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guyver01

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Originally posted by: Gothgar
Great food, maybe not authentic, but authentic Chinese food blows monkey balls

lol..

you might actually get monkey balls if you order real chinese food.

if PF Changs is "fake chinese food" .. i'll take fake over real anyday.

i doubt most people would know the difference between szechuan, mandarin, hunan, and cantonese anyway

American Chinese cooking typically caters to Western tastes, and differs significantly from the cuisine of China.






 

oogabooga

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Jan 14, 2003
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The food okay, it just is kinda expensive. I know a lot of people who like eating there, but personally it seems kinda pricey for what you get.
 

Leros

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Originally posted by: Gothgar
Great food, maybe not authentic, but authentic Chinese food blows monkey balls

Meh, they both have their merits.

Americanized Chinese food isn't the best, but its cheap and not bad. I love authentic Chinese food, but I'll still eat the americanized stuff every now and then. I'm white btw.

I hate how people say things like "oh, this is terrible, its not authentic at all". People need to realize that Americanized Chinese food is a different genre than authentic Chinese food. Don't compare them.
 

Vinny N

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It's pretty overrated IMO. Not necessarily bad, but not as amazing as people make it out to be. Cheesecake Factory > PF Changs by orders of magnitude. I'm talking about quality as they obviously make rather different kinds of food.

And while some things are typically ATOT:
body-building,
rags to riches,
dating supermodels,
and I can't think of the other ones,
alternator lol?

I don't think "hating on PF Chang's" is something ATOTish nor does it mean that PF Changs is automaticaly super secretly an awesome place.
 

zerocool84

Lifer
Nov 11, 2004
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Originally posted by: Vinny N
It's pretty overrated IMO. Not necessarily bad, but not as amazing as people make it out to be. Cheesecake Factory > PF Changs by orders of magnitude. I'm talking about quality as they obviously make rather different kinds of food.

And while some things are typically ATOT:
body-building,
rags to riches,
dating supermodels,
and I can't think of the other ones,
alternator lol?
hating on non-microbrew beer
hating on every national fast food joint


I don't think "hating on PF Chang's" is something ATOTish nor does it mean that PF Changs is automaticaly super secretly an awesome place.

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guyver01

Lifer
Sep 25, 2000
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Originally posted by: zerocool84
Originally posted by: Vinny N
It's pretty overrated IMO. Not necessarily bad, but not as amazing as people make it out to be. Cheesecake Factory > PF Changs by orders of magnitude. I'm talking about quality as they obviously make rather different kinds of food.

And while some things are typically ATOT:
body-building,
rags to riches,
dating supermodels,
and I can't think of the other ones,
alternator lol?
hating on non-microbrew beer
hating on every national fast food joint
hating on anything except bloody rare steaks


I don't think "hating on PF Chang's" is something ATOTish nor does it mean that PF Changs is automaticaly super secretly an awesome place.

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zerocool84

Lifer
Nov 11, 2004
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Originally posted by: guyver01
Originally posted by: zerocool84
Originally posted by: Vinny N
It's pretty overrated IMO. Not necessarily bad, but not as amazing as people make it out to be. Cheesecake Factory > PF Changs by orders of magnitude. I'm talking about quality as they obviously make rather different kinds of food.

And while some things are typically ATOT:
body-building,
rags to riches,
dating supermodels,
and I can't think of the other ones,
alternator lol?
hating on non-microbrew beer
hating on every national fast food joint
hating on anything except bloody rare steaks


I don't think "hating on PF Chang's" is something ATOTish nor does it mean that PF Changs is automaticaly super secretly an awesome place.

added some

added one more

:thumbsup:
 

Fingolfin269

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Feb 28, 2003
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Originally posted by: Tiamat
Originally posted by: Fingolfin269
Originally posted by: Tiamat

Mongolian beef was decent. Also the Zodiac Noodles (2 years ago Chinese New Year) were good. Notwithstanding the Singapore street noodles, everything else I had was not good. I've been about 10 times.

Just added the link to Pei Wei. Check that out if you've never heard of it. Owned by PF Chang's and is basically considered PF Chang's Take-Out. Much cheaper but then again it's the same food (for the most part) so I guess that still doesn't make it 'good' for ya. ;)

I've never been concerned with food that is "good" for me :p

I eat whatever the heck I wanna eat :p. PF Chang's is when its restaurant roulette time, that is, the time where you wanna go out to eat with buddies, but nobody has any ideas where to go and nobody wants to try someplace new, and cheesecake factory is busy (all the time).

OOps, I was half asleep when I wrote that and it didn't come out right. I meant, if PF Chang's isn't good (to you!) then I doubt you would like Pei Wei. It's more of the same just cheaper.

Cheesecake Factory :thumbsup:
 

Fritzo

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Jan 3, 2001
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My wife won't go there after getting salmonella from their shrimp and watermelon salad.

Also, that's the place I told my 9 year old I'd give $5 if he tasted the wasabi. The little dork took A WHOLE SPOON FULL, stuck it in his mouth, and the vapors when up his nose, causing him to throw up.

It was a delightful evening.
 

skace

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Jan 23, 2001
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Originally posted by: Fritzo
My wife won't go there after getting salmonella from their shrimp and watermelon salad.

Also, that's the place I told my 9 year old I'd give $5 if he tasted the wasabi. The little dork took A WHOLE SPOON FULL, stuck it in his mouth, and the vapors when up his nose, causing him to throw up.

It was a delightful evening.

He got 5 bucks, you got to clean up vomit. Score one for the anklebiter.
 

SP33Demon

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Jun 22, 2001
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So maybe I exaggerate the size of my glass of Hunan Frost Haterade, but let?s be realistic here. The food at PF Chang?s is clearly intended for the Paul Flemings of the world rather than the Changs. It is food that is made ?Chinese? with sodium-saturated, sugar-laden food drowning in clear, gelatinous, cornstarch-thickened sauces that would have Dr. Atkins turning over in his grave. There?s nothing wrong with that generic brand of ?Chinese? food, as Panda Express serves the same thing, and it would not be totally out of character for me to pick up a small takeout box of their stirfried vegetable oil with eggplant from their kiosk when I?m at Pavilions, but that?s Panda Express. It?s supposed to be scary. PF Chang?s food is the same scary thing, but it costs a lot more because they serve it on china and you have to leave a tip. PF Chang?s is Panda Express in an H&M wrapdress, Michael Kors knock-offs, and a drugstore version of the Juicy Tube. A little more dressed up, but still a cheap whore.

The food is not miserable, for it most certainly is edible ? that is, edible if you haven?t consumed anything but tap water in the last eleven days and you don?t mind the after-effects of sodium overdose that are inevitable even after eating something as innocuous as pert little three-pointed vegetable dumplings that almost look as authentic as Westside dimsum in a stainless steel steamer, except that they were garnished with Christmas ornaments.

Every fluid-producing gland in your body will be sucked so dry that your contact lenses will permanently adhere to the insides of your eyelids as if you slept in the them for three night in a row. You want to think that the broth of a very bland wonton soup is hydrating, but it will only cause your face to balloon to volumes that will make Giada look *whoa* proportionate (?!). Your lower GI tract will re-absorb every last molecule of aych-two-oh distending your gut to a third world belly. That silky soft tofu in what appears to be mapo tofu but is actually some strange concoction of the mad scientist back in the ?kitchen? will constipate you harder than sandpaper-wrapped bricks through a drinking straw, and yet, alternating with fire-rrhea from prescription dosages of hot sauce you were forced to use to numb the pain of blandness. Fluid retention in your muscles and joints will transform your once slender, lithe blogging fingers into tiny tugid balloons that are so stiff that you can?t type anything but asdf all at once until four days later.

Why? Why must you hide your Panda Express behind a very heavy veil of NaCl?? Why, PF, why?!?!

If you think the sodium bloat is bad, let?s not even talk about the accompanying cheap hangover from choking down every bite of with two gulps of some appropriately Asian themed mango-rin lychee martini.

Really, though, I have to hand it to PF for accomplishing what I have to assume was the goal ? making Chinese food accessible to tourists who visit ?big cities? like LA, spend the day at 3rd Street Promenade shopping at Gap and Banana Republic, and then eschew Houston?s for a more ?ethnic LA? experince?at PF Chang?s.

I share her sentiments.
 

sao123

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May 27, 2002
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Its like a Red Lobster that serves Chinese food.
Somewhat pricey, larger portions, bar, sitdown atmosphere, etc
 

Insomniator

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Originally posted by: sao123
Its like a Red Lobster that serves Chinese food.
Somewhat pricey, larger portions, bar, sitdown atmosphere, etc

yes!

you know how red lobster is an absolute joke for seafood? this place is the same thing except with chinese take out food

I went there once and paid like 50 bucks for two crappy chinese food dishes that were about as good as the 5 Dollar combination platter special place near my dorm at rutgers.

The restaurant was really nice but the food was just laughable, and I'm not trying to compare it to authentic anything; just your *below average* chinese take out place.

Kids would probably love it though, all overblown flavors and crap. Kinda tastes like chinese food met friendlys.
 

JulesMaximus

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I've been there many times and have never had a bad meal there. Food is good, appetizers are good, drinks are good. What's not to like?
 

JulesMaximus

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Originally posted by: Vinny N
It's pretty overrated IMO. Not necessarily bad, but not as amazing as people make it out to be. Cheesecake Factory > PF Changs by orders of magnitude. I'm talking about quality as they obviously make rather different kinds of food.

And while some things are typically ATOT:
body-building,
rags to riches,
dating supermodels,
and I can't think of the other ones,
alternator lol?

I don't think "hating on PF Chang's" is something ATOTish nor does it mean that PF Changs is automaticaly super secretly an awesome place.

You forgot rice cookers. Where would ATOTers be without their ridiculously expensive rice cookers?
 

SP33Demon

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Jun 22, 2001
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Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
I've been there many times and have never had a bad meal there. Food is good, appetizers are good, drinks are good. What's not to like?

You know that some of their soups top the restaurant sodium lists as the most of any dish in America, right?

 

Gibson486

Lifer
Aug 9, 2000
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PF Chang is essentially the most americanized chinese food there is. I wouldn't compare it to chinese mall food, however. PF chang is more robust than your chinese mall food. They actually add more american flavor through their spices, where as chines mall food mostly uses salt, oil, starch, and soy sauce an djust end it at that. They are, essentially, more upscale.

Is PF Changs good? I have only been there once. It's alright. I have more problem calling it a bistro because it's not. Calling it a chinese restaruant? Maybe a stretch, but to the non chinese out there (or anyone not familair with real chinese cuisine), it's pretty much chinese.

The funny thing is in Boston. PF chang's is lterally 1 block away from chinatown. That place is still packed all the time. You have to look at their clientel, however....it's people who have money to spend that never had something more chinese than General Gau's chicken.
 

SP33Demon

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Jun 22, 2001
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And a soup bowl has the dubious honor of being the Saltiest Food in America. It?s P.F. Chang?s Hot and Sour Soup Bowl with (brace yourself) 6,878 mg sodium. That?s almost triple the daily amount needed and is the sodium equivalent of 208 saltine crackers. To quote Eat This, Not That:

How can one bowl of soup come with so much sodium? P.F. Chang?s is one of the worst restaurants when it comes to sodium (second to Chili?s), so your best bet is to avoid the soups altogether. Wonton, Egg Drop, and Hot and Sour all come loaded with thousands of miligrams of it. And since even the downsized cups come with over 1,000 mg of sodium, a better choice for a heart-healthy side is to stick to the vegetables or the steamed brown rice.


They recommend instead the Small Spinach Stir-Fried with Garlic at 448 mg sodium and 90 calories.
Link

This has been a Public Service Announcement, because I care about my fellow ATOTer's health. ;)
 

JulesMaximus

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Originally posted by: SP33Demon
Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
I've been there many times and have never had a bad meal there. Food is good, appetizers are good, drinks are good. What's not to like?

You know that some of their soups top the restaurant sodium lists as the most of any dish in America, right?

I haven't had their soups. Besides, I thought ATOT didn't care about sodium...being that one bag of Top Ramen noodles contains nearly 40% of the recommended daily allowance of sodium.
 

surfsatwerk

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You'll like PFC if you think Wonder bread is the pinnacle of the baking world. I hate how this country takes wonderful food and dumps sugar, salt, and processed fats into a perfectly good dish and ruins it.
 

surfsatwerk

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Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Originally posted by: SP33Demon
Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
I've been there many times and have never had a bad meal there. Food is good, appetizers are good, drinks are good. What's not to like?

You know that some of their soups top the restaurant sodium lists as the most of any dish in America, right?

I haven't had their soups. Besides, I thought ATOT didn't care about sodium...being that one bag of Top Ramen noodles contains nearly 40% of the recommended daily allowance of sodium.

The bag in front of me says 28%, but it's Sapporo Ichiban not Tap Ramen.
 

SP33Demon

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Jun 22, 2001
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Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Originally posted by: SP33Demon
Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
I've been there many times and have never had a bad meal there. Food is good, appetizers are good, drinks are good. What's not to like?

You know that some of their soups top the restaurant sodium lists as the most of any dish in America, right?

I haven't had their soups. Besides, I thought ATOT didn't care about sodium...being that one bag of Top Ramen noodles contains nearly 40% of the recommended daily allowance of sodium.

Read my above post. ;)

 

JulesMaximus

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Originally posted by: SP33Demon
Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Originally posted by: SP33Demon
Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
I've been there many times and have never had a bad meal there. Food is good, appetizers are good, drinks are good. What's not to like?

You know that some of their soups top the restaurant sodium lists as the most of any dish in America, right?

I haven't had their soups. Besides, I thought ATOT didn't care about sodium...being that one bag of Top Ramen noodles contains nearly 40% of the recommended daily allowance of sodium.

Read my above post. ;)

Like I said, I haven't had their soups. I like their Orange Peel Shrimp and Lemon Scallops which aren't that bad for you actually.
 

SP33Demon

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Jun 22, 2001
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Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Like I said, I haven't had their soups. I like their Spicy Shrimp and Lemon Scallops which aren't that bad for you actually.

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If you got the Shrimp with Lobster sauce you're fcked (4,700mg). If you got any of the noodles (Double Pan Fried - 1945, Lo Mein - 1415) or Fried Rice (1251) you're almost fcked. The others (Shanghai, Dynamite, and Mandarin) all have at least 1100mg's which is ok but leaves you only 400-900 left for the day. Cantonese shrimp has 1700 which is fcked.

The lemon scallops are fine.

Look at their beef. 5 of 6 are around 2000 mg's. The only safe one is Orange Peel Beef (700).

So basically stay away from their soups, beefs, noodles, fried rice, any lunch bowl, anything marinated, and you'll have a nice healthy meal.