Why are Joe Biden's gaffs an issue with the right?

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If dumb statements were a concern for republicans, then we wouldn't have Trump. In fact, maybe he just say the most stupid statements he can, as emphatically as he can, win those swing States

People (and specifically Americans) are incredibly stupid.

Making a gaff (and potentially apologizing for it) and confidently making a stupid statement are 2 very different things.
 

ch33zw1z

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People (and specifically Americans) are incredibly stupid.

Making a gaff (and potentially apologizing for it) and confidently making a stupid statement are 2 very different things.

Yup, he should turn his gaffs into stupid statements. Trump voters don't care about stupid statements, they care about confidence. Who cares if you're lying, or verbally abusive, as long as youre confident about.
 

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Since they support Trump clearly Biden would need to talk non-stop for almost 5 years to come close to him. Yes Biden is gaffe prone compared to a real President like Obama but are gaffs really an issue??

Gaffes are endless fodder for opposition parties. Obama wasnt immune to them either.
 

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Uhmmm, if you’re referring to Trump the amount of gaffes he makes like this are several orders of magnitude more than Biden and the media barely mentions it. Forget gaffes, Trump shows significant signs of current and accelerating dementia and at times is totally incoherent yet for some reason nobody wants to discuss it. Even worse is you can see clear decline from earlier in his life.

That’s why it’s hypocritical for conservatives to care about cognitive decline for Biden. Any worry an objective person would have about Biden should be ten times higher for Trump. Trump’s decline is downright scary.

No one comes close to Trump iin terms of mental illness and to compare Bush or Biden to Trump leaves the latter in the dumpter. With that said I have concerns about Biden as four years to him is like forty to the youngest candidates. I'll vote for him over the worst President, Trump but mental decline is a fact of age. Again those concerns are potential problems not realities of Trump's long standing unfitness.

Biden would likely resign before decending to brain salad Trumpian levels so a younger but competent VP would be a winning ticket I think especially if that person was more in tune with the not-dying-in-20 years demographic.
 

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"George Bush doesn't care about black people."

I think GWB gaffs were pretty routine on The Daily Show back then. I remember them being plastered all over. Of course, he kept giving them fresh material. That guy can see a shoe flying at him from a mile away, though.

Which President or VP talked about nuking hurricane or buying a nation from another that didn't own it? At least Truman could have legally done that but it hasn't been the case for quite some time. But those aren't gaffes, they are "Guam may tip" or Martians involved in a pedo ring with NASA level debaucles.
 

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So you're ok with Biden's senile blunders. One could also look at it this way... Those on the left rail against Trump and his gaffs but are perfectly willing to give creepy old Joe a pass, rather than setting an example of a higher standard.



Haha, it's all part of the #bothsides rationale. Holding others to a standard one cannot meet themselves makes good politics in conservative america
 

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So you're ok with Biden's senile blunders. One could also look at it this way... Those on the left rail against Trump and his gaffs but are perfectly willing to give creepy old Joe a pass, rather than setting an example of a higher standard.

It's not what I said there, bro. I dont particularly care for Joe. Setting a higher example has certainly shown to be met with ridicule and accusations of being intellectual elitist libtards. It's all about those liberal tears

But good job proving my point and fall back to #bothsides
 

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Why does it matter whether the right has an "issue" with Biden's gaffes? He's running for the Dem nomination so it's their opinion that matters. And if he gets the nomination the gaffes will simply be one vector of many that would be taken to oppose Joe. Presuming Trump doesn't drop dead of natural causes before the election and is the GOP nominee then having a "who makes the most gaffes" contest doesn't favor Trump at all.
 

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Cult 45 pointing out Biden's "gaffes" is like OJ being apoplectic over people that cut the tags off of mattresses.
 

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Those on the left rail against Trump and his gaffs but are perfectly willing to give creepy old Joe a pass,

Fewer than 1/3 of the most hardcore Democrats (those who follow primary) support senile, creepy Joe. So I wouldn't say the "left are giving him a pass". In fact the people supporting him appears to be the more right-ward (richer) Dems, those who support his social agenda, but don't want to pay a dime more in taxes for policies of Warren/Sanders. They don't care what he says, as long as they don't have to pay more for their summer house in the Hamptons he could do whatever he wants.
 

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Republicans have taken us to an all time low in power-seeking depravity.

Not only will they spin one lie after another to confuse the public and troll for votes among the ill-informed and just plain stupid, they will turn one mistake or gaffe of an opposition leader into a major political talking point.

For instance, there's Obama's "red line in the sand" about Syria -- one of Obama's less well-calculated remarks. The other one was "you can keep your doctor". For the latter, just about everyone I know has been able to keep their doctor, while ACA beneficiaries can be assigned physicians depending on the plan of their subscription under the ACA. Oddly, an indigent family member covered by the ACA has had some of the best doctors in the region, even if he had nothing to do in choosing them. But to Republicans, choice is the only criterion of interest, even if you make bad choices.

Trump is so arrogant that he thinks he needs no preparation for public communications. We also see him laboring in his deliveries when there has been enough preparation allowing use of a teleprompter. I've had to conclude that he has a reading disability, and this is supported by the fact that he will absolutely refuse to read daily intelligence briefings or anything else.

The Base has always wanted to eat their cake and have it too. When it comes to the opposition, no standard of performance below Jesus walking on water is sufficient. But when it comes to their own, anything is dismissed as trivial.

I saw Biden give remarks to the press the other day in Michigan, and he was at the top of his game. This I would not have suspected possible. Poorer debate performances should be consistent with even worse exchanges with the press, but this apparently was not the case.
 

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It's funny that Progressheviks call Trump senile and needed to be 25th'ed right out of office, but when the Dems aren't claiming fake heritages, making racists statements, forgetting where they are, or promising everything for free, they are a great bunch.
 
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It's funny that Progressheviks call Trump senile and needed to be 25th'ed right out of office, but when the Dems aren't claiming fake heritages, making racists statements, forgetting where they are, or promising everything for free, they are a great bunch.

Umm tax cut, record deficits are happening right now.
 

BonzaiDuck

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YOU SEE?!! BrandonBull proves my point! Warren's remark about her native-American roots becomes a major waste of time in the political exchange of ideas.
 

kage69

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Ol Louie Gohmert works better I think, certainly the temperament is closer.

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kage69

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It's funny that Progressheviks call Trump senile and needed to be 25th'ed right out of office, but when the Dems aren't claiming fake heritages, making racists statements, forgetting where they are, or promising everything for free, they are a great bunch.

People from across the political spectrum call Trump senile, mentally ill and on a rapid cognitive decline because he acts like he is.

Choosing to ignore that means you forfeit being taken seriously regarding smaller potatoes, also means you're the comrade jerking away on Russia, with love.

Time to find another talking point Bullshit.
 
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People from across the political spectrum call Trump senile, mentally ill and on a rapid cognitive decline because he acts like he is.

Choosing to ignore that means you forfeit being taken seriously regarding smaller potatoes, also means you're the comrade jerking away on Russia, with love.

Time to find another talking point Bullshit.

Russia Russia Russia, the 80s called and want their policy back! lol
Romney was right and Mr.Obama did not listen.
 

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People from across the political spectrum call Trump senile, mentally ill and on a rapid cognitive decline because he acts like he is.

Choosing to ignore that means you forfeit being taken seriously regarding smaller potatoes, also means you're the comrade jerking away on Russia, with love.

Time to find another talking point Bullshit.
People across the political spectrum call Democrats racists and anti-Semites, but that doesn't make it so. The Democrats have a long and beautiful history of supporting Russia and China. You can call people comrade all you want, but that is a mirror you are projecting into.

So your glorious plan is to replace a racist, senile, money spending old timer is with another one. I guess since that replacement would be a Democrat, it makes things ok.
 

kage69

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Russia Russia Russia, the 80s called and want their policy back! lol
Romney was right and Mr.Obama did not listen.

Why go back to the 80s? Handjob in Helsinki was practically yesterday comrade, since then sanctions have been rolled back. I'm sure some of the 272 Russian contacts of the Trump campaign were probably born in the 80s, if that makes you feel any better.

President Obama listened fine (though I appreciate the RT talking point), he even warned Il Douche about you guys. He was assuming Trump wasn't a traitor, just a racist clown with horrible luck in finance.
 
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kage69

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People across the political spectrum call Democrats racists and anti-Semites, but that doesn't make it so. The Democrats have a long and beautiful history of supporting Russia and China. You can call people comrade all you want, but that is a mirror you are projecting into.

So your glorious plan is to replace a racist, senile, money spending old timer is with another one. I guess since that replacement would be a Democrat, it makes things ok.

Your comparisons are shit as usual, and I'm not a Democrat. Fevered Dem dreams and histrionics don't change the fact you are on the Russian candidate's side, the guy who keeps putting Putin's interests ahead of America's interests. No amount of weak ranting changes that.

Also, you dipshits can preach to others about projection when Harvery Weinstein is hosting Consent Awareness seminars.
 
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