Why are conservative evangelicals allowed to lie so much?

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JD50

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Originally posted by: sandorski
Originally posted by: JD50
Originally posted by: sandorski
Not Conservatives, apparently.

Yea, we believe in free speech.

hmm, that's a pile of Fail. Essentially you're ok with being Lied to because of Free Speech. :confused:

You're having a rough day apparently. I'll try to make this as simple as possible. I'm not going to stop someone from lying because I believe in free speech. Now can you answer my question? Who, exactly, is going to stop "conservatives" (or liberals, or anyone else...) from lying?
 

sandorski

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Oct 10, 1999
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Originally posted by: JD50
Originally posted by: sandorski
Originally posted by: JD50
Originally posted by: sandorski
Not Conservatives, apparently.

Yea, we believe in free speech.

hmm, that's a pile of Fail. Essentially you're ok with being Lied to because of Free Speech. :confused:

You're having a rough day apparently. I'll try to make this as simple as possible. I'm not going to stop someone from lying because I believe in free speech. Now can you answer my question? Who, exactly, is going to stop "conservatives" (or liberals, or anyone else...) from lying?

Already explained. You expose it, repeat as necessary.
 

JD50

Lifer
Sep 4, 2005
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Originally posted by: sandorski
Originally posted by: JD50
Originally posted by: sandorski
Originally posted by: JD50
Originally posted by: sandorski
Not Conservatives, apparently.

Yea, we believe in free speech.

hmm, that's a pile of Fail. Essentially you're ok with being Lied to because of Free Speech. :confused:

You're having a rough day apparently. I'll try to make this as simple as possible. I'm not going to stop someone from lying because I believe in free speech. Now can you answer my question? Who, exactly, is going to stop "conservatives" (or liberals, or anyone else...) from lying?

Already explained. You expose it, repeat as necessary.

Exposing something doesn't stop it. Who, exactly, is going to STOP "conservatives" from lying?
 

sandorski

No Lifer
Oct 10, 1999
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Originally posted by: JD50
Originally posted by: sandorski
Originally posted by: JD50
Originally posted by: sandorski
Originally posted by: JD50
Originally posted by: sandorski
Not Conservatives, apparently.

Yea, we believe in free speech.

hmm, that's a pile of Fail. Essentially you're ok with being Lied to because of Free Speech. :confused:

You're having a rough day apparently. I'll try to make this as simple as possible. I'm not going to stop someone from lying because I believe in free speech. Now can you answer my question? Who, exactly, is going to stop "conservatives" (or liberals, or anyone else...) from lying?

Already explained. You expose it, repeat as necessary.

Exposing something doesn't stop it. Who, exactly, is going to STOP "conservatives" from lying?

Good god your dense. I seriously doubt you're the Defeatist schmuck you're posting as in this thread. Go ahead and troll on....
 

sactoking

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Originally posted by: sandorski


We do, but you seem to have troubles with it. What does "allowed" have to do with the Constitution? I suspect your Parents didn't "Allow" certain things. Voters often don't "Allow" certain things/people from being approved. Sometimes people are not "allowed" to carry on certain things, by exposing what they are doing or have done.

In short, your bringing the Constitution into this had nothing to do with the Topic.

I brought up the Constitution. I brought it up because the topic specifically said 'allow'. The most relevant definition of allow in this context is "to permit something to happen or to exist". The topic was WHY do we [permit] conservative evangelicals to lie so much. The answer is we [permit] it because it is their RIGHT to lie. To not [permit] it, we would have to stop them by law, which is unconstitutional, or by force, which is just illegal.
 

cubby1223

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Originally posted by: Phokus
Why are conservative evangelicals allowed to lie so much?

Bigger question: Why is Phokus allowed to post so much?

Don't believe everything the Daily Kos reports on.
 

JD50

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Originally posted by: sandorski
Originally posted by: JD50
Originally posted by: sandorski
Originally posted by: JD50
Originally posted by: sandorski
Originally posted by: JD50
Originally posted by: sandorski
Not Conservatives, apparently.

Yea, we believe in free speech.

hmm, that's a pile of Fail. Essentially you're ok with being Lied to because of Free Speech. :confused:

You're having a rough day apparently. I'll try to make this as simple as possible. I'm not going to stop someone from lying because I believe in free speech. Now can you answer my question? Who, exactly, is going to stop "conservatives" (or liberals, or anyone else...) from lying?

Already explained. You expose it, repeat as necessary.

Exposing something doesn't stop it. Who, exactly, is going to STOP "conservatives" from lying?

Good god your dense. I seriously doubt you're the Defeatist schmuck you're posting as in this thread. Go ahead and troll on....

Ok, one last time. The topic of this thread is "Why are conservatives evangelicals allowed to lie so much?". Who, exactly, is "not going to allow" conservative evangelicals to lie? People are free to say whatever they want, that's where the whole freedom of speech thing came from. Are all Canadians This dumb and Do they all randomly Capitalize different words?
 

sandorski

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Originally posted by: sactoking
Originally posted by: sandorski


We do, but you seem to have troubles with it. What does "allowed" have to do with the Constitution? I suspect your Parents didn't "Allow" certain things. Voters often don't "Allow" certain things/people from being approved. Sometimes people are not "allowed" to carry on certain things, by exposing what they are doing or have done.

In short, your bringing the Constitution into this had nothing to do with the Topic.

I brought up the Constitution. I brought it up because the topic specifically said 'allow'. The most relevant definition of allow in this context is "to permit something to happen or to exist". The topic was WHY do we [permit] conservative evangelicals to lie so much. The answer is we [permit] it because it is their RIGHT to lie. To not [permit] it, we would have to stop them by law, which is unconstitutional, or by force, which is just illegal.

Thanks for the clarification, that just means the Fail starts with you though..;):D
 

sactoking

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Originally posted by: sandorski

Thanks for the clarification, that just means the Fail starts with you though..;):D

Ummm..... no. Again, you have yet to point out who/what will stop the conservative evangelicals from lying, since they cannot be legally stopped in the US (where most of these posters, and the thread subject are located).
 

sandorski

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Oct 10, 1999
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Originally posted by: JD50
Originally posted by: sandorski
Originally posted by: JD50
Originally posted by: sandorski
Originally posted by: JD50
Originally posted by: sandorski
Originally posted by: JD50
Originally posted by: sandorski
Not Conservatives, apparently.

Yea, we believe in free speech.

hmm, that's a pile of Fail. Essentially you're ok with being Lied to because of Free Speech. :confused:

You're having a rough day apparently. I'll try to make this as simple as possible. I'm not going to stop someone from lying because I believe in free speech. Now can you answer my question? Who, exactly, is going to stop "conservatives" (or liberals, or anyone else...) from lying?

Already explained. You expose it, repeat as necessary.

Exposing something doesn't stop it. Who, exactly, is going to STOP "conservatives" from lying?

Good god your dense. I seriously doubt you're the Defeatist schmuck you're posting as in this thread. Go ahead and troll on....

Ok, one last time. The topic of this thread is "Why are conservatives evangelicals allowed to lie so much?". Who, exactly, is "not going to allow" conservative evangelicals to lie? People are free to say whatever they want, that's where the whole freedom of speech thing came from. Are all Canadians This dumb and Do they all randomly Capitalize different words?

How about, oh I dunno, maybe, YOU! I think you really miss the point of a Free Society. YOU are more influential and powerful than you think. If someone Lies repeatedly, just ignore what they are saying. Don't "Allow" them to Lie to YOU again.
 

JD50

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Originally posted by: sactoking
Originally posted by: sandorski

Thanks for the clarification, that just means the Fail starts with you though..;):D

Ummm..... no. Again, you have yet to point out who/what will stop the conservative evangelicals from lying, since they cannot be legally stopped in the US (where most of these posters, and the thread subject are located).

He has no answer to that, he's obviously trolling this thread, which oddly enough, is just one giant troll thread anyways.
 

sandorski

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Oct 10, 1999
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Originally posted by: sactoking
Originally posted by: sandorski

Thanks for the clarification, that just means the Fail starts with you though..;):D

Ummm..... no. Again, you have yet to point out who/what will stop the conservative evangelicals from lying, since they cannot be legally stopped in the US (where most of these posters, and the thread subject are located).

You just lack imagination, perception of nuance, or even Moral center to continue to be making these statements of Fail.
 

sactoking

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Originally posted by: sandorski
You just lack imagination, perception of nuance, or even Moral center to continue to be making these statements of Fail.

And again, no real answers.
 

sandorski

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Originally posted by: sactoking
Originally posted by: sandorski
You just lack imagination, perception of nuance, or even Moral center to continue to be making these statements of Fail.

And again, no real answers.

Read my other Posts, answers are clear to anyone who can read. This tangent is really quite ridiculous, even for Republicans.
 

JD50

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Originally posted by: sandorski
Originally posted by: sactoking
Originally posted by: sandorski
You just lack imagination, perception of nuance, or even Moral center to continue to be making these statements of Fail.

And again, no real answers.

Read my other Posts, answers are clear to anyone who can read. This tangent is really quite ridiculous, even for Republicans.

This thread was started by a liberal. This little tangent was started by you, an obvious liberal. :confused:

Is it really so hard to answer a simple question?
 

sactoking

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Originally posted by: sandorski
Read my other Posts, answers are clear to anyone who can read. This tangent is really quite ridiculous, even for Republicans.

I give up. Screw you guys, I'm going home.
 

Red Dawn

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If they do lie they are allowed to do so by those who follow them just like anybody else who has a following lies be they Religious, Atheist, Liberal or Conservative.
 

sandorski

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
If they do lie they are allowed to do so by those who follow them just like anybody else who has a following a lies be they Religious, Atheist, Liberal or Conservative.

yup
 

sandorski

No Lifer
Oct 10, 1999
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Originally posted by: JD50
Originally posted by: sandorski
Originally posted by: sactoking
Originally posted by: sandorski
You just lack imagination, perception of nuance, or even Moral center to continue to be making these statements of Fail.

And again, no real answers.

Read my other Posts, answers are clear to anyone who can read. This tangent is really quite ridiculous, even for Republicans.

This thread was started by a liberal. This little tangent was started by you, an obvious liberal. :confused:

Is it really so hard to answer a simple question?

Now we're getting somewhere. Is this why you and Sacto are feigning stupidity, because there's a "Conservative" involved?
 

JD50

Lifer
Sep 4, 2005
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Originally posted by: sandorski
Originally posted by: JD50
Originally posted by: sandorski
Originally posted by: sactoking
Originally posted by: sandorski
You just lack imagination, perception of nuance, or even Moral center to continue to be making these statements of Fail.

And again, no real answers.

Read my other Posts, answers are clear to anyone who can read. This tangent is really quite ridiculous, even for Republicans.

This thread was started by a liberal. This little tangent was started by you, an obvious liberal. :confused:

Is it really so hard to answer a simple question?

Now we're getting somewhere. Is this why you and Sacto are feigning stupidity, because there's a "Conservative" involved?

I don't care if someone is conservative or liberal, they can lie all they want. It's not my place to tell someone what they can or can't say.

Yes, I ignore obvious liars, that does not mean that I've stopped that person from lying.
 

sandorski

No Lifer
Oct 10, 1999
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Originally posted by: JD50
Originally posted by: sandorski
Originally posted by: JD50
Originally posted by: sandorski
Originally posted by: sactoking
Originally posted by: sandorski
You just lack imagination, perception of nuance, or even Moral center to continue to be making these statements of Fail.

And again, no real answers.

Read my other Posts, answers are clear to anyone who can read. This tangent is really quite ridiculous, even for Republicans.

This thread was started by a liberal. This little tangent was started by you, an obvious liberal. :confused:

Is it really so hard to answer a simple question?

Now we're getting somewhere. Is this why you and Sacto are feigning stupidity, because there's a "Conservative" involved?

I don't care if someone is conservative or liberal, they can lie all they want. It's not my place to tell someone what they can or can't say.

Yes, I ignore obvious liars, that does not mean that I've stopped that person from lying.

You have stopped them Lying to you. As others join in, soon they are simply stopped.
 

JD50

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If you and Red Dawn are talking about conservatives allowing themselves to be lied to, then that is a completely separate issue, and hardly specific to conservatives. The question should be, "why do people allow themselves to be lied to?". There's crazies on both sides of the aisle, not just conservatives. However, this is a completely different question than the OP posed in his thread title.
 

sandorski

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Originally posted by: JD50
If you and Red Dawn are talking about conservatives allowing themselves to be lied to, then that is a completely separate issue, and hardly specific to conservatives. The question should be, "why do people allow themselves to be lied to?". There's crazies on both sides of the aisle, not just conservatives. However, this is a completely different question than the OP posed in his thread title.

Reds' comment is non-Partisan or Omni-Partisan, depending on how you look at it. He didn't imply any side, just how Partisans allow things.