*** Who Won the Second Presidential Debate? ***

[UberNeuman]

As usual for the last four years Obama said nothing and anything he did say was a lie. He's eff'd this country up worse than Carter and that's saying something.
A few months and he'll be gone at least...

Is Hulk smashed?

 

[Zstream]

This. It was sad watching Romney criticize the Libya attack as if the administration should be shamed for Americans being killed in the ME.

Yes they should feel ashamed! They have blood on their hands.

 

[zinfamous]

That third one ain't right... it should be flinging crap.

yeah, I've posted that image at least 3 times in response to posters recently.

Unfortunately, the third one never accurately reflects the habits of the person it is intended for.

 

[zinfamous]

This is why I think he sounded like he was running for Student Body President. I was really expecting him to promise a Flaming Hot Cheetos vending machine in the quad at any moment.

edited.

 

[zinfamous]

Is Hulk smashed?

Anything can be a lie, if you are unwilling to ever accept it as the truth.

 

[buckshot24]

It's the same plan that got us where we are today, the perpetual pitch of the Repubs-

http://www.nextnewdeal.net/rortybomb/romney-will-solve-crisis-exact-same-gop-plan-2008-2006-2004

It's the party of ideas, perpetually bad ideas that haven't changed since the 1920's... Same whore, different dress, different lipstick, with some botox to freshen her up...

No it isn't/

 

[Nemesis 1]

Yes they should feel ashamed! They have blood on their hands.

Hay that really bad. Did it really happen like that . What ass romney is tring to take advantage of dead Americans. So that whole movie thing and everthing said about In a 2 week period was a lie, That help was asked for befor the 11 took place . This isn't testimony given . Thanks for getting it straight for me . Man I had it all back words fuckin romney

 

[buckshot24]

There is a difference between miracle and recovery. People were claiming 3% GDP growth as great economy during George W, which is also "not far away" from 1.5 either.

Unfortunately our crisis was caused by the housing market, which is arguably the worst to recover from. Energy crisis may be another similar situation. Remember, this is the single biggest purchase of most people's lives. People actually expect our economy to "bounce" right back?

This very well may be correct but that doesn't always matter in politics.

 

[waggy]

Unfortunately our crisis was caused by the housing market, which is arguably the worst to recover from. Energy crisis may be another similar situation. Remember, this is the single biggest purchase of most people's lives. People actually expect our economy to "bounce" right back?

/this

that is one reason i had my doubts about obama the first time. i didn't see how would be possible to go from what it was (while it was getting better it fucking sucked) to what he claimed he would do. i am not suprised we are are where we are. The president really has little control over such stuff. they can marginally effect it but its more the company's that do. witch we found with the housing, energy etc..

over all i won't say Obama has been a bad president. but he aslo has not been what others claim (for bad or good)

 

[Juddog]

/this

that is one reason i had my doubts about obama the first time. i didn't see how would be possible to go from what it was (while it was getting better it fucking sucked) to what he claimed he would do. i am not suprised we are are where we are. The president really has little control over such stuff. they can marginally effect it but its more the company's that do. witch we found with the housing, energy etc..

over all i won't say Obama has been a bad president. but he aslo has not been what others claim (for bad or good)

True - a lot of what Obama planned was blocked by the GOP in Congress, to the point of ridiculousness (they blocked things that would benefit all Americans basically just to be obstructionist dicks).

 

[waggy]

True - a lot of what Obama planned was blocked by the GOP in Congress, to the point of ridiculousness (they blocked things that would benefit all Americans basically just to be obstructionist dicks).

yeha but that tactic goes both ways. GOP and Dems need stop the silly bullshit. The win at any cost attitude is killing the US. Far to many (even on the boards) would do anything to fuck over the other party.

 

[jackstar7]

yeha but that tactic goes both ways. GOP and Dems need stop the silly bullshit. The win at any cost attitude is killing the US. Far to many (even on the boards) would do anything to fuck over the other party.

I disagree with the assertion that both do it to the same degree. Can you imagine if Dems had actually blocked the Patriot Act? Or war funding?

Dems buckle like a belt whenever the pressure gets turned up.

 

[waggy]

I disagree with the assertion that both do it to the same degree. Can you imagine if Dems had actually blocked the Patriot Act? Or war funding?

Dems buckle like a belt whenever the pressure gets turned up.

wish they would have blocked the Patriot act..


anyway either one of those would have spelled doom for the Dems at the time.

 

[jackstar7]

wish they would have blocked the Patriot act..


anyway either one of those would have spelled doom for the Dems at the time.

My point on both counts...

 

[emperus]

yeha but that tactic goes both ways. GOP and Dems need stop the silly bullshit. The win at any cost attitude is killing the US. Far to many (even on the boards) would do anything to fuck over the other party.

Why don't you really tell us what you think. Maybe use some examples. It seems your analysis always boils down to, they both do it. There is no depth to that analysis.

 

[emperus]

I disagree with the assertion that both do it to the same degree. Can you imagine if Dems had actually blocked the Patriot Act? Or war funding?

Dems buckle like a belt whenever the pressure gets turned up.

This is exactly my point. Republicans will battle over anything. They don't care if they destroy confidence in government to make a meager political point. Look at the unemployment rate debate.

 

[Juddog]

I disagree with the assertion that both do it to the same degree. Can you imagine if Dems had actually blocked the Patriot Act? Or war funding?

Dems buckle like a belt whenever the pressure gets turned up.

^^ I agree; the Dems have never been as obstructionist as the current crop of GOP candidates has been. There have been a lot of times where I'd wish they would possess a backbone to stop some of the GOP movements but they seem to give in too easy.

 

[buckshot24]

^^ I agree; the Dems have never been as obstructionist as the current crop of GOP candidates has been. There have been a lot of times where I'd wish they would possess a backbone to stop some of the GOP movements but they seem to give in too easy.

I don't think congress has been obstructionist enough. Some things should be obstructed. Obama hasn't seemed to really want to work with the Republicans at all, why should they just roll over? Obama had two years of open roads to get his agenda passed.

 

[jackstar7]

I don't think congress has been obstructionist enough. Some things should be obstructed. Obama hasn't seemed to really want to work with the Republicans at all, why should they just roll over? Obama had two years of open roads to get his agenda passed.

Horseshit.

 

[Schmide]

Obama had two years of open roads to get his agenda passed.

Stop repeating this talking point. We've proved in other threads this was 130 days or so.

 

[zinfamous]

I don't think congress has been obstructionist enough. Some things should be obstructed. Obama hasn't seemed to really want to work with the Republicans at all, why should they just roll over? Obama had two years of open roads to get his agenda passed.

can you recount for me another moment in US history when one major party has made it their sole agenda in Congress to prevent the re-election of a president?

I'm inclined to go with the highly polarizing effect of Lincoln and his buddy Seward, but even they were able to get major compromise through legislation.

 

[randomrogue]

The amazing part is how public this policy of the Republicans is - yet they still have supporters. If you translate this to anything else in life from your work to your home life it's laughable at best.

 

[Jaskalas]

can you recount for me another moment in US history when one major party has made it their sole agenda in Congress to prevent the re-election of a president?

You think this is all about you, your party, your president. We're all out to get him, man!

What you ignored is the alternative. Explosive deficits and Obamacare worked to harden the fiscal conservatives. We opposed Bush and his stimulus, we oppose Obama now. The Dems only have one answer to everything, throw money at it. We'll be there to stop them, every step of the way, because as far as we're concerned it's our spending that's killing us.

Don't you understand how that works? You want to spend money or we're going to destroy the country. We want to STOP you from spending money, or you'll destroy the country.

These two opposing views are NOT reconcilable.

 

[Jaskalas]

The amazing part is how public this policy of the Republicans is - yet they still have supporters. If you translate this to anything else in life from your work to your home life it's laughable at best.

Don't spend what you don't have. That's better applied to home, as individuals find it more difficult to legally print money.

 

[randomrogue]

Yes, stop all legislation that spends money. Brilliant. Totally brilliant. Then blame the President when nothing gets done. Only a fool would think this is good leadership.

There is a Republican idea out there at is ingrained in the party - if nothing gets done the economy is better. I've heard it a 1000 times but I don't believe it. Maybe I choose to not believe it since if a stalemate in government is our best solution then both parties are complete garbage.