Who makes the best automatic transmission???

[MikeMike]

Originally posted by: iamwiz82

Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE

Originally posted by: jtvang125

That is exactly what is going to send it to an early death, smooth shifting is accomplished through excessive clutch slippage, thus shortening the traniies life.

I never knew there were clutches in automatic transmissions.

there arent, there is a torque convertor.

There are indeed clutches in automatic transmissions.

http://www.allpar.com/mopar/images/transmission-block-6.gif

my bad.

 

[goodoptics]

manual tranny ftw!

 

[Mr N8]

Originally posted by: franksta
Tremec

Do they make automatic trannys? I'd love to drive a Mustang with a Tremec 5-speed in it.

 

[snoopdoug1]

Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE

Originally posted by: AndrewChang

Originally posted by: crustyoldman
Hands down it's G.M.
...
Any and all Japanese vehicles have weak automatics

Just caught this and had to jump in here... I'm sorry, but are you kidding me? By far, Honda makes the best automatics. They've been considered the best for years; almost ever single review of a Honda automobile mentions their transmissions bein the best in the business.

As for GM makin the transmissions that go in everything, I think you mean Delphi, which is bankrupt and dragging GM down with it. I've never heard of any company burning to the ground, while making best products on the market. If that was the case, then GM and Delphi wouldn't be in the positions they are today. You may also note that Delphi now makes many of the components inside the lastest MB's, which are now widely considered some of the most unreliable vehicles on the road.

this is a fanboi people, that is all.

Definitely a fanboi. I've got a 1999 accord and the tranny went out at 70k, had to get it replaced. If their trannys are so good, why did they extend the tranny warrenty on the 2000-2002 accord models? I'd get you a link but it's not worth my time. Find it yourself I called and talked to honda about my car, becaues it was just out of the reach of the extended warrenty... They confirmed it was only for the 2000-2002 models...

 

[9748904947]

Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE

Originally posted by: iamwiz82

Originally posted by: AndrewChang

Originally posted by: crustyoldman
Hands down it's G.M.
...
Any and all Japanese vehicles have weak automatics

Just caught this and had to jump in here... I'm sorry, but are you kidding me? By far, Honda makes the best automatics. They've been considered the best for years; almost ever single review of a Honda automobile mentions their transmissions bein the best in the business.

As for GM makin the transmissions that go in everything, I think you mean Delphi, which is bankrupt and dragging GM down with it. I've never heard of any company burning to the ground, while making best products on the market. If that was the case, then GM and Delphi wouldn't be in the positions they are today. You may also note that Delphi now makes many of the components inside the lastest MB's, which are now widely considered some of the most unreliable vehicles on the road.

Yeah, TL transmissions are rock solid

hes a blind fanboi, and his post is hilarious.

GM's auto trannies were used in previous Rolls Royce's, BMW's, all of GM, and many other manufs. they are bullet proof, and down right solid.

Whoa there, easy boy. Sometimes the truth is hard to swallow. I ain't no fanboy, and if GM did in fact make the best transmissions, I'd bow down. But I'm under the impression that they don't, and truth seems to be in the numbers. Or more specifically, their 8.4 Billion Dollar loss last year.

I think I may have offended you by acknowledging GM's dire situation, but brushing me off by calling me a fanboy is not the solution.

 

[spidey07]

*cough*
Honda/Acura TL automatic transmission

*cough*

 

[MikeMike]

Originally posted by: AndrewChang

Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE

Originally posted by: iamwiz82

Originally posted by: AndrewChang

Originally posted by: crustyoldman
Hands down it's G.M.
...
Any and all Japanese vehicles have weak automatics

Just caught this and had to jump in here... I'm sorry, but are you kidding me? By far, Honda makes the best automatics. They've been considered the best for years; almost ever single review of a Honda automobile mentions their transmissions bein the best in the business.

As for GM makin the transmissions that go in everything, I think you mean Delphi, which is bankrupt and dragging GM down with it. I've never heard of any company burning to the ground, while making best products on the market. If that was the case, then GM and Delphi wouldn't be in the positions they are today. You may also note that Delphi now makes many of the components inside the lastest MB's, which are now widely considered some of the most unreliable vehicles on the road.

Yeah, TL transmissions are rock solid

hes a blind fanboi, and his post is hilarious.

GM's auto trannies were used in previous Rolls Royce's, BMW's, all of GM, and many other manufs. they are bullet proof, and down right solid.

Whoa there, easy boy. Sometimes the truth is hard to swallow. I ain't no fanboy, and if GM did in fact make the best transmissions, I'd bow down. But I'm under the impression that they don't, and truth seems to be in the numbers. Or more specifically, their 8.4 Billion Dollar loss last year.

I think I may have offended you by acknowledging GM's dire situation, but brushing me off by calling me a fanboy is not the solution.

go ask ANY and i mean ANY true car mechanic, or very knowledgable car person who makes the best auto trannys

Aisin (Toyo/Lexus/Others) and GM are the best. there are no two ways about it, they are bullet proof, reliable, and down right nice. the 4 speed hydramatic is insane.

their dire situation is from other things not transmissions.

 

[ElFenix]

Originally posted by: luckysnafu

Originally posted by: iamwiz82

Originally posted by: luckysnafu
I know for sure that Ford/Mercury makes some of the WORST ones. My gf's 97 sable had the trans go (and I mean blew apart internally to the point it could not be rebuilt properly) at 80k miles.

One car is definately representative of all Ford/Mercury models.

:roll:

The auto transmissions used in Sables and Taurus' in the late 90's have been known to have many problems and break prematurely. Ford changed the transmission in the early part of the 00's since they knew they cheaped out on the transmission.

the ones in the early 90s were famous for problems. i had two blow out on mine, and the transmission guy said that was one of 3 weak things with the car (the other being engine bolts, which i replaced 3 times, and A/C i think)

 

[Pacfanweb]

Best automatic of all time is the GM Turbo Hydramatic 400. There is really no logical debate against this.

If you talk about trannys today, then I'd go with the GM 4L80...that's basically a Turbo 400 with an electronic valve body and an overdrive.

 

[9748904947]

Originally posted by: Doug3737

Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE

Originally posted by: AndrewChang

Originally posted by: crustyoldman
Hands down it's G.M.
...
Any and all Japanese vehicles have weak automatics

Just caught this and had to jump in here... I'm sorry, but are you kidding me? By far, Honda makes the best automatics. They've been considered the best for years; almost ever single review of a Honda automobile mentions their transmissions bein the best in the business.

As for GM makin the transmissions that go in everything, I think you mean Delphi, which is bankrupt and dragging GM down with it. I've never heard of any company burning to the ground, while making best products on the market. If that was the case, then GM and Delphi wouldn't be in the positions they are today. You may also note that Delphi now makes many of the components inside the lastest MB's, which are now widely considered some of the most unreliable vehicles on the road.

this is a fanboi people, that is all.

Definitely a fanboi. I've got a 1999 accord and the tranny went out at 70k, had to get it replaced. If their trannys are so good, why did they extend the tranny warrenty on the 2000-2002 accord models? I'd get you a link but it's not worth my time. Find it yourself I called and talked to honda about my car, becaues it was just out of the reach of the extended warrenty... They confirmed it was only for the 2000-2002 models...

Definitely... because I'm half asian?

Well then, I supose I've been mistaken, but my personal experiences with Honda/Acura have been superb. Aside from some of the other asian manufacturers, for the most part, superior engineering has been the hallmark of Honda and Toyota.

 

[MikeMike]

Originally posted by: AndrewChang

Originally posted by: Doug3737

Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE

Originally posted by: AndrewChang

Originally posted by: crustyoldman
Hands down it's G.M.
...
Any and all Japanese vehicles have weak automatics

Just caught this and had to jump in here... I'm sorry, but are you kidding me? By far, Honda makes the best automatics. They've been considered the best for years; almost ever single review of a Honda automobile mentions their transmissions bein the best in the business.

As for GM makin the transmissions that go in everything, I think you mean Delphi, which is bankrupt and dragging GM down with it. I've never heard of any company burning to the ground, while making best products on the market. If that was the case, then GM and Delphi wouldn't be in the positions they are today. You may also note that Delphi now makes many of the components inside the lastest MB's, which are now widely considered some of the most unreliable vehicles on the road.

this is a fanboi people, that is all.

Definitely a fanboi. I've got a 1999 accord and the tranny went out at 70k, had to get it replaced. If their trannys are so good, why did they extend the tranny warrenty on the 2000-2002 accord models? I'd get you a link but it's not worth my time. Find it yourself I called and talked to honda about my car, becaues it was just out of the reach of the extended warrenty... They confirmed it was only for the 2000-2002 models...

Definitely... because I'm half asian?

Well then, I supose I've been mistaken, but my personal experiences with Honda/Acura have been superb. Aside from some of the other asian manufacturers, for the most part, superior engineering has been the hallmark of Honda and Toyota.

go look at my toyota truck post, cough cough, quality frame metals werent though.

 

[Pacfanweb]

Originally posted by: AndrewChang
Whoa there, easy boy. Sometimes the truth is hard to swallow. I ain't no fanboy, and if GM did in fact make the best transmissions, I'd bow down. But I'm under the impression that they don't, and truth seems to be in the numbers. Or more specifically, their 8.4 Billion Dollar loss last year.

I think I may have offended you by acknowledging GM's dire situation, but brushing me off by calling me a fanboy is not the solution.

Doesn't offend me, but GM's bad financial shape is in no way caused by the quality of their transmissions.

He was right, GM trannys were used in Rolls, Jags, Jeeps, you name it.

The GM Turbo 400 is unmatched in reliability. Simply the best auto tranny ever made.

 

[DougK62]

Originally posted by: AndrewChang

Originally posted by: crustyoldman
Hands down it's G.M.
...
Any and all Japanese vehicles have weak automatics

Just caught this and had to jump in here... I'm sorry, but are you kidding me? By far, Honda makes the best automatics. They've been considered the best for years; almost ever single review of a Honda automobile mentions their transmissions bein the best in the business.

As for GM makin the transmissions that go in everything, I think you mean Delphi, which is bankrupt and dragging GM down with it. I've never heard of any company burning to the ground, while making best products on the market. If that was the case, then GM and Delphi wouldn't be in the positions they are today. You may also note that Delphi now makes many of the components inside the lastest MB's, which are now widely considered some of the most unreliable vehicles on the road.

hahahahahah

You're aware that GM has helped Honda with their auto transmissions, right?

 

[ElFenix]

Originally posted by: AndrewChang

Definitely... because I'm half asian?

Well then, I supose I've been mistaken, but my personal experiences with Honda/Acura have been superb. Aside from some of the other asian manufacturers, for the most part, superior engineering has been the hallmark of Honda and Toyota.

your personal experiences don't mean sh!t compared to actual numbers. and the actual numbers say that honda has been having problems with their automatic transmissions and GM has not.

don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.

 

[alien42]

Originally posted by: AndrewChang

Originally posted by: crustyoldman
Hands down it's G.M.
...
Any and all Japanese vehicles have weak automatics

Just caught this and had to jump in here... I'm sorry, but are you kidding me? By far, Honda makes the best automatics. They've been considered the best for years; almost ever single review of a Honda automobile mentions their transmissions bein the best in the business.

As for GM makin the transmissions that go in everything, I think you mean Delphi, which is bankrupt and dragging GM down with it. I've never heard of any company burning to the ground, while making best products on the market. If that was the case, then GM and Delphi wouldn't be in the positions they are today. You may also note that Delphi now makes many of the components inside the lastest MB's, which are now widely considered some of the most unreliable vehicles on the road.

unfortunately you are wrong. 97 to 2000 honda auto transmissions are terrible. i just replaced my 98 prelude tranny with 90k miles last month. it is a known issue with the autos for that group of years.

 

[Pacfanweb]

Originally posted by: AndrewChang

Originally posted by: Doug3737

Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE

Originally posted by: AndrewChang

Originally posted by: crustyoldman
Hands down it's G.M.
...
Any and all Japanese vehicles have weak automatics

Just caught this and had to jump in here... I'm sorry, but are you kidding me? By far, Honda makes the best automatics. They've been considered the best for years; almost ever single review of a Honda automobile mentions their transmissions bein the best in the business.

As for GM makin the transmissions that go in everything, I think you mean Delphi, which is bankrupt and dragging GM down with it. I've never heard of any company burning to the ground, while making best products on the market. If that was the case, then GM and Delphi wouldn't be in the positions they are today. You may also note that Delphi now makes many of the components inside the lastest MB's, which are now widely considered some of the most unreliable vehicles on the road.

this is a fanboi people, that is all.

Definitely a fanboi. I've got a 1999 accord and the tranny went out at 70k, had to get it replaced. If their trannys are so good, why did they extend the tranny warrenty on the 2000-2002 accord models? I'd get you a link but it's not worth my time. Find it yourself I called and talked to honda about my car, becaues it was just out of the reach of the extended warrenty... They confirmed it was only for the 2000-2002 models...

Definitely... because I'm half asian?

Well then, I supose I've been mistaken, but my personal experiences with Honda/Acura have been superb. Aside from some of the other asian manufacturers, for the most part, superior engineering has been the hallmark of Honda and Toyota.

Maybe for the most part, but that is not the case anymore. And never was with their transmissions.
The weak link on ANY FWD car is the tranny, I don't care who makes it.

And the reputation that Honda and Toyota has for reliability is partially deserved, and partially myth.
They were certainly much better in the 80's and early 90's. Since then, it's been a toss-up.
They have been going steadily downhill....just look at their amounts of TSB's and recalls and how they've increased in recent years.

 

[RegaPlanet]

Has to be either GM's 4L80e or possibly even the old 2 spd powerglide if we're talking stock form from the manufacturer of a car maker. No sense bringing any Jap scrap into this debate as none of their transmissions have near the same power handling capabilities. Lotus engineers got quite a bit of press for handling the Bugattis Veyron powerplant but I'm not sure what the company has to offer as a regular auto tranny if anything?

 

[ViperSSD]

Best Transmissions By Far : GM & Aisin

 

[Rogeee]

This is why I do not care to post here a lot on vehicle issues, the ignorance here is absolutely incredible.
Just to let you people know, I have been a Master Technician for all my life (going on 30 years, please listen to education and experiance).
Believe what you want to, but I know the facts, Japanese transmissions have always been weak.

I have worked in the past for every Japanese manufacturer, they do not know how to make a robust automatic transmission, as for manuals, well that's a different story altogether.

That is all I have to say, no more comments from me.

 

[Vette73]

Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE

Originally posted by: AndrewChang

Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE

Originally posted by: iamwiz82

Originally posted by: AndrewChang

Originally posted by: crustyoldman
Hands down it's G.M.
...
Any and all Japanese vehicles have weak automatics

Just caught this and had to jump in here... I'm sorry, but are you kidding me? By far, Honda makes the best automatics. They've been considered the best for years; almost ever single review of a Honda automobile mentions their transmissions bein the best in the business.

As for GM makin the transmissions that go in everything, I think you mean Delphi, which is bankrupt and dragging GM down with it. I've never heard of any company burning to the ground, while making best products on the market. If that was the case, then GM and Delphi wouldn't be in the positions they are today. You may also note that Delphi now makes many of the components inside the lastest MB's, which are now widely considered some of the most unreliable vehicles on the road.

Yeah, TL transmissions are rock solid

hes a blind fanboi, and his post is hilarious.

GM's auto trannies were used in previous Rolls Royce's, BMW's, all of GM, and many other manufs. they are bullet proof, and down right solid.

Whoa there, easy boy. Sometimes the truth is hard to swallow. I ain't no fanboy, and if GM did in fact make the best transmissions, I'd bow down. But I'm under the impression that they don't, and truth seems to be in the numbers. Or more specifically, their 8.4 Billion Dollar loss last year.

I think I may have offended you by acknowledging GM's dire situation, but brushing me off by calling me a fanboy is not the solution.

go ask ANY and i mean ANY true car mechanic, or very knowledgable car person who makes the best auto trannys

Aisin (Toyo/Lexus/Others) and GM are the best. there are no two ways about it, they are bullet proof, reliable, and down right nice. the 4 speed hydramatic is insane.

their dire situation is from other things not transmissions.

I, an autotech, will back that up. Hondas specialty is small and efficient engines. Honda though makes some of the, if not the most, worst tran?s out there. GM has been the leader in Trans tech for a long time. From the th350/400 days to their Allison trans today. As others have said they have had their trans in MANY other makers cars/trucks. If they were that bad they would have been pulled a long time ago.

Now for a particular car, the late 80?s to early 90?s, the ford Taurus (Sable) had juts a pile of problems. They even made Honda look good. It was even rumored they put some reman?s in ?new? cars as they had so many rebuilts in stock. The trans even came with a sticker to not open the trans unless you called the company that made then which I think was in Canada.

 

[Demon-Xanth]

Two things kill a transmission:
Abuse.
Torque.

Jeep once put a Fiat (iirc) transmission in the Wrangler, but although it has good bearings and such that made it have excellent reliability in sports cars, the torque from the 4.2 I-6 would chew them up and spit them out. Alot of people would swap in transmissions such as the AX15 or various NV gearboxes. Japanese transmissions have seemed reliable for a long time because they DON'T have torque. With increasing HP and torque numbers comes increasing amounts of failures. Honda won't go to a V8 because then they'll have to do serious transmission upgrades. If you look around, you'll notice that most transmissions are rated in LBft, not HP.

Example:
NV3500: rated for 325LBft (which is why it was never put behind the 5.9 which pushed 335-345LBft)
T56: 400LBft-600LBft (depending on the configuration)

 

[9748904947]

Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE

Originally posted by: AndrewChang

Originally posted by: Doug3737

Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE

Originally posted by: AndrewChang

Originally posted by: crustyoldman
Hands down it's G.M.
...
Any and all Japanese vehicles have weak automatics

Just caught this and had to jump in here... I'm sorry, but are you kidding me? By far, Honda makes the best automatics. They've been considered the best for years; almost ever single review of a Honda automobile mentions their transmissions bein the best in the business.

As for GM makin the transmissions that go in everything, I think you mean Delphi, which is bankrupt and dragging GM down with it. I've never heard of any company burning to the ground, while making best products on the market. If that was the case, then GM and Delphi wouldn't be in the positions they are today. You may also note that Delphi now makes many of the components inside the lastest MB's, which are now widely considered some of the most unreliable vehicles on the road.

this is a fanboi people, that is all.

Definitely a fanboi. I've got a 1999 accord and the tranny went out at 70k, had to get it replaced. If their trannys are so good, why did they extend the tranny warrenty on the 2000-2002 accord models? I'd get you a link but it's not worth my time. Find it yourself I called and talked to honda about my car, becaues it was just out of the reach of the extended warrenty... They confirmed it was only for the 2000-2002 models...

Definitely... because I'm half asian?

Well then, I supose I've been mistaken, but my personal experiences with Honda/Acura have been superb. Aside from some of the other asian manufacturers, for the most part, superior engineering has been the hallmark of Honda and Toyota.

go look at my toyota truck post, cough cough, quality frame metals werent though.

I'm sorry about your troubles with your Toyota truck, and I'm not really interested in getting into some sort of argument about this, so I'll just take your word for it. I supose my orginal post was tainted with some bias towards Honda, but wow... simmer down gentlemen.

With the exception of the occasional Ford, I have driven imports all my life, and up until this point I had never heard anyone tout the quality of a GM transmission. Keeping in mind, many of my close friends are or were owners of domestic automobiles. In fact, I've only heard the opposite.

 

[MikeMike]

Originally posted by: AndrewChang

Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE

Originally posted by: AndrewChang

Originally posted by: Doug3737

Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE

Originally posted by: AndrewChang

Originally posted by: crustyoldman
Hands down it's G.M.
...
Any and all Japanese vehicles have weak automatics

Just caught this and had to jump in here... I'm sorry, but are you kidding me? By far, Honda makes the best automatics. They've been considered the best for years; almost ever single review of a Honda automobile mentions their transmissions bein the best in the business.

As for GM makin the transmissions that go in everything, I think you mean Delphi, which is bankrupt and dragging GM down with it. I've never heard of any company burning to the ground, while making best products on the market. If that was the case, then GM and Delphi wouldn't be in the positions they are today. You may also note that Delphi now makes many of the components inside the lastest MB's, which are now widely considered some of the most unreliable vehicles on the road.

this is a fanboi people, that is all.

Definitely a fanboi. I've got a 1999 accord and the tranny went out at 70k, had to get it replaced. If their trannys are so good, why did they extend the tranny warrenty on the 2000-2002 accord models? I'd get you a link but it's not worth my time. Find it yourself I called and talked to honda about my car, becaues it was just out of the reach of the extended warrenty... They confirmed it was only for the 2000-2002 models...

Definitely... because I'm half asian?

Well then, I supose I've been mistaken, but my personal experiences with Honda/Acura have been superb. Aside from some of the other asian manufacturers, for the most part, superior engineering has been the hallmark of Honda and Toyota.

go look at my toyota truck post, cough cough, quality frame metals werent though.

I'm sorry about your troubles with your Toyota truck, and I'm not really interested in getting into some sort of argument about this, so I'll just take your word for it. I supose my orginal post was tainted with some bias towards Honda, but wow... simmer down gentlemen.

With the exception of the occasional Ford, I have driven imports all my life, and up until this point I had never heard anyone tout the quality of a GM transmission. Keeping in mind, many of my close friends are or were owners of domestic automobiles. In fact, I've only heard the opposite.

not my truck, ive never owned a foreign car (other than my saab).

 

[FoBoT]

i bought a 1990 Mazda Protoge in November 1989

it now has 194,000 miles and the transmission works the same as the day we bought it. the transmission fluid/filter have never been touched that i recall.

i am pleased with the quality of this car

 

[rufruf44]

Originally posted by: AndrewChang

Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE

Originally posted by: AndrewChang

Originally posted by: Doug3737

Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE

Originally posted by: AndrewChang

Originally posted by: crustyoldman
Hands down it's G.M.
...
Any and all Japanese vehicles have weak automatics

Just caught this and had to jump in here... I'm sorry, but are you kidding me? By far, Honda makes the best automatics. They've been considered the best for years; almost ever single review of a Honda automobile mentions their transmissions bein the best in the business.

As for GM makin the transmissions that go in everything, I think you mean Delphi, which is bankrupt and dragging GM down with it. I've never heard of any company burning to the ground, while making best products on the market. If that was the case, then GM and Delphi wouldn't be in the positions they are today. You may also note that Delphi now makes many of the components inside the lastest MB's, which are now widely considered some of the most unreliable vehicles on the road.

this is a fanboi people, that is all.

Definitely a fanboi. I've got a 1999 accord and the tranny went out at 70k, had to get it replaced. If their trannys are so good, why did they extend the tranny warrenty on the 2000-2002 accord models? I'd get you a link but it's not worth my time. Find it yourself I called and talked to honda about my car, becaues it was just out of the reach of the extended warrenty... They confirmed it was only for the 2000-2002 models...

Definitely... because I'm half asian?

Well then, I supose I've been mistaken, but my personal experiences with Honda/Acura have been superb. Aside from some of the other asian manufacturers, for the most part, superior engineering has been the hallmark of Honda and Toyota.

go look at my toyota truck post, cough cough, quality frame metals werent though.

I'm sorry about your troubles with your Toyota truck, and I'm not really interested in getting into some sort of argument about this, so I'll just take your word for it. I supose my orginal post was tainted with some bias towards Honda, but wow... simmer down gentlemen.

With the exception of the occasional Ford, I have driven imports all my life, and up until this point I had never heard anyone tout the quality of a GM transmission. Keeping in mind, many of my close friends are or were owners of domestic automobiles. In fact, I've only heard the opposite.

Toyota/Aisin = yep
GM = yep

Honda?? You're not arround when all of those last generation Accord V6 tranny self destruct, weren't you?

Honda makes decent tranny, but nowhere near bulletproof.