who has the right of way?

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gorobei

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california vehicle code FWIW: (paraphrasing)
vehicle entering/turning on to a roadway must yield right of way to a vehicle already traveling on said roadway and may turn only when safe(barring traffic control devices).

Applies to T-junctions(three way intersections) which would include a roundabout. All this generally assumes everyone is driving safe/legal speeds and obeying traffic light/signs. Also if there are no stop or yield signs, blue still has to wait for a safe opening in traffic.

(as long as you weren't speeding) if there wasn't enough room/distance/time for blue to accelerate to traffic speed and merge in, then he was supposed to yield. If he entered and you had to brake in order to avoid hitting his bumper, then he violated your right of way. If there was a collision, the officer would cite blue for unsafe turn.



 

Jack Ryan

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Originally posted by: mugs
Red car has right of way UNLESS there is a yield sign in the middle of the circle (yes, it happens)

True true. An example is the circle where routes 70 and 73 meet in Marlton, NJ. The "circling" peeps have to yield (they dont though) to the people entering the circle. Even though the circle itself is one lane, people make it two. This results in TWO lanes merging with TWO lanes. Fun for all.

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sswingle

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Originally posted by: DLeRium
So if you drove in circles until you ran out of gas, you should have right of way all the way through right? Someone's gonna enter the circle sooner or later and hit you.

Uhm...there is room in the circle for more than one car...
 

Tiamat

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this is covered in the drivers manual. People in the traffic circle have right of way over people out of circle. Exception is if the persons out of the circle are emergency vehicles.
 

FoBoT

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its a traffic circle

many 'americans' get confused by traffic circles

the peoples already in the circle always have the right of way
 

miri

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Originally posted by: Aimster
I was the red car.

Blue car was driving really fast to enter the circle and I wasn't going to slow down for him to do it. He put down his window and was yelling things at me.
He was really sure that he had the right of way so I had to ask.

This was on campus.

U goto VCU? There is a circle similar to that in Richmond.

 

Tweak155

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Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: Auryg
What about a stop light intersection where there is no "left turn yield to oncoming traffic sign?" There's one here where I live now and I have no idea.

dear lord I hope you're kidding. Please tell me you're kidding.

To put it simply - "if by changing your line you put your line in the path of somebody elses, you yield to them". ESPECIALLY when turning left, you never have right of way unless you have a green arrow.

Even on a green arrow for a left turner and a red light for oncoming traffic - the turner must yield. This seems to be a hard concept for many people to understand.

Everyone needs to keep in mind, traffic laws/lights/signs are ALL meant for safety. Logically we would want 2 people to stop to avoid an accident even though only 1 should have to. Keeping this in mind, laws are set up to protect BOTH parties.

Therefore, the person approaching the red light should stop, and the person making the left turn should yield even if the person is going through a red light. You will (or at least should) get a ticket for causing an accident while making a left turn through a green arrow and colliding with an oncoming vehicle that has gone through a red light.

Who had the "right of way" - The person making the left turn. But, the person still failed to yield to oncoming traffic which is required FOR ALL TURNS.
 

Tweak155

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Originally posted by: gingerstewart55
Originally posted by: Auryg
What about a stop light intersection where there is no "left turn yield to oncoming traffic sign?" There's one here where I live now and I have no idea.

A left turn at a traffic light always yields to oncoming traffic, unless you have an arrow specific to you making your left turn. If the traffic light is green to you and the oncoming traffic, left turn always yields.....it's a traffic rule....look it up in your driver's manual. I'm sure you still have one around from when you got your license last week.

Wrong. A person turning ALWAYS yields. When did you get your license?
 

Xavier434

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Red had the right away, but just remember that in an accident the odds of you not having to pay a dime are slim to none. This is especially true when you consider how other parts of your car were damaged in an accident but still functional temporarily and were not replaced for that reason (no one identified the damage). It will be you who floats the bill when that part(s) breaks a few months later.

In short, even if you have the right away, be cautious and slow down for assholes like that if it means you may potentially avoid an accident. It's worth it.
 

Tweak155

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And to answer the OP original question (even though it has been answered plenty of times) - The guy in the roundabout has the right of way.
 

Tweak155

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Originally posted by: Xavier434
Red had the right away, but just remember that in an accident the odds of you not having to pay a dime are slim to none. This is especially true when you consider how other parts of your car were damaged in an accident but still functional temporarily and were not replaced for that reason (no one identified the damage). It will be you who floats the bill when that part(s) breaks a few months later.

In short, even if you have the right away, be cautious and slow down for assholes like that if it means you may potentially avoid an accident. It's worth it.

QFT brother.
 

effowe

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What I hate is when a person is turning left onto a street at the roundabout, and they go around it clockwise. I know there aren't always signs signifying you to go counter-clockwise, but I was always told if I wanted to turn left, I had to go around the circle.
 

beat mania

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Originally posted by: Tweak155
Originally posted by: gingerstewart55
Originally posted by: Auryg
What about a stop light intersection where there is no "left turn yield to oncoming traffic sign?" There's one here where I live now and I have no idea.

A left turn at a traffic light always yields to oncoming traffic, unless you have an arrow specific to you making your left turn. If the traffic light is green to you and the oncoming traffic, left turn always yields.....it's a traffic rule....look it up in your driver's manual. I'm sure you still have one around from when you got your license last week.

Wrong. A person turning ALWAYS yields. When did you get your license?

From his response, probably America.

OMG there's an arrow on the ground pointing to where I'm heading, I have right of way! w00t!
 

pontifex

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omg...that roundabout looks fucking insane. how the hell does anyone know what to do? lol
 

KLin

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Originally posted by: pontifex
omg...that roundabout looks fucking insane. how the hell does anyone know what to do? lol

That's a normal roundabout.
 

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Originally posted by: ironwing
Roundabouts are awesome. Other drivers suck.

Which is why roundabouts SUCK!

 

Perknose

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Originally posted by: beat mania
Originally posted by: Tweak155
Originally posted by: gingerstewart55
A left turn at a traffic light always yields to oncoming traffic, unless you have an arrow specific to you making your left turn. If the traffic light is green to you and the oncoming traffic, left turn always yields.....it's a traffic rule....look it up in your driver's manual. I'm sure you still have one around from when you got your license last week.

Wrong. A person turning ALWAYS yields. When did you get your license?

From his response, probably America.

OMG there's an arrow on the ground pointing to where I'm heading, I have right of way! w00t!

Tweak and beat are incorrect, and apparently in full ignorance of the common situation in America where the traffic light at an intersection has a left green arrow, which, when on, gives left turners the absolute right of way.


 

Tweak155

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Originally posted by: Perknose
Originally posted by: beat mania
Originally posted by: Tweak155
Originally posted by: gingerstewart55
A left turn at a traffic light always yields to oncoming traffic, unless you have an arrow specific to you making your left turn. If the traffic light is green to you and the oncoming traffic, left turn always yields.....it's a traffic rule....look it up in your driver's manual. I'm sure you still have one around from when you got your license last week.

Wrong. A person turning ALWAYS yields. When did you get your license?

From his response, probably America.

OMG there's an arrow on the ground pointing to where I'm heading, I have right of way! w00t!

Tweak and beat are incorrect, and apparently in full ignorance of the common situation in America where the traffic light at an intersection has a left green arrow, which, when on, gives left turners the absolute right of way.

You are full of ignorance as I never said the turner didn't have the right of way. I said they have to yield to oncoming traffic. Difference.

EDIT:

I also clarified this in a previous post.
 

Xavier434

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Originally posted by: Perknose
Originally posted by: beat mania
Originally posted by: Tweak155
Originally posted by: gingerstewart55
A left turn at a traffic light always yields to oncoming traffic, unless you have an arrow specific to you making your left turn. If the traffic light is green to you and the oncoming traffic, left turn always yields.....it's a traffic rule....look it up in your driver's manual. I'm sure you still have one around from when you got your license last week.

Wrong. A person turning ALWAYS yields. When did you get your license?

From his response, probably America.

OMG there's an arrow on the ground pointing to where I'm heading, I have right of way! w00t!

Tweak and beat are incorrect, and apparently in full ignorance of the common situation in America where the traffic light at an intersection has a left green arrow, which, when on, gives left turners the absolute right of way.

First, whenever there is a green arrow at an intersection to turn left then everyone else must yield to those who are turning left. The car that is turning does yield to anyone in that scenario. Most of the other cars will have a red light anyways.

Second, for the sake of this threads topic, you will never find left green arrows showing when you can get on a round about. Turning left on to a round about means you are going the wrong way. You can only turn right on to a round about which means you yield to incoming traffic.
 

crystal

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Originally posted by: Tweak155
Originally posted by: Perknose
Originally posted by: beat mania
Originally posted by: Tweak155
Originally posted by: gingerstewart55
A left turn at a traffic light always yields to oncoming traffic, unless you have an arrow specific to you making your left turn. If the traffic light is green to you and the oncoming traffic, left turn always yields.....it's a traffic rule....look it up in your driver's manual. I'm sure you still have one around from when you got your license last week.

Wrong. A person turning ALWAYS yields. When did you get your license?

From his response, probably America.

OMG there's an arrow on the ground pointing to where I'm heading, I have right of way! w00t!

Tweak and beat are incorrect, and apparently in full ignorance of the common situation in America where the traffic light at an intersection has a left green arrow, which, when on, gives left turners the absolute right of way.

You are full of ignorance as I never said the turner didn't have the right of way. I said they have to yield to oncoming traffic. Difference.

EDIT:

I also clarified this in a previous post.

Because your post don't make sense. When you have to yield - you give up your right of way. But then you said I have the right of way on the left arrow, why the hell should I give up my right of way to the other car which is illegally run the red light?
 

Perknose

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Originally posted by: Tweak155
Originally posted by: Perknose
Tweak and beat are incorrect, and apparently in full ignorance of the common situation in America where the traffic light at an intersection has a left green arrow, which, when on, gives left turners the absolute right of way.

You are full of ignorance as I never said the turner didn't have the right of way. I said they have to yield to oncoming traffic. Difference.

EDIT:

I also clarified this in a previous post.

My God, you are not only ignorant, but massively stupid and apparently unable to recognize your own non-sensical thought patterns.

If the turner has the right of way, THEN he doesn't have to yield, others MUST yield to him?

Damn, you're dumb. :roll: