Whoa! New type of space drive discovered

[cytg111]

Do any of you follow the NSF? NS Forums?
Besides the revelation that the EW paper have passed peer review there is something else odd going on.. A number of the key people and builders have gone quiet.. like over night and when they do post, the dont talk to eachother. Something is going on behind the curtains in DIY emdrive building land...

 

[Charmonium]

Next step - optimization. I want full impulse power Mr. Scott

 

[HeXen]

Whenever I hear "peer review passed" I think of conspiracies, shady men in black that decide what technology we're allowed to use or not use. Yup, my whole roof is lined with tin foil.

 

[norseamd]

Do any of you follow the NSF? NS Forums?
Besides the revelation that the EW paper have passed peer review there is something else odd going on.. A number of the key people and builders have gone quiet.. like over night and when they do post, the dont talk to eachother. Something is going on behind the curtains in DIY emdrive building land...

Links?

 

[Paratus]

Do any of you follow the NSF? NS Forums?
Besides the revelation that the EW paper have passed peer review there is something else odd going on.. A number of the key people and builders have gone quiet.. like over night and when they do post, the dont talk to eachother. Something is going on behind the curtains in DIY emdrive building land...

I have and as I've posted before I've met a couple of the Eagleworks guys/seen the lab. Hmm maybe I should poke my head in.....

 

[Paratus]

Links?

http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?board=73.0

There's like 8 EM drive threads. They start a new one when it gets to long.

 

[Craig234]

Now imagine if we actually funded NASA with more than something like .4% of the budget per year.

In the 1960's, with the Kennedy/LBJ moon landing project, up to 5% of the federal budget was for NASA.

 

[cytg111]

I have and as I've posted before I've met a couple of the Eagleworks guys/seen the lab. Hmm maybe I should poke my head in.....

Please do!! I've followed the forums since Thread1, never posted there cause I dont want to pollute (its allready stinking sometimes).. It is the single most exciting thing happening in space science atm (and that is compared to spacex and the mars mission).
Post back? .

 

[cytg111]

http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?board=73.0

There's like 8 EM drive threads. They start a new one when it gets to long.

Yea, thread8 is the latest and greatest.

http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=40959.0

Lots of sharp fellas and gals, look at this post

https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=40959.msg1577977#msg1577977

and specially ;

Dr. Woodward's and Dr. Heidi Fearn's Mach effect. B-fields and PZTs and Caps

Dr. Harold Sonny White's Quantum vacuum plasma thruster model (QVP thruster). Dielectrics

Roger Shawyer's EMDrive basic theory. Naked internal drive

notsosureofit Hypothesis. All configs

Mike McCulloch's MiHsC Theory. All configs

Todd Desiato (@WarpTech)'s Evanescent Wave Theory A mix of several


Todd and notsureofit have papers out as well.

There is one possibility of extreme eureka here and thats the Interferometry tests... If they come back positive then we might have found a new way to literally BEND THE WORLD.

 

[Paratus]

Please do!! I've followed the forums since Thread1, never posted there cause I dont want to pollute (its allready stinking sometimes).. It is the single most exciting thing happening in space science atm (and that is compared to spacex and the mars mission).
Post back? .

Unfortunately if I did learn anything brand new I wouldn't post it. It's not my place to release information to the public, it's Dr Whites and the public affairs office to determine that.

I can confirm that they did the experiments they did in the way they said they did in the Brady et al paper from a year ago.

I think patience is the order of the day.....

 

[cytg111]

...... if I did learn anything brand new .... It's ..... my place to release information to the public, it's Dr Whites and the public affairs .....
I can confirm that they did the experiments they did in the way they said they did in the Brady et al paper from a year ago.

I think patience is the order of the day.....

Yea yea i know, but you could give it a thumbs up or a thumbs down .

 

[Linux23]

Star Trek here we come

 

[zinfamous]

man, this stuff is too complicated for me. Can someone tell me if rocket go fast?

 

[FerrelGeek]

They look for things. Things to make it go.

 

[flexy]

If the EM drive is real (?), it can go "indefinitely" fast. Even if the created thrust is very small, it can "indefinitely" accelerate in space and thus (in time) reach insane speeds. (In other words: Such a space ship might start a journey hideously slow, but in months/years etc. reach "ludicrous speed".) Someone correct me if I am wrong here.

 

[Ruptga]

If the EM drive is real (?), it can go "indefinitely" fast. Even if the created thrust is very small, it can "indefinitely" accelerate in space and thus (in time) reach insane speeds. (In other words: Such a space ship might start a journey hideously slow, but in months/years etc. reach "ludicrous speed".) Someone correct me if I am wrong here.

As long as the ship doesn't run out of electrical power (either by getting too far out for solar or by running out of nuclear fuel), that is correct.

 

[Phoenix86]

man, this stuff is too complicated for me. Can someone tell me if rocket go fast?

Eventually.

It's thrust is relatively low, but all you need is electricity to power it. It doesn't require fuel for propellant, so you never run out. For now just assume it's grabbing "something" that's always there in space and squirting out the back generating thrust. Since you can accelerate forever you can work up to really fast speeds, half way through the trip you spin around and start slowing down. Currently we just explode a bunch of shit for a couple minutes and ride along at that speed for the duration of the trip.

Taking fuel out of the equation is HUGE. Now you just need to provide electricity, which is fairly easy to do in space by comparison. Solar panels, nuclear power...

Long story short, Earth->Mars in ~70 days.

 

[zinfamous]

Eventually.

It's thrust is relatively low, but all you need is electricity to power it. It doesn't require fuel for propellant, so you never run out. For now just assume it's grabbing "something" that's always there in space and squirting out the back generating thrust. Since you can accelerate forever you can work up to really fast speeds, half way through the trip you spin around and start slowing down. Currently we just explode a bunch of shit for a couple minutes and ride along at that speed for the duration of the trip.

Taking fuel out of the equation is HUGE. Now you just need to provide electricity, which is fairly easy to do in space by comparison. Solar panels, nuclear power...

Long story short, Earth->Mars in ~70 days.

You mean I can actually get my ass to Mars? :awe:

 

[bradly1101]

You mean I can actually get my ass to Mars? :awe:

Just don't forget to take that thing out of your nose.

 

[disappoint]

Phenomena

Do do do do do doooo

Phenomena

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Phenomena

Do do do do do doooo

Do do do... do do do do do do...

 

[Ken g6]

Long story short, Earth->Mars in ~70 days.

That really depends on mass-efficiency. In other words, can you make the drive faster by pouring more power into it? Can you make a single, larger module that's more powerful? Or do you need more drive modules to get more thrust?

 

[disappoint]

That really depends on mass-efficiency. In other words, can you make the drive faster by pouring more power into it? Can you make a single, larger module that's more powerful? Or do you need more drive modules to get more thrust?

If they could have, they already would have.

 

[MaxDepth]

So what is the status? I tried to read through the NASA thread but the thrust (from what I can tell without my head exploding) is small, almost or equal to the "Lorentz force" which I think(??) is the same amount of force when you try to squish to magnets of the same pole together. I don't think they'll have anything else to really show until October or December? Again, it is all so confusing to read.

 

[Phoenix86]

That really depends on mass-efficiency. In other words, can you make the drive faster by pouring more power into it? Can you make a single, larger module that's more powerful? Or do you need more drive modules to get more thrust?

It seems to scale very well with additional power, with a funky curve.

http://www.nextbigfuture.com/2015/04/eagleworks-nasa-updated-emdrive-models.html

I believe that's from the paper that just finished finished peer review.

 

[disappoint]

Seriously this thing is likely either Lorentz forces, thermal effects or magnetic field forces. It's still within experimental error. There is way too much hand waving and glossing over details so I am hereby labeling it as:

BS