Why are Joe Biden's gaffs an issue with the right?

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brandonbull

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Ignore the Right's criticisms of Biden, but recognize that these "gaffes" are a serious issue. He is having serious memory and cognitive issues that will not improve with time. Trump will run circles around Biden, it will be BS and incoherent, but Biden will have difficulty countering it.
Biden will easily counter Trump with the truth and not facts.
 

VRAMdemon

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It seems his campaign team has decided to float the idea of limiting his appearances because of his increasing propensity to stick his foot in his mouth..

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2019/08/joe-biden-2020-allies-float-anti-gaffe-strategy-talking-less

Plus...Invoking the possibility of Obama’s assassination when white-supremacist violence is rising seems reckless, at the very least. Even if there was a more salient point, I can’t understand why any candidate, let alone Obama’s own vice president, would say this. I’m not outraged that Biden hypothesized about Obama being killed, but it is pretty dumb.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/23/us/politics/joe-biden-obama.html

And this:

Biden - "I think of where we are at the moment. You know, none of you men are old — women are old enough, but a couple of you guys are old enough to remember. I graduated in 1968."

Telling women they're old by looking at them while the men are not. Even if the age differences were very stark, I'm not seeing much good in saying this. 1968 was a real bad time, Joe. We get it

He tangles himself into knots a lot when he talks. He doesn't speak with authority. He sounds confused. His answers to the media pool often have the longest transcripts. He should be able to answer in half as many words since that's what you have to do on the debate stage. There's no way people are going to ignore his senior moments in front of a mic forever. People begin to notice these things.

Having said that, Biden will surely get my vote over Trump if he's the nominee. I'm not "trashing" Biden so much as pointing out that he's not necessarily as "electable" as people say he is. Moreover, let's face it: we all remember what happened a few years ago when the Democratic party coronated the front-runner.
 
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Dulanic

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It's simple. They are a problem because it works with his base, they will believe anything they say. As for others not falling for it, who cares? They already arent going to vote for them. It's the same reason they use the words they use for racism... plausible deniability for their base, and who cares what the rest think because agaijn they won't vote for him. Use a logo from a white sepremist group? It wasn't him who picked it, it was someone else and it slipped through the cracks.....

Sure a lot of us don't fall for it, but who cares, we arent his base and they do fall for it and that's what matters.
 

DrunkenSano

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Why are we comparing Biden to Trump or anyone to Trump for that matter? We all know Trump is bottom of the barrel sewer scum and any other candidate would be a much better option to run this country than him. Setting Trump as the standard is foolish as everyone would just be stepping over that standard. We should be comparing Biden to all the other Democratic candidates to ensure we have the very best candidate out there pushing the right policies and agendas for the future of this country.
 
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Jhhnn

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Unless you have not been on planet Earth since the early 1900's, everybody knows how meddlesome the Russians are. The Russians thought Clinton would win but wanted to have some leverage over her by supplying her with "dirt" on Trump. The Dems have been notoriously soft with Russia since the early 1980's and only act tough on them because their partnership is being exposed.

Nice conspiracy theory. Win or lose, they knew Trump was poison for America.
 

Commodus

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Unless you have not been on planet Earth since the early 1900's, everybody knows how meddlesome the Russians are. The Russians thought Clinton would win but wanted to have some leverage over her by supplying her with "dirt" on Trump. The Dems have been notoriously soft with Russia since the early 1980's and only act tough on them because their partnership is being exposed.

It's perpetually fascinating how disconnected you are from evidence-based reasoning.

The Russians explicitly, repeatedly signalled their preference for Trump; they might have thought his win unlikely, but all evidence shows that they wanted it. At the least, they knew he would be softer than Clinton and would stoke social divisions (many of the Russian Facebook/Twitter meddling attempts were meant to amplify tensions).

And they're not "notoriously soft." There is no "partnership." I just think they didn't understand just how determined Putin was to recreate his ideal version of the Soviet Union. Besides, you really, really can't complain about softness when Trump is bending over backwards at every opportunity trying to please Putin, whether it's dropping funding for the Ukraine military, lifting sanctions or weakening NATO. You want someone who actually stands up to Russia? Don't vote for Trump.
 

Jhhnn

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It's perpetually fascinating how disconnected you are from evidence-based reasoning.

The Russians explicitly, repeatedly signalled their preference for Trump; they might have thought his win unlikely, but all evidence shows that they wanted it. At the least, they knew he would be softer than Clinton and would stoke social divisions (many of the Russian Facebook/Twitter meddling attempts were meant to amplify tensions).

And they're not "notoriously soft." There is no "partnership." I just think they didn't understand just how determined Putin was to recreate his ideal version of the Soviet Union. Besides, you really, really can't complain about softness when Trump is bending over backwards at every opportunity trying to please Putin, whether it's dropping funding for the Ukraine military, lifting sanctions or weakening NATO. You want someone who actually stands up to Russia? Don't vote for Trump.

One of the features of the Big Lie is that people will refuse to accept that it's a lie even when it's thrown in their face. The Helsinki press conference illustrates that perfectly.
 

Jhhnn

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It's perpetually fascinating how disconnected you are from evidence-based reasoning.

The Russians explicitly, repeatedly signalled their preference for Trump; they might have thought his win unlikely, but all evidence shows that they wanted it. At the least, they knew he would be softer than Clinton and would stoke social divisions (many of the Russian Facebook/Twitter meddling attempts were meant to amplify tensions).

And they're not "notoriously soft." There is no "partnership." I just think they didn't understand just how determined Putin was to recreate his ideal version of the Soviet Union. Besides, you really, really can't complain about softness when Trump is bending over backwards at every opportunity trying to please Putin, whether it's dropping funding for the Ukraine military, lifting sanctions or weakening NATO. You want someone who actually stands up to Russia? Don't vote for Trump.

One of the features of the Big Lie is that people will refuse to accept that it's a lie even when it's thrown in their face. The Helsinki press conference illustrates that perfectly.
 

JSt0rm

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They sure don't.

you dont even know how to throw sick burns. You need to establish the name first. like what was it? Libersheveks or some shit. Then you build your burns on top of it. You cant just say "I know you are but what am i?" and expect anyone to think you accomplished anything. You need to put some work in it.
 
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crashtech

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Hmm, why do partisans pick on every little move of their opposition? Gee, I just don't know why they would do such a terrible thing!

:rolleyes:
 

brandonbull

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you dont even know how to throw sick burns. You need to establish the name first. like what was it? Libersheveks or some shit. Then you build your burns on top of it. You cant just say "I know you are but what am i?" and expect anyone to think you accomplished anything. You need to put some work in it.

Using some thing clever and funny in response to you would be like someone from the future traveling back in time and explaining long division to a caveman. Nobody thinks a stupid caveman response is funny because they can't comprehend even the most basic level of concepts. At least you have truth and not facts.
 

JSt0rm

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Using some thing clever and funny in response to you would be like someone from the future traveling back in time and explaining long division to a caveman. Nobody thinks a stupid caveman response is funny because they can't comprehend even the most basic level of concepts. At least you have truth and not facts.

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do something clever. Just once.
 

glenn1

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I covered the same occurrence with a video in post #61 of this thread.

While most people on the left will agree that Trump is either as (if not more) brain-addled than Biden that doesn't mean that it makes sense for the left to ignore Biden's gaffe just because he's a Democratic Candidate....


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My apologies, didn't mean to repost something you already had.
 

blankslate

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My apologies, didn't mean to repost something you already had.

No apologies necessary just reiterating the point.

Someone forgetting something like the name of the president whom they served as Vice President for should be a major warning flag regardless of which party they are from.


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FerrelGeek

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You are so naive. The uber-rich elite live in the investor quadrant of Kiyosoki's income graph, i.e., the vast bulk of their earnings doesn't come from what the IRS classifies as earned income: wages, tips, etc. They'll (dems and reps) make sure that any new tax hikes barely touch them. If you want your fantasy of raping the 1%ers to come true, you'll need a tax code that will carve out a huge chunk of that investment money. Good luck with that, son.

If they weren't willing to give it up for the country & the little guy to some degree or another then they'd be Republicans. They know Dems will raise their taxes.
 

trenchfoot

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So Biden's occasional gaffs makes him such a very dangerous pick that he's much more worse than Trump ever was so we should all vote to reelect Trump next year.

OK. Yeh, you bet'cha. Heh, yeah, hey let's do exactly what Putin wants because he knows what's best for America and he's only trying to help us keep America more powerful than his Russia will ever hope to be.
 

DrunkenSano

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So Biden's occasional gaffs makes him such a very dangerous pick that he's much more worse than Trump ever was so we should all vote to reelect Trump next year.

OK. Yeh, you bet'cha. Heh, yeah, hey let's do exactly what Putin wants because he knows what's best for America and he's only trying to help us keep America more powerful than his Russia will ever hope to be.

How does people talking about Biden's gaffs result in Trump being re-elected? Everyone should be coming together to vote for whoever the Democratic presidential candidate it, whether it is Biden, Booker, Sanders, Warren, etc. Right now, people are trying to determine who the best Democratic representative is and Biden's gaffs does contribute to that decision.
 
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dank69

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I, for one, have been blindsided by Biden's propensity for appearing stupid on camera. It isn't like he has a long history of this type of behavior.
 

Jhhnn

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You are so naive. The uber-rich elite live in the investor quadrant of Kiyosoki's income graph, i.e., the vast bulk of their earnings doesn't come from what the IRS classifies as earned income: wages, tips, etc. They'll (dems and reps) make sure that any new tax hikes barely touch them. If you want your fantasy of raping the 1%ers to come true, you'll need a tax code that will carve out a huge chunk of that investment money. Good luck with that, son.

Gawd. Trump & the GOP gave the investor class a big fat tax cut while Dems screamed bloody murder & you both sides the shit out of it.

And if we're gonna have some old guy who's slipping as President we can at least have one who's at least a half-assed decent human being, can't we?
 
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Unless you have not been on planet Earth since the early 1900's, everybody knows how meddlesome the Russians are. The Russians thought Clinton would win but wanted to have some leverage over her by supplying her with "dirt" on Trump. The Dems have been notoriously soft with Russia since the early 1980's and only act tough on them because their partnership is being exposed.

What da fuq????

So Russia so wanted a President Hillary they decided to undermine her campaign at any chance and actively support our current President who has YET to say anything negative about Russia.
Seriously what world are you living in that allows you to so confidently say such crazy stuff.