Why are Afro Americans SOOO Intolerant of other Ethnics?

[LongAce]

First, I don't think that PlatinumGold is a bigot... He just need to explain his point better.
Reading what he's wrote. I think he's trying to say that if his wife wasn't an Asain American,
then the balck guy would not have given her such a hard time when it comes to exchanging information.
At the same time, it doesn't have to be always black people that does that. It can be any jacka*s out there.

Going back to the thread's title: Why are Afro Americans SOOO Intolerant of other Ethnics?
Personally, I'm not too sure myself. But I do feel that they are more races than any other groups out there.
Not that I'm saying that anyone group is not races at are. Just that the other gorups don't blame failures
due to their Ethnicity as much. Given, that there are people out there that discriminate people due to skin
color and family's back ground. It's not always blacks that are being discriminated against. Right now, I do see that
White males are being discrminiated when it comes to college admission and Asians are starting to be
discrminiated too.

Anytime an Ethnicity is in your favor, no one would complain about it. But once it's against you, you'll complain like there's no tomorrow.
At the same time, don't always think that it's race that you didn't get what you want. Stop blaming other people for your failures.
It could be you that's the problem and most likely it is.

Lets hope it's you b/c that's something you can change.

 

[tallest1]

I'm not gonna add argument to this flamefest b/c what I wanted to say has been said in the 2 above posts.

Still, to turn the question around, asian culture clash threads aside, why is it OK for african americans to get ragged on so much in OT? You don't see 'white/asian people suck' threads on here due to high % of whites & asians here but then theres this thread and only a handful of african americans like myself able to defend ourselves. If you think my race is intolerant of other ethnicities and have a good argument for it, please post it in a place with a high percentage of blacks and watch the more appropriate replies come up. I'm tired of all these, outsider assumption, and 'hear hear' replies :disgust:

 

[CripplerCrossface]

Originally posted by: tallest1
I'm not gonna add argument to this flamefest b/c what I wanted to say has been said in the 2 above posts.

Still, to turn the question around, asian culture clash threads aside, why is it OK for african americans to get ragged on so much in OT? You don't see 'white/asian people suck' threads on here due to high % of whites & asians here but then theres this thread and only a handful of african americans like myself able to defend ourselves. If you think my race is intolerant of other ethnicities and have a good argument for it, please post it in a place with a high percentage of blacks and watch the more appropriate replies come up. I'm tired of all these, outsider assumption, and 'hear hear' replies :disgust:

damn straight.

 

[PsychoAndy]

Originally posted by: tallest1
I'm not gonna add argument to this flamefest b/c what I wanted to say has been said in the 2 above posts.

Still, to turn the question around, asian culture clash threads aside, why is it OK for african americans to get ragged on so much in OT? You don't see 'white/asian people suck' threads on here due to high % of whites & asians here but then theres this thread and only a handful of african americans like myself able to defend ourselves. If you think my race is intolerant of other ethnicities and have a good argument for it, please post it in a place with a high percentage of blacks and watch the more appropriate replies come up. I'm tired of all these, outsider assumption, and 'hear hear' replies :disgust:

Misconceptions, for the same reason that the black guy in Platinum's story might've been pissed. As for a place with a high percentage of blacks, I have NEVER seen an internet forum with many people that remotely resembles a 20% forum population of black people, so that's out of the question for most of us. So, why don't you explain your views on the subject, instead of answering a question with a question?

 

[pulse8]

Originally posted by: Gr1mL0cK
My thoughs (not that anyone cares), but to try and salvage this thread from a flamefest.

PlatinumGold, thats being a bigot as KaBudokan pointed out.

Generalization, prejudgement, stereotyping. Give me a fsckin break people, what makes you think you are all great people that don't do this. When I see a Hispanic male wearing a wife beater and ragged jeans. I think druggie/gangster. When I see an Asian male driving an Acura Integra with spiky hair. I think ricer and smokes. When I see a Blonde White female that has valley talk. I think shes stupid. When I see a tall black female, I think loud and abonoxious. If I see an Asian with dyed long hair, I think FOB. WHO THE HELL DOESN'T?! Oh wait, obviously some of you dont because shoot, you guys never stereotype at all and don't get any first thoughts from what people are wearing or anything. Nope, no siree..

Oh yeah and guess what? You ever wonder where stereotypes come from... BECAUSE THEY ARE OFTEN TRUE. It's not realistically you expect EVERYONE to follow that stereotype, but realistically you expect MOST to though.


And WTF is this "oh you're not black or you're not poor so you can't say anything since you have no credibility or experience"?! WTF?! Riiiiiight yeahhhh. With that type of thinking our system of government would be useless. Yes, only poor black people can make decisions and comments regarding poor black people. Only rich white people can make decisions and comments in regard to rich white people. Yeahhhh, that would work.

Uhhh, and regards to the "Why say Asian-American" and not Asian or American. You just liek to be difficult huh? What if you're parents are traveling and are from say China, and they are temporarliy in the U.S. for vacation for the time being and have a child. What? So are you American? Or are you Chinese? Lets not be anal here now.

And finally. I'm a college student. My family is upper-middle class. I'm and Aisan American. So I guess, I can add nothing to this discussion since I dont' qualify huh.

You're getting heated over nothing because you didn't read the whole thread.

First off, in most of the examples you give about prejudging people, if you took the race out of the equation, you could still make those judgments. The race of the person has nothing to do with it.

Second, if you had read what the comment about not being a poor black person had to do with the conversation, you would've realized that it was in regards to someone claiming that black people in the country have it easy. Not being a black person living in this country, I didn't think he nor anyone of any other race has any idea what it's like to be a black person in this country. It's the same way I don't know what it's like to be an Asian in this country because I'm not one.

And finally, you can say whatever you want in this thread. The only way you'll add to it is by saying something intelligent and actually reading the entire thread. You'd find that the only thing you need to qualify in talking about would be the discussion on blacks having it easy in this country.

If you'd like to read the entire post again and then make a logical comment on the topic at hand, I'd be more than happy to read what you have to say.

 

[Beowulf]

I live in Miami,FL but I was born in Salinas,CA and my parents are Cuban and even though I don't look hispanic I have never had racial problems.Also my family never got free handouts from anyone my fathers pride is too big for that he rather work 3 jobs than accept money from the government.

 

[GasX]

a korean calling blacks racist?

that's rich...

 

[brtspears2]

Originally posted by: KEV1N
I'm asian and I find that in the bay area, black people are my best allies.

California has alot of people of different backgrounds. No one really shows prejudice, its all normal. People interacting with people, being social and other "people" like things.

But, African Americans are a bit sensitive. You say anything close to prejudice against them, and they will be all over you like a cheap colone. But, then I walk down the street, and they are saying "Hey <insert derogatory term for black person here>," OVER and OVER, but another person cant say it. I just dont understand that. I guess its ok to be a certain race, and make fun of your own race using terms that are related to that race, but blow your top when you are being made fun of with those racist terms.

 

[CripplerCrossface]

But, African Americans are a bit sensitive. You say anything close to prejudice against them, and they will be all over you like a cheap colone. But, then I walk down the street, and they are saying "Hey <insert derogatory term for black person here>," OVER and OVER, but another person cant say it. I just dont understand that. I guess its ok to be a certain race, and make fun of your own race using terms that are related to that race, but blow your top when you are being made fun of with those racist terms.

You have no fscking clue.

 

[Weyoun]

Derogatory racist terms should always be considered in the context in which they are used - if a black person calls one of their black friends a n*gga, then no harm is intended. It would be rediculous to think that the first person is trying to degrade african americans. Some Aboriginal people in my school call one another n*ggas on occasion, though it sometimes also comes from their white friends. They don't react in an offended manner because the term wasn't intended to be offensive. In fact, their white friends are often called n*ggas.

Take another case. For example, an angry shopkeeper calling one of their customers a n*gga during an argument. The clear intention of this is to aggrivate and degrade. The black person has every right to then call the shopkeeper a racist, as the term was used in racial prejudice.

And to those who think speaking doesn't count as an action, when was the last time you reacted to something that was said? Did you proceed quickly to work after the boss rang to say you were late? That appears to me as a cause-effect relationship. How then was the phone call not an action? It produced an effect didn't it?

Just some thoughts

 

[Pliablemoose]

Why are Afro Americans so intolerant? Because they can get away with it:|

 

[hans007]

i remember after 9/11 , there was a poll that showed that a greater percenetage of blacks favored racial profiling on middle eastern people, even though they are suposedly the greatest victim as a race of racial profiling.


my roomate is black. he always talks about mixing races and all this bs, but all his friends are black. i asked him about that once, and he just said some crap about non black people not understanding black people or something.

doesnt even make sense, he's a 2nd generation nigerian immigrant, from orange country where there are 4001023203 white people, and i'm an asian immigrant 1st gen. you'd think we'd have more in common than say him and like a black person from compton who is a descendant of slaves but apparently not.


i dont know, but prominent black people say a lot of crap that makes really no logical sense, so whatever...

 

[MrChicken]

IMHO, when you classify yourself as a "?????-american" you have segregated yourself and deserve to be discriminated against.

I'm color blind, everybody is an American until they tell me different. Tell me you are Asian-American, and you are telling me that you are Asian first, American second.

 

[LongAce]

Originally posted by: MrChicken
IMHO, when you classify yourself as a "?????-american" you have segregated yourself and deserve to be discriminated against.

I'm color blind, everybody is an American until they tell me different. Tell me you are Asian-American, and you are telling me that you are Asian first, American second.

In response to this comment about everyone being an American and not XXX-American. I'm a 1/2 generation American and I see my self as only American but when ever I fill out documents for anything. I have to fill out a section telling them my ethnicity. Segregation has been engrain in our country that even if you want to be called an American and not XXX-American. You really can't escape it. Deserving or not deserving to be discriminated, the only people that deserves to be discriminated against are people that discriminate other people. That includes Blacks and Asian.

Everyone's a little races b/c you think your race is the best. But how far you're willing act on that racism is what seperates you from being a bigot and just a normal human being.

 

[Chaotic42]

Originally posted by: MrChicken
IMHO, when you classify yourself as a "?????-american" you have segregated yourself and deserve to be discriminated against.

I'm color blind, everybody is an American until they tell me different. Tell me you are Asian-American, and you are telling me that you are Asian first, American second.

Bingo.

 

[CripplerCrossface]

Originally posted by: hans007

my roomate is black. he always talks about mixing races and all this bs, but all his friends are black. i asked him about that once, and he just said some crap about non black people not understanding black people or something.

doesnt even make sense, he's a 2nd generation nigerian immigrant, from orange country where there are 4001023203 white people, and i'm an asian immigrant 1st gen. you'd think we'd have more in common than say him and like a black person from compton who is a descendant of slaves but apparently not.


i dont know, but prominent black people say a lot of crap that makes really no logical sense, so whatever...

the prominent black people you are talking about are just trying to make money and keep their name out there. One person you may be referring to is Al sharpton. I for one doesnt listen to a word he says. and for u and the black roomate yall may have more in common but on different levels. he has got plenty in common with the black dude from compton. Cause it dont matter where we are from we are black first to most people. And most people outside of the race dont understand what we go through. its not bs its the fact of the matter. like when i started hangin around asians, they had like a month learning curve just to understand where i am coming from on certain issues.

 

[Kaiser__Sose]

As for a place with a high percentage of blacks, I have NEVER seen an internet forum with many people that remotely resembles a 20% forum population of black people, so that's out of the question for most of us.

WWW.BLACKPLANET.COM

 

[WhiteWonder]

kill whitey!

 

[Mani]

I've got a story to relate myself. I've gotten in one fender bender in my life, and it was at an intersection with a black guy - my fault. He got out of the car looking slightly irate and surveyed the damage (wasn't much, bumper pretty much absorbed it) and saw that I was shaken up since I'd never hit someone before. He then asked me where I was going and when I said the airport, he asked me if I knew how to get there. I wasn't too sure of the way and he politely gave me directions, got back in his car and left.

I'm of east Indian descent, yet I didn't get so much as a strange look from him. He was clearly in a position where I wouldn't have blamed him the least bit for being pissed, yet he actually went out of his way to help me.

The fact of the matter is, there are assholes of EVERY race, but the moment you generalize all of them as being intolerant, you become intolerant yourself. I can tell the vast majority of the people here who are chiming in to attack black people have never known one well, and generally might try to avoid them. And when they are forced into interacting with them (say, with an obnoxious one) they base their opinions on all of them based on those experiences.

 

[ObiDon]

Apparently, PlatinumGold doesn't realize that the guy was yelling at his wife because she *dinged* him. Not because she was Korean. He was pissed! The only way the dude getting out of the car wouldn't have been screaming would be if had been Ben Stein!

 

[PlatinumGold]

Cause it dont matter where we are from we are black first to most people. And most people outside of the race dont understand what we go through. its not bs its the fact of the matter.

you see, this is the kind of bs that gets me started.

Outside of the RACE?? which RACE is that??

What we go through?? i grew up in the DEEP SOUTH, during the early 70's. Everyone assumed i was a Chinese or Vietnamese and that I was the source of their problem, White or Black btw. Most people never bothered to learn anything about me or my culture, the fact that I'm not CHINESE, that My father and uncles fought on the same side as the americans during the KOREAN WAR, that We are not VIETNAMESE and that we had NOTHING to do with that war. That we are not Chinks or Gooks or what ever derogatory they want to throw at us. I could go on and on and on. so don't tell me that as an ASIAN i dont' understand what it means to be discriminated against.

This is the EXACT attitude by blacks in general (YES i am generalizing here) that really annoys me.

Sure i started this thread with a Bigoted statement. It got people reading it. Sure i've made statements that show me to be a generalizing sh!thead. so what. as has been said before there is some truth to generalizations. if i 200 encounters with people of a certain race and i observe certain traits in 70% of them, and then if 100 other people i know also see the same traits in the majority of that group of people, at what point does a Generalization become a statistical reality??

 

[PlatinumGold]

Apparently, PlatinumGold doesn't realize that the guy was yelling at his wife because she *dinged* him. Not because she was Korean. He was pissed! The only way the dude getting out of the car wouldn't have been screaming would be if had been Ben Stein!

oh btw, he called afterwards.

he was yelling and screaming about how much damage had been done to his car. how he deserved to get soo much money. etc etc etc.

you see, this is BS. and some of you are right, it doesn't matter what race he is, it is still BS.

I calmly told him that i had claimed it with my insurance and that the insurance adjuster would contact him.

He was still ranting and raving. he wants cash, he wants to be paid. etc etc etc. now, we have already acknowledged to everyone involved that we were at fault. sh!t happens. but we are being responsible about it. we have informed our insurance company and they have said they will take care of it. the phone call in the evening was unnecessary. but ok, i'll let that slide. the behavior even after i informed him that we had made a claim, i gave him the claim number etc and he is still going on and on. explain to me how that is acceptable behavior. what does he think i owe him??

 

[pulse8]

Originally posted by: PlatinumGold

Apparently, PlatinumGold doesn't realize that the guy was yelling at his wife because she *dinged* him. Not because she was Korean. He was pissed! The only way the dude getting out of the car wouldn't have been screaming would be if had been Ben Stein!

oh btw, he called afterwards.

he was yelling and screaming about how much damage had been done to his car. how he deserved to get soo much money. etc etc etc.

you see, this is BS. and some of you are right, it doesn't matter what race he is, it is still BS.

I calmly told him that i had claimed it with my insurance and that the insurance adjuster would contact him.

He was still ranting and raving. he wants cash, he wants to be paid. etc etc etc. now, we have already acknowledged to everyone involved that we were at fault. sh!t happens. but we are being responsible about it. we have informed our insurance company and they have said they will take care of it. the phone call in the evening was unnecessary. but ok, i'll let that slide. the behavior even after i informed him that we had made a claim, i gave him the claim number etc and he is still going on and on. explain to me how that is acceptable behavior. what does he think i owe him??

If you have his address and phone number as well, tell him that it's being taken care of via the insurance company and the next time he calls you to harass you about it, you're going to call the cops. Then if he continues to yell and harass, then actually call the cops up.

 

[nitrousninja]

it's not prejudice if you hate veryone equally

 

[ChrisCramer247]

I think the NAACP and Jesse Jackson are gonna to post soon!

Run for the hills brothas run!

j/k