to do?! Oh what, that's the end of the game?" :)
 

wuliheron

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The last survey I saw indicated 1/3 of gamers refused to play online games because of all the trash talk. Some people like listening to Rush Limbaugh, watching professional wrestling, and having the Baptist preacher yell at them and accuse them of being sinners, and others don't. No accounting for taste.
 

CountZero

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There are lots of reasons people are like that.

There are the people that take every competition way too seriously. Like when you get a 2v2 or 3v3 basketball game going and they start flipping out when things don't go well even though its just friends. Or the guy that you only played Risk with once because they lost it when you invaded them.

There are the immature players. It used to be just teenagers but now we have the whole "bro" mentality polluting the waters. They are just like that because they can be.

There are the sad players. This is the best thing they can do in their life and woe unto you that mess it up (noob on their team) or if you are pwned by them.

The morons out there are the reason not letting people host servers is such a bad thing. It was great to find a handful of servers that played at about your level with about your competitiveness but now it is all thrown together. Separating various types of pub servers and clan servers was awesome these days it is all a crap shoot, maybe you get a good mix of people or maybe you don't.
 

T_Yamamoto

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I usually the troll the hell out of people. No one ever trashtalks me since I don't have a mic to chat with. If we are down by quite a bit. Tentions run high but I'm laughing as I get shot across map in dust 2 by a deagle or a m249spammer
 

sigurros81

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There are lots of reasons people are like that.

There are the people that take every competition way too seriously. Like when you get a 2v2 or 3v3 basketball game going and they start flipping out when things don't go well even though its just friends. Or the guy that you only played Risk with once because they lost it when you invaded them.

There are the immature players. It used to be just teenagers but now we have the whole "bro" mentality polluting the waters. They are just like that because they can be.

There are the sad players. This is the best thing they can do in their life and woe unto you that mess it up (noob on their team) or if you are pwned by them.

The morons out there are the reason not letting people host servers is such a bad thing. It was great to find a handful of servers that played at about your level with about your competitiveness but now it is all thrown together. Separating various types of pub servers and clan servers was awesome these days it is all a crap shoot, maybe you get a good mix of people or maybe you don't.

You list all the shitty reasons for trash-talking. As you mentioned, there are a lot of reasons why people trash talk, yet you failed to mention one--that it's for the sake of competitiveness, just fun and games.

When I knife someone in Battlefield 3, I teabag their corpse, and I yell in chat "How do my salty balls taste!?". People either get offended by that, or they say something to the like of "well played". When I get killed by the same person, he teabags me in retribution, and I'll say something like "haha, you got me back good".

I've actually made friends from the trash talking in online games. All these people who are crying about trash talking obviously are shitty players themselves and can't handle a little heat from online gaming. I can honestly say I've never been offended by people shit talking me, because I know it's just in the context of a video game.
 

Stringjam

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Don't buy into that whole "real men" garbage.

I know plenty of competitive guys who talk that big man shit and they're nothing more than a 12-year-old intellect in a 30-year-old body.

Being a real man means taking care of your family and the people you love, and doesn't have anything to do with ANY kind of competition.
 

Red Storm

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Don't buy into that whole "real men" garbage.

I know plenty of competitive guys who talk that big man shit and they're nothing more than a 12-year-old intellect in a 30-year-old body.

Being a real man means taking care of your family and the people you love, and doesn't have anything to do with ANY kind of competition.

I take care of my family better than you. :colbert:










:p
 

sigurros81

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Don't buy into that whole "real men" garbage.

I know plenty of competitive guys who talk that big man shit and they're nothing more than a 12-year-old intellect in a 30-year-old body.

Being a real man means taking care of your family and the people you love, and doesn't have anything to do with ANY kind of competition.

What the hell does taking care of your family has anything to do with talking shit in video games. Sounds like someone got bullied too much in online video games that he has to throw in a random tangent about taking care of his family.
 

Veliko

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False. I talked smack all day long at the arcades. Like others have said, it's the competitive nature. I actually think it makes the other player a better player. They have an incentive to play better so they can turn the tables and talk smack when they win. Losing sucks, but turning the tables around and winning makes it all worth it when you can trash talk a trash talker. I actually talk smack when I play chess. I even go as far as pretending to not know the name of the pieces. For instance, when I move my knight, I'll say, "I'm going to move this little horsey guy right here. Now what are you going to do?! Oh what, that's the end of the game?" :)

You will die alone.
 

CountZero

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You list all the shitty reasons for trash-talking. As you mentioned, there are a lot of reasons why people trash talk, yet you failed to mention one--that it's for the sake of competitiveness, just fun and games.

When I knife someone in Battlefield 3, I teabag their corpse, and I yell in chat "How do my salty balls taste!?". People either get offended by that, or they say something to the like of "well played". When I get killed by the same person, he teabags me in retribution, and I'll say something like "haha, you got me back good".

I've actually made friends from the trash talking in online games. All these people who are crying about trash talking obviously are shitty players themselves and can't handle a little heat from online gaming. I can honestly say I've never been offended by people shit talking me, because I know it's just in the context of a video game.

IMO that falls under the "bro"/immature mentality.

I do that kind of jokey trash talking with my friends but not with strangers. Doing that with strangers is being a d-bag. Of course the follow on excuse for d-bag behavior is always that if people don't like it it is their problem, never is it the realization that you are playing with strangers and not everyone wants to deal with that.
 

JamesV

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I blame consoles. I know it sounds elitist, but imo some people just should not be allowed to play video games (especially anyone under 18 playing M rated games, regardless if their parents allow it or not).

I remember competing in Tribes back around 2000, and on the ladder forums before a match, we'd be talking shit back and forth, but never 'mean' - more for fun.

Then when I got a 360... wtf happened. If I get into a game of GTA or BC2 or Bioshock 2 (or any game), there is always some little retard going on about someone's mother, or 'you suck', or any number of ridiculous and annoying trash talking.

Now people expect it, and we all lose.
 

happysmiles

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Games make us blokes feel alive, definitely goes back to the hunter/gather thing and we get so focused on it that when we fail or someone on our team lets us down we blow up.

simple.
just ignore or make fun of them.
 

sigurros81

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IMO that falls under the "bro"/immature mentality.

I do that kind of jokey trash talking with my friends but not with strangers. Doing that with strangers is being a d-bag. Of course the follow on excuse for d-bag behavior is always that if people don't like it it is their problem, never is it the realization that you are playing with strangers and not everyone wants to deal with that.

Yeah, thanks captain obvious, of course the virtual simulation of dipping my balls into someone's face is an act of immaturity. Trash talking itself is an act of immaturity, duh. It's what makes it fun and irreverent. It doesn't matter how old you are or what station in life you are at, when you play an online game with strangers, everyone are on equal footing until one start sucking more than others. Stop treating multiplayer games like actual real world interaction, BECAUSE IT"S NOT.

Tell you what, you're welcome to be a classy gentleman all you like in a video games, me on the other hand will not hesitate to dip my hairy virtual balls into your mouth repeatedly whenever I kill you.
 
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Gordon Freemen

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They spend there life savings or worse borrow CREDIT on some new tech and then something comes out next month or year that wipes the floor with there life savings or debt how would you feel LOL.
 

cronos

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I've actually made friends from the trash talking in online games. All these people who are crying about trash talking obviously are shitty players themselves and can't handle a little heat from online gaming. I can honestly say I've never been offended by people shit talking me, because I know it's just in the context of a video game.

LOL that's not what happened when I kicked your ass several times. I got in your head and kept coming at you until you logged (possibly crying to mommy, or posted here when you can pretend how much of a trash talker you are). LMAO.

You were talking like you're such a bad ass but in reality you're: 1. a horrible player, and 2. even whinier than everyone else. Just admit it :D