well doesn't a racist like farakan get to speak at colleges? i mean a grand dragon of the kkk wouldn't obviously
That is an EXCELLENT point. wonder what kind of response that will draw?
why is Farakan treated differently than white racists?
My guess would be that he's in a minority and so some people feel he's got a right to have his views. White racists don't really have anything to complain about.
I'm not saying those are the way it should be, but just a perspective as to why he's better received than Daniel Carver.
If you look at American History, in the past each minority group that has occupied the lowest rung of society has managed to bring itself up to at least middle class. Even the Irish did, and they did this by accomodating society's standards and by trying to fit in as much as possible.
Black Americans seem to be doing just the opposite. They make an effort to stand out by wearing such flashy clothing,baggy pants, and massive jewlery. They also have chosen to radically modfiy our English language into this Ebonics crap. How can they ever expect to advance in society if they keep this up. They will never get anywhere unless they accomodate to society's standards and try to assimilate as much as possible. I know this sounds harsh, but its the damn truth and nobody wants to say it. Black people will probably never rise out of poverty because even the way they speak sounds ignorant and the way some of them dress is even worse. Now I am not talking about all black people so don't point me out as a racist. And NO, you cannot "AXE ME A FSCKIN QUESTION" the damn word is ASK!!!!!!!!!!!!
Black Americans seem to be doing just the opposite. They make an effort to stand out by wearing such flashy clothing,baggy pants, and massive jewlery. They also have chosen to radically modfiy our English language into this Ebonics crap. How can they ever expect to advance in society if they keep this up. They will never get anywhere unless they accomodate to society's standards and try to assimilate as much as possible. I know this sounds harsh, but its the damn truth and nobody wants to say it. Black people will probably never rise out of poverty because even the way they speak sounds ignorant and the way some of them dress is even worse. Now I am not talking about all black people so don't point me out as a racist. And NO, you cannot "AXE ME A FSCKIN QUESTION" the damn word is ASK!!!!!!!!!!!!
LOL i've been axed a question before...seriously tho, its more of the individual ppl than the group it also depends where u are...imo ghetto ppl tend to be alot more hateful for no apparent reason than middle class/upper class ppl, what would they care really about what u do...and it transcends races theres plenty of ppl of all races...
Along those lines, I'm so sick of If you'd like to continue in English press 1, if you'd like to continue in spanish Press 2. WTF is that.
I hate all this multi language CRAP. my 68 yr old grandmother choose to do her citizenship interview all in english, it wasn't perfect, she is by no means fluent but she TRIED. and she passed and is a US citizen. I'm very proud of her.
My wife took her drivers License Exam in ENGLISH even tho the Korean version was available (she'd only been in the US for 1.5 yrs when she took the exam).
English should be made the NATIONAL language. there really is no excuse for not having done so.
Dude thats where u are misunderstanding. Its not about being dicriminated against. everyone here has been discriminated against inn some shape or form. u cant understand what I or anyone besides yourself is going though. I doubt that your mothern and father had to drink at a colored water fountain and sit on the back of the bus and all types of things like that. they didnt have to fight just to be put into the same schools as everyone else.. also what most people misunderstand is that it is an internal race problem. by that i mean not only do i have to do twice as good to be on the same level as a middle class white person or asian person but i have to do that by having 90 of my peers hatin on me cause i am tryinto get out of the ghetto. now correct me if im wrong but asian kids will not rag on eeach other cause they are smart if anything they help each other out.
you can call it bs all you want if u got somthing to say besides "whatever u say is bs", holla
Im gonna answer this one statement to statement
black people are not doing the opposite. we radically modified english cause no one would teach us how to read in slavery and sharecropper times. plus our native african languages usually didnt nhave the verb "to be" so we had to adjust accordingly. just beacuse i use street slang with my n*ggaz doesnt mean i cant advance in society. WTF am I going to assimilate for. last time i checked most of pop cuture has been trying to copy "our" style. Its not the truth I dont have to "accomodate". this is a dumb statement because only about 26.4 percent of black people are in poverty so go somewhere with that. that last satement was ignoratn and the way you worded it was even worse. it doesnt matter if u talk about one black person that way it still sounds racist as hell. you may not be racist baut some of the stuff u said sounds like some nazi sh!t.
hmmm you make an interesting point about pop culture trying to copy black styles which is for hte most part true. Look at rap cd sales, some 80 % is bought buy white suburban teens. And sorry but the truth is that if you don't assimilate you will never move up. Take a lesson from every immigrant group that has came here and been successful, they all assimilated to one degree or another. "Jason Lee" "Mike Chan" "Danny Chung" i mean in one way or another most all groups have assimilated. And you can learn how to speak english properly if you want to, you choose not to and that's my main gripe.
Assimilate? WTF is assimilate explain that one to me. i aint no immigrant. if anything i am the most america person in here. I can speak english properly and very well. And its not about learning how because i know how its just that when i am with my peoples im gonna speak in slang.
And dont ever say that I am not going to move up. The fact that I would have to assimilate into something is so freaking retarded. I hold a steady full time job. I am attending college. If that isnt assimilation i dont know what is.
PlatinumGold:
I personally went to Korea in 1994 (something like that) and I almost faught with some Korean kid (I was about 12? something like that) in Seoul and in Pusan my dad was trying to buy some stuff from a store but that old guy didn't speak any english or mandarin so he gave him a bad time and pushed him out of the store. I DON'T HATE KOREANS. I think you're racist by saying crap like that since there are a LOT of people who will be pissed no matter WHO YOU ARE when their car is struck or whatever.
Saying all black people are intolerant is just like saying all whites are nazis. Being Asian myself (BTW the "asian" race does NOT exist, there is no such thing as an "asian" race) I can tell you some asian communities are pretty racist too, but that doesn't mean they're ALL racist like you suggested.
I personally went to Korea in 1994 (something like that) and I almost faught with some Korean kid (I was about 12? something like that) in Seoul and in Pusan my dad was trying to buy some stuff from a store but that old guy didn't speak any english or mandarin so he gave him a bad time and pushed him out of the store. I DON'T HATE KOREANS. I think you're racist by saying crap like that since there are a LOT of people who will be pissed no matter WHO YOU ARE when their car is struck or whatever.
Saying all black people are intolerant is just like saying all whites are nazis. Being Asian myself (BTW the "asian" race does NOT exist, there is no such thing as an "asian" race) I can tell you some asian communities are pretty racist too, but that doesn't mean they're ALL racist like you suggested.
any more than there is a "black" race. comeon. now your getting into ridiculous semantics.
crippler
all the internal struggles you speak of, just demonstrates why blacks are discriminated against. your right, other ethnics tend to help each other more than blacks do (omfg another generalization) it is sooo easy for you to drop generalizations and claim it isn't racist cause your black but when i as a non black person make the same type of generalization it's racist.
that's just weak.
Why should i factor this into anything at all?? is it my fault that 90 of your peers hate you because your trying to get out of the ghetto??
ASSIMILATE can have very different meanings. By assimilate, i mean that it would be a big step towards to the future if blacks were taught better grammar in schools and how to speak properly as well. If there was a job interview, who do you think they are most likely to hire: the guy who wants to AXE you a question or the guy who wants to ASK you a question.
sudheer anne
this "aks" you thing really seems to bother you, but have you actually heard that outside of TV or the movies??
also, what about psgetthi, i've had lots of my white friends when we were young say psgetthi instead of spaghetti, would that bother you also??
this "aks" you thing really seems to bother you, but have you actually heard that outside of TV or the movies??
also, what about psgetthi, i've had lots of my white friends when we were young say psgetthi instead of spaghetti, would that bother you also??
Man its 3 am im posting in this forum. Anyway platty plat. yea its a generalization but in no way is it racist. i didnt say that puerto ricans keep 20 people in one house. now that would have been racist, dirty. My examples do qualify because it shows that i have to deal with oppressioin from both sides. there no particular group that i know other than black people that are anti-intellectuallist. i named asians because not only do they help each other out they helped me out when i was in high school.
and about the 90 pecent thing. what youre not understanding or i didnt make my point clearly is that if theres about 10% blacks and 90% of everyone else that means i have to overcome obstacles coming from 99% of the population. And the situation is so more complex than that but since it is 3 in the morning im gonna leave it at that, dude
Imma add some sh!t to this. what the above generally means is that i with my subpar innercity eduaction have to work to or three times harder than any of you to get to where u are at. I have to go to community college because my school system didnt prepare me for the harvards and the princetons. (I could have gone on AA but i know that would be a waste of time because i would be outclassed and outmatched) asians and whites usually promote academics more than blacks. (generalization 1) they are also not anti-intellectuallists (generalization 2). blacks are generally geared to get by the easiest way possible( Generalization 3) those are genralizations but they are true. if its the truth than how can it be racist. but yall come one here and dont know what yall are talking about and think that u can tell me what i need to do or that what i have been going throught her past 18 years and will go through till i die is irrelevant. and thats bovine balderdash.
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and about the 90 pecent thing. what youre not understanding or i didnt make my point clearly is that if theres about 10% blacks and 90% of everyone else that means i have to overcome obstacles coming from 99% of the population. And the situation is so more complex than that but since it is 3 in the morning im gonna leave it at that, dude
Imma add some sh!t to this. what the above generally means is that i with my subpar innercity eduaction have to work to or three times harder than any of you to get to where u are at. I have to go to community college because my school system didnt prepare me for the harvards and the princetons. (I could have gone on AA but i know that would be a waste of time because i would be outclassed and outmatched) asians and whites usually promote academics more than blacks. (generalization 1) they are also not anti-intellectuallists (generalization 2). blacks are generally geared to get by the easiest way possible( Generalization 3) those are genralizations but they are true. if its the truth than how can it be racist. but yall come one here and dont know what yall are talking about and think that u can tell me what i need to do or that what i have been going throught her past 18 years and will go through till i die is irrelevant. and thats bovine balderdash.
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yeah taught better grammar in schools. who runs the schools? white people. who about to take over my city? white people. i dont know many black people that cant or dont talk proper english. you are only pointing out the lowest of the low and a lot of lower class white people cant speack english very well and they outnumber the blacks u speack of. u cant just talk about the worst common denominator and say we need to assimilate.
and whats really annoying is when someone says "asked" like askdid. anyway if the dude cant speak proper english i dont think he would even go to a job interview.
and if someone wants to be anal about my grammar in here its because my mind processes much faster than i can type. and i dont feel like editing nothing. and it seems that a lot of people in here are pontificating and have nothing really to back it up. esp shdheer anne and the bigot bling bling
The same should be told to all of those people that ALWAYS ask 'Where are you from' or 'What are you'...I HATE it when someone asks me that.
What is wrong with asking someone where they are from? For christ's sake, that is a normal part of conversation.
Im white and people ask me where Im from, Germany, and I dont give a rats ass.
Now, if they continue to go on with that into some stereotype, I see your point.
I do agree that 'What are you' is pretty damned rude though.
That's very true up here in Toronto. Though all my black friends here are cool. I'm not racist.
dude u aint have to say that you arent racist. thats like me going around reminding people that im not gay.
just had to pick on you on that one
just had to pick on you on that one
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