*** Who Won the Second Presidential Debate? ***

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Who Won the Second Presidential Debate?

  • Barack Obama

  • Mitt Romney


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jackstar7

Lifer
Jun 26, 2009
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"not sucking so badly" isn't exactly a great campaign slogan.

I was trying to stick with your parlance.

I think we're in recovery. The indicators support it.

I expect you to say "it doesn't feel like recovery", or something akin to that notion.
 

buckshot24

Diamond Member
Nov 3, 2009
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I was trying to stick with your parlance.

I think we're in recovery. The indicators support it.

I expect you to say "it doesn't feel like recovery", or something akin to that notion.
Of course we are in recovery. Our GDP isn't shrinking (recession) its growing therefore we are in recovery. However it is pathetic, 1.5% gdp growth.

But really, most people that vote don't care about definitions they care about paying their bills.
 

lotus503

Diamond Member
Feb 12, 2005
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Of course we are in recovery. Our GDP isn't shrinking (recession) its growing therefore we are in recovery. However it is pathetic, 1.5% gdp growth.

But really, most people that vote don't care about definitions they care about paying their bills.


you bring up a good point most people can pay their bills, those that cant are arguably poor and will most likely vote democratic anyways.
 

jackstar7

Lifer
Jun 26, 2009
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Of course we are in recovery. Our GDP isn't shrinking (recession) its growing therefore we are in recovery. However it is pathetic, 1.5% gdp growth.

But really, most people that vote don't care about definitions they care about paying their bills.

Thanks for delivering on the goods.
 

buckshot24

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Nov 3, 2009
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you bring up a good point most people can pay their bills, those that cant are arguably poor and will most likely vote democratic anyways.
That may be his strategy he creates an expanding base of poor voters or "coalition".
 

PJABBER

Diamond Member
Feb 8, 2001
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Um, No. I caught you "borrowing" Krauthammer's words during the Conventions.

You are our very own Democrat "fact" checker! Where would we be without your diligence and persnicketiness? :awe:

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gothamhunter

Diamond Member
Apr 20, 2010
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I normally don't post in here and just read, but I'm curious this wasn't brought up yet:

Does anyone really know what Romney's "5 point plan" is yet? He keeps talking about it, but he never gets into the math and details as if we wouldn't understand it.
 

lotus503

Diamond Member
Feb 12, 2005
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That may be his strategy he creates an expanding base of poor voters or "coalition".

I don't think its a strategy, I just think poor people understand one guy is calling them lazy freeloaders the other guy is saying everyone should have opportunity.

True or not that is the overreaching narrative
 

buckshot24

Diamond Member
Nov 3, 2009
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I don't think its a strategy, I just think poor people understand one guy is calling them lazy freeloaders the other guy is saying everyone should have opportunity.

True or not that is the overreaching narrative
I don't think that is the case at all but I won't argue against you.
 

buckshot24

Diamond Member
Nov 3, 2009
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better than 0 or less where we started in '09. Obama is a bad Janitor I guess, left a big pile of steaming shit and not cleaning it fast enough.

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Seriously though, people aren't going to be looking at charts when they decide on who to vote for. 1.5% growth is pathetic for a recovery. We aren't in recession and a slow recovery is better than recession so I guess you have that to hang your hat on but 1.5% growth isn't that far away from recession.
 

zinfamous

No Lifer
Jul 12, 2006
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By scoring big on the economy, gas prices, and Libya, Romney continued his victorious string of debate wins. He looked more presidential than Obama did and showed himself to be an articulate, capable, attractive, compassionate leader with sound ideas.

Obama came over as boorish and Biden-esque. He did not learn from his Vice President's mistakes. When a president gets into a bar room brawl, he loses his dignity and his aura, key assets for an incumbent. Romney was polite but firm. Obama seemed quarrelsome, frustrated, nasty, and cranky.

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randomrogue

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Jan 15, 2011
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I normally don't post in here and just read, but I'm curious this wasn't brought up yet:

Does anyone really know what Romney's "5 point plan" is yet? He keeps talking about it, but he never gets into the math and details as if we wouldn't understand it.

This is why I think he sounded like he was running for Student Body President. I was really expecting him to promise a vending machine in the quad at any moment.
 

openwheel

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Apr 30, 2012
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Seriously though, people aren't going to be looking at charts when they decide on who to vote for. 1.5% growth is pathetic for a recovery. We aren't in recession and a slow recovery is better than recession so I guess you have that to hang your hat on but 1.5% growth isn't that far away from recession.

There is a difference between miracle and recovery. People were claiming 3% GDP growth as great economy during George W, which is also "not far away" from 1.5 either.

Unfortunately our crisis was caused by the housing market, which is arguably the worst to recover from. Energy crisis may be another similar situation. Remember, this is the single biggest purchase of most people's lives. People actually expect our economy to "bounce" right back?
 

Jhhnn

IN MEMORIAM
Nov 11, 1999
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I normally don't post in here and just read, but I'm curious this wasn't brought up yet:

Does anyone really know what Romney's "5 point plan" is yet? He keeps talking about it, but he never gets into the math and details as if we wouldn't understand it.

It's the same plan that got us where we are today, the perpetual pitch of the Repubs-

http://www.nextnewdeal.net/rortybomb/romney-will-solve-crisis-exact-same-gop-plan-2008-2006-2004

It's the party of ideas, perpetually bad ideas that haven't changed since the 1920's... Same whore, different dress, different lipstick, with some botox to freshen her up...
 

Hulk

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Oct 9, 1999
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As usual for the last four years Obama said nothing and anything he did say was a lie. He's eff'd this country up worse than Carter and that's saying something.
A few months and he'll be gone at least...:)
 

lotus503

Diamond Member
Feb 12, 2005
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As usual for the last four years Obama said nothing and anything he did say was a lie. He's eff'd this country up worse than Carter and that's saying something.
A few months and he'll be gone at least...:)

Please hold your breath ;)