Why are Joe Biden's gaffs an issue with the right?

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bill1024

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Oh Uncle Putin you are so funny
Yeah and Bush looked into my eyes and into my soul and could tell I was an honorable man
Why go back to the 80s? Handjob in Helsinki was practically yesterday comrade, since then sanctions have been rolled back. I'm sure some of the 272 Russian contacts of the Trump campaign were probably born in the 80s, if that makes you feel any better. Russians don't live very long, certainly not spies or journalists.

President Obama listened fine, he even warned Il Douche about you guys. He was assuming Trump wasn't a traitor, just a racist clown with horrible luck in finance.

Good lord, way over your head, sorry. Just google "The 80's called and want their policy back".
"The reset button", all the other things back with Mr.Obama and Mrs.Clinton. They liked Russia.
Guess it all depends who is in office and what side you're on. T
I suppose there really is a reason why they say " Do not discuss religion and politics"
 

Commodus

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Yeah and Bush looked into my eyes and into my soul and could tell I was an honorable man


Good lord, way over your head, sorry. Just google "The 80's called and want their policy back".
"The reset button", all the other things back with Mr.Obama and Mrs.Clinton. They liked Russia.
Guess it all depends who is in office and what side you're on. T
I suppose there really is a reason why they say " Do not discuss religion and politics"

It's really not hard to reconcile changing stances on Russia, you know that, right?

Obama and Secretary of State-era Clinton were softer on Russia than Democrats are now because it wasn't clear just how aggressive and meddlesome Russia was going to be at the time. That and, yes, Obama was perpetually the cautious one who wanted to avoid escalating tensions without completely folding. He should've made clear Russia's election interference attempts before the vote, not after.

Trump, however, isn't just soft on Russia, he practically fawns over it -- for example, warmly sharing gripes with Putin about "fake news" (read: truths they want to suppress). In terms of foreign policy, his default is to pick the option that helps Russia best, such as undermining NATO and downplaying the threat of Russian hacking. Remember, the Russians tried to skew the 2016 election in favor of Trump precisely because they thought he would be softer on Russia than Clinton, not to mention divisive; so far, they appear to have been right.
 

zinfamous

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"George Bush doesn't care about black people."

I think GWB gaffs were pretty routine on The Daily Show back then. I remember them being plastered all over. Of course, he kept giving them fresh material. That guy can see a shoe flying at him from a mile away, though.

lol, that's your best bud Kanye West--and you now think he likes you?

lol, dummy. Look how you constantly get played by useless attention-grabbing celebrities.

dummy.
 

HomerJS

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It's funny that Progressheviks call Trump senile and needed to be 25th'ed right out of office, but when the Dems aren't claiming fake heritages, making racists statements, forgetting where they are, or promising everything for free, they are a great bunch.
I call a guy who is in charge of this countries nukes who asks can we fire one off in the middle of a hurricane to destroy it, top shelf dangerous.

You call that a great President. We just have different standards.
 

ch33zw1z

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I call a guy who is in charge of this countries nukes who asks can we fire one off in the middle of a hurricane to destroy it, top shelf dangerous.

You call that a great President. We just have different standards.

I think Brandon thinks people take him seriously. His posts make me laugh, like when I laugh at an old guy kicking people off his lawn, driving way too slow in the passing lane, or shaking his fist at damn near anything.
 

FerrelGeek

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My comment was meant to be more general, not specifically to you. Sorry about that. My point is that Biden does get a pass by enough on the left and many on the left don't set a higher standard. We all tend to have blind spots toward our favorite side, in other areas of life besides politics. But (not you) the left should drum Joe out ASAP. He's an embarrassment and weakens your position of going after Trump.

It's not what I said there, bro. I dont particularly care for Joe. Setting a higher example has certainly shown to be met with ridicule and accusations of being intellectual elitist libtards. It's all about those liberal tears

But good job proving my point and fall back to #bothsides
 

FerrelGeek

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And those rich dems have a lot to say about policy. Money talks on both sides of the aisle.

Fewer than 1/3 of the most hardcore Democrats (those who follow primary) support senile, creepy Joe. So I wouldn't say the "left are giving him a pass". In fact the people supporting him appears to be the more right-ward (richer) Dems, those who support his social agenda, but don't want to pay a dime more in taxes for policies of Warren/Sanders. They don't care what he says, as long as they don't have to pay more for their summer house in the Hamptons he could do whatever he wants.
 

ch33zw1z

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My comment was meant to be more general, not specifically to you. Sorry about that. My point is that Biden does get a pass by enough on the left and many on the left don't set a higher standard. We all tend to have blind spots toward our favorite side, in other areas of life besides politics. But (not you) the left should drum Joe out ASAP. He's an embarrassment and weakens your position of going after Trump.

Your premise appears to be flawed. The gaffs or complaints about Biden palenin comparison to the Trump wreckage. It's really not even in the same ball park, league, or even game.

I'm not interested in voting for another old white guy. We will she what the future holds. I'm also not interested in continuing to reward the .01% for using the middle class as a piggy bank punching bag while they privatize profits and socialize losses
 

UNCjigga

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There's a story getting traction that former business partners of Biden's brother are claiming he peddled Joe's potential influence to get favorable deals (but those deals never materialized, and no indication Joe was in cahoots with his bro, who tends to pull this shit.) Hilarious to see the right's hypocrisy on display here...I'll let this speak for itself!

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ch33zw1z

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^^ Standard projection. Just like the GOP's complaints about Obama were literally just them giving us a glimpse of their playbook.

and LoL at the website name, I feel more intelligenter already.
 

blankslate

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Biden's gaffes should be an issue with the left as well...

If Bernie was making gaffes on the level that Biden is MSNBC hosts would be calling for him to drop out but Biden is just personable because of the gaffes.


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theeedude

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Same reason Hillary Clinton's health or emails were an issue with them.
I am not a fan of Biden in primaries because he is against packing the courts, of course if he is the nominee, I am voting for him over Trump anyways.
 

sportage

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We can talk about Joe Biden's gaffs all we want to but that still doesn't justify the fact we currently have a president who is INSANE!
So America, do you want gaffs, or INSANE?
Trump claimed his wife met Kim Jong and the Whitehouse released a statement that she did not meet Kim Jong.
And no one cares about THAT LIE.
Totally INSANE!
 

blankslate

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We can talk about Joe Biden's gaffs all we want to but that still doesn't justify the fact we currently have a president who is INSANE!
So America, do you want gaffs, or INSANE?
Trump claimed his wife met Kim Jong and the Whitehouse released a statement that she did not meet Kim Jong.
And no one cares about THAT LIE.
Totally INSANE!

I want a candidate who isn't laying down gaffes and tripping over his tongue that will beat Trump. It's not one or the other.


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Jhhnn

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And those rich dems have a lot to say about policy. Money talks on both sides of the aisle.

If they weren't willing to give it up for the country & the little guy to some degree or another then they'd be Republicans. They know Dems will raise their taxes.
 

Paladin3

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If they weren't willing to give it up for the country & the little guy to some degree or another then they'd be Republicans. They know Dems will raise their taxes.
I've given up that there will ever be a fair tax plan that will tax corporations their fair share. They will always have the money for lobbyists and accountants to take advantage of any tax system in place.
 

soundforbjt

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You can tell Fox News is worried about Biden, they're talking him down on every show. It's funny to watch their faux concern and never mention Trump's lies and gaffs.
 

sandorski

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Ignore the Right's criticisms of Biden, but recognize that these "gaffes" are a serious issue. He is having serious memory and cognitive issues that will not improve with time. Trump will run circles around Biden, it will be BS and incoherent, but Biden will have difficulty countering it.
 

soundforbjt

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Ignore the Right's criticisms of Biden, but recognize that these "gaffes" are a serious issue. He is having serious memory and cognitive issues that will not improve with time. Trump will run circles around Biden, it will be BS and incoherent, but Biden will have difficulty countering it.
Trump run...? I saw video a couple of weeks ago of Biden actually jogging in a crowd. Trump couldn't do that. So, if he's the nominee he won't get your vote? If Biden's having mental issues, Trump should be in a straight jacket in an institution.
 

sandorski

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Trump run...? I saw video a couple of weeks ago of Biden actually jogging in a crowd. Trump couldn't do that. So, if he's the nominee he won't get your vote? If Biden's having mental issues, Trump should be in a straight jacket in an institution.

All moot. Biden is a poor choice.
 
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BoomerD

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I don't mind his gaffs...unless you're doing catch and release, a gaff can be a good way to land a bigger fish...but his gaffes irritate the hell out of me. Not that I see them as intentional lies, but rather that they make him look stupid...and we already have the King of Stupid in the White House.
 

brandonbull

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It's really not hard to reconcile changing stances on Russia, you know that, right?

Obama and Secretary of State-era Clinton were softer on Russia than Democrats are now because it wasn't clear just how aggressive and meddlesome Russia was going to be at the time. That and, yes, Obama was perpetually the cautious one who wanted to avoid escalating tensions without completely folding. He should've made clear Russia's election interference attempts before the vote, not after.

Trump, however, isn't just soft on Russia, he practically fawns over it -- for example, warmly sharing gripes with Putin about "fake news" (read: truths they want to suppress). In terms of foreign policy, his default is to pick the option that helps Russia best, such as undermining NATO and downplaying the threat of Russian hacking. Remember, the Russians tried to skew the 2016 election in favor of Trump precisely because they thought he would be softer on Russia than Clinton, not to mention divisive; so far, they appear to have been right.
Unless you have not been on planet Earth since the early 1900's, everybody knows how meddlesome the Russians are. The Russians thought Clinton would win but wanted to have some leverage over her by supplying her with "dirt" on Trump. The Dems have been notoriously soft with Russia since the early 1980's and only act tough on them because their partnership is being exposed.